when do you know you're in a bad game

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Gmanpoke

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Can you tell you're in a bad game after the first set?

This last weekend I was playing an old hustler named Driller. We were playing on a tight triple shimmed GC. Anyway, I guy I have never seen before started watching us. Apparently, Driller and him were old friends. After Driller and I quit, this stranger wanted to play. In the middle of the set in walks James Walden. James starts talking to the stranger during our match like they were old buds. In fact, James wanted to play the stranger one pocket and bet pretty high.

So, do you quit after the first set? Was Driller (the old hustler) in on this? Was James (another old hustler) in on this? Am I just too worried about someone making a move on me?

Steven
 
You werent being hustled. You were just around faster company than you are used to.
Depending on how your finances are, keep the bet small and play guys like that some. You can learn a lot if you know what you are looking at.
Chuck
 
Its that simple-you've doubted yourself already-

Do you have what it takes to play under pressure ?? you'll never know till ya try. Then go back to Practicing- if ya loose ? We have a younger guy around here - who placed in 2 Pro tournaments 12th at Seminole -Somewhere at NYC . But won a 1st and a 2nd bca,vnea Nationals singles. He believes in His brothers cues- Steve Morris Custom Cues. I saw the latest stainless steel Jointed cue in Production- Custom pred. shafts I started a Post about James look it up. az Forums Mark
 
Gmanpoke said:
Can you tell you're in a bad game after the first set?

This last weekend I was playing an old hustler named Driller. We were playing on a tight triple shimmed GC. Anyway, I guy I have never seen before started watching us. Apparently, Driller and him were old friends. After Driller and I quit, this stranger wanted to play. In the middle of the set in walks James Walden. James starts talking to the stranger during our match like they were old buds. In fact, James wanted to play the stranger one pocket and bet pretty high.

So, do you quit after the first set? Was Driller (the old hustler) in on this? Was James (another old hustler) in on this? Am I just too worried about someone making a move on me?

Steven
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The first clue you were in a bad game was his nickname, "Driller".

However he got it, at a pool room, with the mob, or at a gay bar, it's not going to turn out real well for ya.

Chirs
 
Lol

TATE said:
The first clue you were in a bad game was his nickname, "Driller".

However he got it, at a pool room, with the mob, or at a gay bar, it's not going to turn out real well for ya.

Chirs
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Now that was funny!!! :grin-square:

How do you know you're in a bad game? When your opponent is 1-stroking and making every ball on the table.

James Waldon is a straight up guy, he doesn't game anyone.

and last, don't play a stranger until you at least watch him play someone else first, and don't be noticed doing it. If he knows you are watching him, he might shoot down to sucker you to a game. And if you are watching him, make sure he is not playing a friend of his.
 
If you re entering a pool-hall-and a stranger s asking your for action....usualy you ALWAYS have to think, that the guy perhaps sharks you. And anyway-if you already think about, that you perhaps get sharked, gamed or whatever....it was already wrong to start a set for 5 bucks my friend,

lg
Ingo
 
Snapshot9 said:
Now that was funny!!! :grin-square:

How do you know you're in a bad game? When your opponent is 1-stroking and making every ball on the table.

James Waldon is a straight up guy, he doesn't game anyone.

and last, don't play a stranger until you at least watch him play someone else first, and don't be noticed doing it. If he knows you are watching him, he might shoot down to sucker you to a game. And if you are watching him, make sure he is not playing a friend of his.
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I agree with all the above. Very good advice if your not at least a shortstop. Johnnyt
 
Screw it!.......step up and play ANYONE for as cheap as you can! Forget who is working an angle, or if you are getting moved on, and never ask for weight......just get in the ring, play your best, and keep your eyes open so you learn something. Theres pretty much only 2 things that can happen........right? :)

This was my strategy when I was coming up, and I got up to speed pretty fast.....not to mention when you are willing to match up, the guys you are playing will help you out when they realize you are trying to learn.

G.
 
Gmanpoke said:
Can you tell you're in a bad game after the first set?

This last weekend I was playing an old hustler named Driller. We were playing on a tight triple shimmed GC. Anyway, I guy I have never seen before started watching us. Apparently, Driller and him were old friends. After Driller and I quit, this stranger wanted to play. In the middle of the set in walks James Walden. James starts talking to the stranger during our match like they were old buds. In fact, James wanted to play the stranger one pocket and bet pretty high.

So, do you quit after the first set? Was Driller (the old hustler) in on this? Was James (another old hustler) in on this? Am I just too worried about someone making a move on me?

Steven
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a guy i know was getting the 5/7 playing 9 ball on a pool table with 4inch pockets (for $500). the guy he's playing at one opens up and hits him with a 5 pack. he lost 15-3

a few weeks later i make a comment about it and he says "i bet he wont give me that spot again!!!!".lol!!!!! some guys never realize they they're in a bad game
 
Gerry said:
Screw it!.......step up and play ANYONE for as cheap as you can! Forget who is working an angle, or if you are getting moved on, and never ask for weight......just get in the ring, play your best, and keep your eyes open so you learn something. Theres pretty much only 2 things that can happen........right? :)

This was my strategy when I was coming up, and I got up to speed pretty fast.....not to mention when you are willing to match up, the guys you are playing will help you out when they realize you are trying to learn.

G.
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Good post Gerry. It depends on your personality and your goals to an extent. I take it the stranger won the 1st set or else you wouldn't think of pulling up so quickly... But you left out key elements in your Dear Abby Op - like were you playing cheap or betting for decent dough? Was the guy stroking like SVB?

If you're playing and feeling good, go to the bathroom like J Gleason and freshen up. Recite PHJunkie Christopher Walken's pep talk about the lion in the jungle. Keep playing the stranger play for an amount that's not going to hurt too bad. Get some weight if it's appropriate. If you beat the guy and later find out his middle name was Zeus, then maybe you'll acquire a new nickname - like Driller Killer.

If you lose to Zeus, then big deal, he's Zeus afterall. Evaluate your play for the match and learn from it. You'll get better faster as a result.

Your game won't improve much if your best dance is the crawfish shuffle.
 
RiverCity said:
You werent being hustled. You were just around faster company than you are used to.
Depending on how your finances are, keep the bet small and play guys like that some. You can learn a lot if you know what you are looking at.
Chuck
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No , you won't - cuz if they're real hustlers , their game will stay small while the bet stays small . You gotta pay to see the magic !
 
TATE said:
The first clue you were in a bad game was his nickname, "Driller".

However he got it, at a pool room, with the mob, or at a gay bar, it's not going to turn out real well for ya.

Chirs
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You might be OK if you're near an oilfield . . . .
or if he's a dentist . . .
 
Stranger wanting to play.

I'm always leary of a guy that's sat there watching me hit balls for a half hour, suddenly walks up wanting to play. I feel like he is licking his chops after watching me dog off a bunch of balls. I just decline. I guess I ain't got no heart. I sure as poop don't have the money to give away to a guy that knows he has the nuts coming into the match.
 
TATE said:
The first clue you were in a bad game was his nickname, "Driller".

However he got it, at a pool room, with the mob, or at a gay bar, it's not going to turn out real well for ya.

Chirs
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The way I understand it, Buddy Hall gave him the nickname Driller. Driller was the Ref for the Jean Balukas and Robin Bell match in 1988 at Ceasers Palace.
 
RiverCity said:
You werent being hustled. You were just around faster company than you are used to.
Depending on how your finances are, keep the bet small and play guys like that some. You can learn a lot if you know what you are looking at.
Chuck
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You maybe right. But, I play with James Walden, Joey Gray, and Chip Compton. I understand I'm not at their level and thats ok. I donate to these guys.

It just seemed strange that I have never seen this guy but both Driller and James new him and he wanted to play me. Also strange was James has not been around for several months. Then all the sudden James shows up just as some stranger, that James knows, wants to play me? Really?

Maybe I'm just being paranoid. But, I'd rather be wrong and keep my money. I understand most replies regarding playing stronger players for the cash. But, my original question was not about player better players for the cash. The question is more specific: how do you know when you're in a bad game. In other words, when negotiating the match you thought you had the best of it or at least a chance. When do you realize you were out negotiated?

Steven
 
TATE said:
The first clue you were in a bad game was his nickname, "Driller".

However he got it, at a pool room, with the mob, or at a gay bar, it's not going to turn out real well for ya.

Chirs
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ffffkn chris!!! that was a good one! rep to you if i could!!!
 
Its amazing nowdays IMO how everyone has to see you play or get a line on you before playing.If you play good and a stranger shows up why not get up and try him some.Bet what ur comft. with and play. If youve watched him and think you can win its not gambling.When i was a kid I went on the road with Bucky Bell and was amazed at how all trough the south every room we went in guys would just jump up and play,real show of heart and gamble.
 
TATE said:
The first clue you were in a bad game was his nickname, "Driller".

However he got it, at a pool room, with the mob, or at a gay bar, it's not going to turn out real well for ya.

Chirs
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Reminds me of the time in Chicago when me and a few friends were playing a guy at a bar and getting beat pretty bad. My friend Pete was playing him when another friend, the owner, came up and asked, "What's Pete doing playing The Grinder?" With a nickname like that, you know you're in trouble. And we were.

Same thing happened another time at the same place, only that time it was WaterDog.

Long story short: Chicago has, or at least had, some pretty colorful nicknames and you should determine whether someone has one before playing, and exercise caution accordingly.

Cory
 
When do you know you're in a bad game?

When, even while you're emptying your wallet, you still feel like you have the better of it.
 
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