Timmy Scruggs ..no more

Did Tim start out at Joss Cues in the late 60's, early 70's? Thought I read that somewhere.
 
I thought Tim had not been making many cue's for quit sometime. I have heard on here and other place's multiple time's that Tim made very few of the sneaky pete cue's with his logo on them. It is sad to hear but at least he and his cue's can be remembered as some of the best.
 
atthecat said:
Did Tim start out at Joss Cues in the late 60's, early 70's? Thought I read that somewhere.
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The "Blue Book of Pool Cues" says Tim worked for Dan Janes and Bill Stroud at the Joss shop in Baltimore for 3 months in 1970, then went back to working in a pool hall. When Bill Stroud left Baltimore in 1972, Tim accepted an offer from Dan to return to Joss. Tim worked there for six years then set up his own shop in 1978.
 
This news pretty much assures I'll never be able to afford a TS cue...May those who have them enjoy them.
 
Mr. Scruggs

Tim is a Hall of Fame cue maker and a great guy. He's had a wonderful career and I agree with Dean about having him consult or mentor. His master craftsmanship will be truly missed. But I'm glad he now has the time to enjoy his successful retirement and can take the time to smell the roses. He has certainly earned it.
 
AtLarge said:
The "Blue Book of Pool Cues" says Tim worked for Dan Janes and Bill Stroud at the Joss shop in Baltimore for 3 months in 1970, then went back to working in a pool hall. When Bill Stroud left Baltimore in 1972, Tim accepted an offer from Dan to return to Joss. Tim worked there for six years then set up his own shop in 1978.
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Thanks for that info. I love it, because my favorite cue I own is a Joss from 74-75. Tim probably had his hands on it.
I guess everything comes to an end. Good luck Tim.
 
AtLarge said:
The "Blue Book of Pool Cues" says Tim worked for Dan Janes and Bill Stroud at the Joss shop in Baltimore for 3 months in 1970, then went back to working in a pool hall. When Bill Stroud left Baltimore in 1972, Tim accepted an offer from Dan to return to Joss. Tim worked there for six years then set up his own shop in 1978.
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Once, when speaking with Mike, he told me that Tim worked for a little while together with Bill McDaniel on the same cues. Not sure exactly what their arrangement was but apparently they collaborated some.

It would be nice to see an accurate bio for Tim to see the path he took in becoming a top cuemaker.

As for values of TS cues skyrocketing over this news, my sense is they may edge up slightly, but that's about it. The writing has been on the wall for some time regarding his cuemaking operation slowing or coming to an end. That coupled with the current poor market conditions for upper end, collectible cues both lead me to believe TS cues won't go through the roof.

That said, I'm sure people who own TS cues, myself included, will be tightening their grip some.

Best,
Briasn kc
 
Yes, this was the impression I got when I spoke with Mike Cochran early this year. He also told me that neither him or Tim built sneaky petes. The reason they stopped selling sneaky petes when the person in the shop who made it for them retired.

$TAKE HOR$E said:
I thought Tim had not been making many cue's for quit sometime. I have heard on here and other place's multiple time's that Tim made very few of the sneaky pete cue's with his logo on them. It is sad to hear but at least he and his cue's can be remembered as some of the best.
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I had the honor of meeting both Tim & Mike on a couple of occassions at there shop while I was passing through Maryland. You won`t find better people than Tim & Mike. They both took time out of there busy day & answered questions about there cues & materials used in there cues as well. They will be sadly missed in the cue building world.
Jeff
 
I had the privilege of playing with a scruggs several times, and the craftsmanship and feel were great. Its sad to hear that a cue maker of his caliber is going to retire.

I can say that he is one of the makers that I strive to model myself after. He will be missed but his legacy will not be forgotten.
 
ctyhntr said:
Yes, this was the impression I got when I spoke with Mike Cochran early this year. He also told me that neither him or Tim built sneaky petes. The reason they stopped selling sneaky petes when the person in the shop who made it for them retired.
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My understanding was that it was Bob Frey who made them. He's making cues on his own now, I believe.
 
I just called the phone number and got the answering machine. Seems funny the machine would still be connected if they were out of business.
 
Good luck in your retirement Tim. I purchased a beautiful cue from you 30 years ago, and still own it. It is gorgeous, and won many dollars playing with it. I showed it to Tim, and Dan Janes this past Super Billiards Expo- Tim said "where did you get that". I said I bought it from you personally 30 years ago, and he said he remembered making it in his garage. I also have the original case it came in, it is a (Bill McDaniels-Scruggs) Felini look alike, real nice. So thank you for my piece of pool cue making history, and again all the best!
 
ga9ball said:
Good luck in your retirement Tim. I purchased a beautiful cue from you 30 years ago, and still own it. It is gorgeous, and won many dollars playing with it. I showed it to Tim, and Dan Janes this past Super Billiards Expo- Tim said "where did you get that". I said I bought it from you personally 30 years ago, and he said he remembered making it in his garage. I also have the original case it came in, it is a (Bill McDaniels-Scruggs) Felini look alike, real nice. So thank you for my piece of pool cue making history, and again all the best!
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How about some pictures? I'd love to see more pics of everyone's TS cues in this thread. It a fitting tribute I think...
 
No scruggs pictures out there? Have you all hidden them away in your safe since it looks like he's retired lol
 
Kickin' Chicken said:
As for values of TS cues skyrocketing over this news, my sense is they may edge up slightly, but that's about it. The writing has been on the wall for some time regarding his cuemaking operation slowing or coming to an end. That coupled with the current poor market conditions for upper end, collectible cues both lead me to believe TS cues won't go through the roof.

Best,
Briasn kc
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I agree with your thoughts on TS cue values and i'd like to add that even though Tim and Mike (I miss him along with many others who've dealt with him) are no longer building cues there are a lot of cues around that they've built. It's a supply and demand thing that really makes the price go up. There are so many TS cues around that I wouldn't expect a big jump in their value and the same thing goes for Paul Mottey who recently retired. He built a lot of cues and they aren't too hard to find so the price hasn't jumped on his cues either.

No matter what the price does i'd give a lot to have the TS cues i've owned and sold back in my hands........

James
 
your probobly correct...I think the prices are gonna be about the same for a while. But you have one and don't need to sell it I would hold on to it. I would think that when and if the economy ever gets going again that scruggs as most cues will see a nice jump.
 
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