wrap or not
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How already show up by dr9ball- it s all about your personal feeling. It is just important that YOU re feeling comfortable. For example many playing without wrap because they want to have the *same* feeling , no matter where they have to grip the cue- so it really doesn t matter at all
My hands, and everything else, sweat profusely at the table... I just carry a good clean towel with me. I agree that wrap/no wrap is a personal preference. With my arm length, I'm never gripping on the wrap anyways. I have one cue with leather stack wrap and others with linen wraps, but only in special situations (finesse speed shots, where I'm gripping up) does my hand ever touch the wrap.
Bob
Bob
It´s basically the feel you like. I like either no wrap or leather wrap, I could never really get used to linen.
I can honestly say that with a good non-wrapped cue, I was able to learn more from the feedback recieved from my shots. I tried a similar cue with a wrap and it felt "muffled" a bit. Both were almost identical custom cues from the same maker also. But that is just my personal experience.
Wraps or not
I think if you have sweaty hands constantly, you probably need a wrap. I think they have a pill for that now. They got pills for everything else, just ask Jimmy Johnson. I have shot with both and could care less either way. I do like the looks of beautiful wood throughout and am having I hope a gorgeous no wrap cue made right now, only 24 more weeks of waiting. Now for my own news flash, and I am no expert by any means, but I think cuestick makers are getting by with wraps cause they don't have to do anything with 2/3 of the butt!! Good thing about wraps is you won't damage that part of the butt. Now they will of course tell you that wrapping a cue is a bigtime skill. NO SEAM leather wraps?? What a joke. Even these old eyes can find the seam in 5 seconds. If you do a wrap get a dark color because light colors get dirty quick. Meucci covers their wraps with the finish. What the hell is that. Those folks at meucci probably take their shower with a raincoat on.
I think if you have sweaty hands constantly, you probably need a wrap. I think they have a pill for that now. They got pills for everything else, just ask Jimmy Johnson. I have shot with both and could care less either way. I do like the looks of beautiful wood throughout and am having I hope a gorgeous no wrap cue made right now, only 24 more weeks of waiting. Now for my own news flash, and I am no expert by any means, but I think cuestick makers are getting by with wraps cause they don't have to do anything with 2/3 of the butt!! Good thing about wraps is you won't damage that part of the butt. Now they will of course tell you that wrapping a cue is a bigtime skill. NO SEAM leather wraps?? What a joke. Even these old eyes can find the seam in 5 seconds. If you do a wrap get a dark color because light colors get dirty quick. Meucci covers their wraps with the finish. What the hell is that. Those folks at meucci probably take their shower with a raincoat on.
I think the main function of a wrap is to keep your hand from slipping on the cue even when you use a light grip for a power shot. Linen is not very good for that purpose -- no wrap is better than linen. Rayon/nylon as found on some cheap cues is the worst.
A rubber wrap seems to be the best. That doesn't fit in well with some players' ideas of cues as art. I guess you have to choose between style and function.
A rubber wrap seems to be the best. That doesn't fit in well with some players' ideas of cues as art. I guess you have to choose between style and function.
With all due respect... I prefer the opposite.. I want my cue to slide easily and consistently...well pressed linen does that job better than any other,, IMO..
linen slides... no wrap skids...
even direct application of force with a known end is a slide..
intermittent starts and stops with inherent unpredictability is a skid..
JMO
Well, yes, if you want a slip stroke, that's understandable. Most people don't want the cue to slip during the shot. Slip stroke seems to be an aberration among a small percentage of pool players. It is not found at all in snooker or top-level carom. Personally, I think adopting a slip stroke is a mistake.
Observing players at tournaments it seems there are some people who carry a towel and are wiping their hands between shots. One symptom of anxiety is sweaty palms and pool is an anxiety arousing activity. It is not necessarily a negative anxiety and may be arousing for some people, what Hans Selye called the "race horse" type of person.
Depending on individual preferences some sort of sweat absorbing material is probably of use to some players.
Many people in our culture have a negative association to “sweaty palms” and this is unfortunate. People have individual ways in which they cope with stress and one of these very normal reactions is to exhibit sweaty palms.
Some people become internally jittery under these circumstances. We usually cannot see the physiological result but it is there. Some people have to wear more deodorant than others. It is only a matter of human differences and not something that the individual should be overly concerned with. Bodily functions are just that, something to be coped with. If a sweat absorbing wrap can be used to make the problem less obvious in our judgmental society then such a wrap should be used for the comfort factor if for no other reason.
Depending on individual preferences some sort of sweat absorbing material is probably of use to some players.
Many people in our culture have a negative association to “sweaty palms” and this is unfortunate. People have individual ways in which they cope with stress and one of these very normal reactions is to exhibit sweaty palms.
Some people become internally jittery under these circumstances. We usually cannot see the physiological result but it is there. Some people have to wear more deodorant than others. It is only a matter of human differences and not something that the individual should be overly concerned with. Bodily functions are just that, something to be coped with. If a sweat absorbing wrap can be used to make the problem less obvious in our judgmental society then such a wrap should be used for the comfort factor if for no other reason.
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There is also a small and simple surgical procedure that can be done to relive one of sweaty palms.
Basically, to get your hand position right, you have to fine tune your hand position. So that is why slip ease is important. But, not slipping, allows a looser grip, and therefore a more relaxed grip/stroke. So, it is a balance between slip and grip.
To me, wrapless is the grippiest and linen slips the easiest. I prefer wrapless, think I would like leather alot too.
To me, wrapless is the grippiest and linen slips the easiest. I prefer wrapless, think I would like leather alot too.
wrapless
I bought a couple of wrapless cues thinking I would like the increased feel, lack of smoke smell, and easier to keep clean. My problem is that my hand moves around from shot-to-shot and from chalking to shooting. Now I realize that I need a wrap because I grip the cue more consistently.
I bought a couple of wrapless cues thinking I would like the increased feel, lack of smoke smell, and easier to keep clean. My problem is that my hand moves around from shot-to-shot and from chalking to shooting. Now I realize that I need a wrap because I grip the cue more consistently.
Slip stroke
The slip stroke is pretty rare. We have a great player in our league who uses a slip stroke and he says it was not a planned thing, it just started happening. I agree it's not something to learn and can't imagine trying to learn the slip stroke. Also can't think their is a shot the slip stroke would be necessary to achieve that shot.
The slip stroke is pretty rare. We have a great player in our league who uses a slip stroke and he says it was not a planned thing, it just started happening. I agree it's not something to learn and can't imagine trying to learn the slip stroke. Also can't think their is a shot the slip stroke would be necessary to achieve that shot.