Gotcha. I just thought the fervent CTE proponents might have interpreted your use of the term "psychological" as disrespectful. On the contrary, I think you have a done a good job recently of touting the benefits of CTE.
Regards,
Dave
Why CTE is silly
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Regards,
Dave
You want to believe he uses CTE. The video examples you love to post just show inconclusive, unexplained cue movement on a few shots.
On the other hand we have many other players who have beaten Bustamante and definitely don't use CTE.
You've said on more than one occasion that you think CTE/Pro1 is the wave of the future and that "it's how everybody will aim" - or words to that effect. I think you're grossly overestimating its universal appeal because it works well for you and you simply don't know how to assess it realistically.
CTE/Pro1 is a minor tool in the overall pool universe and will undoubtedly remain that way - not because it's useless, but because it's just not as universally helpful as you want to think.
pj
chgo
Well said Ron!
I tend to take contrary positions about it in response to the polarized positions that others tend to take. I do this to center the discussion and also because, well... I'm contrary (others will have other words for this).
pj
chgo
See, this i have to agree with.
I know a few players who use CTE, and they NEVER pivot.
And then in know players who do not use CTE, whos fundementals are terrible, or whos pre-shot routine is such, that they are all over the place with the shaft, and when they deliver, they deliver straight, and immediately, some CTE person sees this, and has one of those,"OMG, HE USES CTE! YIPEEEEE!!!!!!!" types of moments, when the player with all the extra cue movement, has no clue what CTE is.
It's just ridiculous.
I remember when i actually was fooling around with CTE to see for myself.
So naturally, it just so happened that on THAT DAY, a NEWBIE who reads the forums was like, "OMG, ARE YOU USING CTE!?!?!"
I just told them that i was fooling around with it to see what all the hype was about, and that it really wasn't doing anything to impress me.
He was convinced, long after i had dismissed CTE as not for me, (no visible pivot in my normal game) that i was still using it, and was stepping into the shot, post air pivot.
When he asked me about it, i just looked at him like he was an idiot, and to leave me alone.
Like, WTF!!!
Are you for real?? Get a grip already.
I believe that this phenomena is particular to all CTE proponents.
Whether it is CTE or not, they feel better about things, if they attribute any pivoting movement to CTE.
I'd be willing to bet that if a top pro player who never used CTE, had a pre-shot pivot of some form, was asked by a CTE-er if he used CTE, that the CTE-er WOULD NOT BELIEVE HIM/HER if they said no, and would secretly feel as if the pro was hiding something, and would then scrutinize that pros game even more, LOOKING for things that could be used to reinforce their argument.
IT'S LIKE A FRIGGING DISEASE!!!
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I also remember reading in a recent CTE thread that when someone uses CTE really effectively, you can't actually see the "pivot." In other words, if you are really good at CTE, nobody can even tell if you are using CTE or not. If that's the case, then any good players can be accused of using CTE.
I always thought the top players were using DAM; but now I'm not so sure, because it looks like they are not using CTE ... so maybe they are using CTE?
:grin-square:Regards,
Dave
PM sent...........
He prefers to manually pivot and dislikes air pivoting. I know because we discussed it at length. sigggggh
Honestly I'm afraid of CTE. I have tried to get into it but its a bit much. I fear I will always be a punter now because of my fear of CTE. I tried to keep my aiming very simple like hit the object ball in a certain spot. I knew it couldn't be that simple. Stupid game. Stupid math. Stupid scary CTE. I'm confused cuz like- is CTE an aiming thing or an alignment thing? SEE! Im giving up on this monster. Punter......... forever.......:frown:
I also remember reading in a recent CTE thread that when someone uses CTE really effectively, you can't actually see the "pivot." In other words, if you are really good at CTE, nobody can even tell if you are using CTE or not. If that's the case, then any good players can be accused of using CTE.
I always thought the top players were using DAM; but now I'm not so sure, because it looks like they are not using CTE ... so maybe they are using CTE?
Regards,
Dave
See what I mean by entertaining :grin::grin::grin:???
Maniac
1390 posts on CTE and people still cant get it. Is it worth it? There is so much passion about CTE. Whats CTE? How does it work?
You don't want the truth. You couldn't handle the truth!!!!
Maniac
I really dont think I can handle it. I have tried and gave up because I didnt get it. Could someone please explain what you do in an EASY way?
1.) Figure out the contact point on the object ball.
2.) Figure out what point of the cue ball needs to hit the contact point on the object ball.
3.) Shoot the shot as to make the two points meet.
Easiest way I can explain it. BTW, no charge
!!!Maniac
1.) Figure out the contact point on the object ball.
2.) Figure out what point of the cue ball needs to hit the contact point on the object ball.
3.) Shoot the shot as to make the two points meet.
Easiest way I can explain it. BTW, no charge
Maniac
Or, you can hire Amadeus to teach his version of CTE to you:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=207781
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-Sean
Hi,
Is that your grandson in your avatar?
It looks like he has shifted his cue a tip left of CTE and is ready to pivot back to the center of the CB sending the OB into the corner pocket...kudos.:smile:
The only instructions I've ever seen for CTE are summarized here (see the two versions summarized at the top of the document):
The rest of the document explains and illustrates how to make them work for a wide range of shots. You need to adjust the "effective pivot length" to create the exact amount of cut needed for each shot within a given alignment.
To keep things simple, you can ignore everything beyond the basic instructions and just develop a "feel" for the pivot through experience (i.e., keep practicing with the system via trial and error until it starts working for a wide range of shots).
Regards,
Dave
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