Masters 10 BALL

Every 9-ball tournament that exists should be changed to 10-ball. It is a better game in every way for professional competition.
 
It's shaping up to be another great event. And Lord knows we need more good tournaments in America! Nice added money, good payoffs, and once again Barry is paying deep, so a lot of players will get something back. 20K on top isn't too shabby either! Ranking points or not, it's a good tournament for pro players from all over the America's and beyond.

I also like the change to Ten Ball. Far fewer problems with the rack and much more difficult to break and run the balls. The advantage obviously goes to the better players in a tournament like this. It would be nice to fill the field the first time out. I am aware that the U.S. Bar Table ends two days earlier on Feb. 27. That gives players a full day (Feb. 28) to travel from the West Coast to the East Coast, which should be no problem.

We will be glad to accommodate players who know they are getting in late on the 28th by scheduling them for a later round match on the 1st. The players meeting is not until 10 AM on the 1st as well, with matches beginning at Noon. Any player who has already signed up to play in the Masters and has a late flight to the East Coast should contact Barry or Shannon and let them know. Ken and I will take care of scheduling them in an evening round on day one.

The above only pertains to players coming from Reno or from foreign soil who also have scheduling problems. We will work with you on day one only, and only then to move your match back to an evening round.
 
Joe T said:
YESSSSSSSSS
In case you missed it on the front page Barry made the move to 10 ball for the Masters. I think this will be a great move for the players, spectators and our sport, thanks for this and everything else Barry.
http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.php?storynum=8166
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I think you deserve credit Joe, for starting a "movement" that appears to have captured the imagination and changed the pool world. :groucho:
 
Celtic said:
Every 9-ball tournament that exists should be changed to 10-ball. It is a better game in every way for professional competition.
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Hmm.. tournaments when the players can consistently run 9 ball racks should be changed. But I've seen some amateur tournaments that do not need to be changed :)
 
vincentwu817 said:
Hmm.. tournaments when the players can consistently run 9 ball racks should be changed. But I've seen some amateur tournaments that do not need to be changed :)
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Its not really just about the rack running at all, its more about the rack and racking issues which do carry down to our higher level amateurs also.

In 9 ball the rack can be more important than the break which leads to more delays and arguements than anything else in the game. 10 ball will lead to less arguements between players and promote a slightly higher level of play for all of us.

I would love to see MORE racks of 9 ball being run if we're gonna play the game, just as long as both players have the same fair chance at breaking the same consistent rack. I think major 9 ball tournaments with the magic rack or balls tapped in with an alternate break format would be very exciting. It isn't as easy as it looks to run multiple racks of 9B and if players traded racks all the way to the finish it would be more pressure packed.
I've never seen a bowling match where players traded strikes for a long period of time but I imagine those are the best matches to be a part of and it could be the same with this format for 9B.
 
Joe T said:
I would love to see MORE racks of 9 ball being run if we're gonna play the game, just as long as both players have the same fair chance at breaking the same consistent rack. I think major 9 ball tournaments with the magic rack or balls tapped in with an alternate break format would be very exciting.

It isn't as easy as it looks to run multiple racks of 9B and if players traded racks all the way to the finish it would be more pressure packed.
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So Joe,
Are you recommending, alternate break with 9B?

I think "exciting" is FAR better for pool in the long run, imo.
 
JoeyA said:
So Joe,
Are you recommending, alternate break with 9B?

I think "exciting" is FAR better for pool in the long run, imo.
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I think it would be a great format in conjunction with a Magic Rack. I posted to Jay that the Open may want to consider this. Spectator wise, it surely would be good for TV IMO. Is this format being done somewhere (maybe across the pond)? If so, how's it being received?

Note: this is not meant to hijack Joe's thread, if it gains traction we could start a new thread :o
 
I do recommend alternate break in 9 ball with THE SAME RACK.

We might hear the same 2 old arguements;
Spectators will say they want to see packages and I say the can, a player can still always be on a run of 5 or 6, can't wait to se 10 or 11 which I believe we eventually would WITH the opponent having the SAME opportunity.
And then some players would say it's too tough to come back in that format and I say you can come back EXACTLY how you fell behind, unless your opponent doesn't falter like you did and in which case they deserve to win.
 
I think it's great Barry went with 10-ball for his Masters tournament, but why is the 10-ball masters and the US bar tournament so close together? Both are big and both are in the US on different coasts. Johnnyt
 
Joe T said:
I do recommend alternate break in 9 ball with THE SAME RACK.

We might hear the same 2 old arguements;
Spectators will say they want to see packages and I say the can, a player can still always be on a run of 5 or 6, can't wait to se 10 or 11 which I believe we eventually would WITH the opponent having the SAME opportunity.
And then some players would say it's too tough to come back in that format and I say you can come back EXACTLY how you fell behind, unless your opponent doesn't falter like you did and in which case they deserve to win.
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I think spectators might enjoy watching a match if players weren't missing a ball but every now and then. When spectators see professional players missing ball after ball or playing safe two or three times in a row, they quickly lose interest in the game and find something else to do with their short attention span. If the equipment is so tough and the rules are made so that it is practically impossible for a player to put together a five pack, then spectators aren't going to watch.

If a group of spectators are watching a match and the players haven't missed one ball, they are on the edge of their seat waiting to see when either player is going to falter. When they leave, they talk about their incredible experience of watching two guys who never missed a ball.... OR, the specatators can go home and say "I wasted my whole day watching some "professional" players who couldn't run a rack of pool"......

Different perspectives for different people. ... We need spectators to watch the matches. We don't have them right now...
 
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JoeyA said:
I think spectators might enjoy watching a match if players weren't missing a ball but every now and then. When spectators see professional players missing ball after ball or playing safe two or three times in a row, they quickly lose interest in the game and find something else to do with their short attention span. If the equipment is so tough and the rules are made so that it is practically impossible for a player to put together a five pack, then spectators aren't going to watch.

If a group of spectators are watching a match and the players haven't missed one ball, they are on the edge of their seat waiting to see when either player is going to falter. When they leave, they talk about their incredible experience of watching two guys who never missed a ball.... OR, the specatators can go home and say "I wasted my whole day watching some "professional" players who could run a rack of pool"......

Different perspectives for different people. ... We need spectators to watch the matches. We don't have them right now...
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I'm with ya and I think this format would create more of that edge of the seat excitement, likened to a tiebreaker in tennis.
 
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