BEST CARE for a POOL ROOM!

Ken_4fun

Ken_4fun

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I had to post this. I have only lived down here in Paducah for about a year and half.

The local poolroom owner is a player and frankly a fanatic about his tables. He just got his tables recovered in Simonis for the second time this year..:eek:.

I asked him about it, I frankly couldnt believe he was recovering them so soon. He said he gets them recovered at least once per year....

I told him the Simonis on my table at home is about 12 years old. I asked the guys working on the tables what they would charge to recover my table, they replied $400 to recover....seemed a little steep for me.

Ken
 
I know in California $400 is cheap, if you want it done by the best around, Oscar and Ernesto
 
Is the $400 for the pool room's price because he is doing multiple tables, or is that a one table price?
 
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That is out of line

Ken_4fun said:
I had to post this. I have only lived down here in Paducah for about a year and half.

The local poolroom owner is a player and frankly a fanatic about his tables. He just got his tables recovered in Simonis for the second time this year..:eek:.

I asked him about it, I frankly couldnt believe he was recovering them so soon. He said he gets them recovered at least once per year....

I told him the Simonis on my table at home is about 12 years old. I asked the guys working on the tables what they would charge to recover my table, they replied $400 to recover....seemed a little steep for me.

Ken
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If they quoted 400 just to recover, that is a ripoff. Or is there a lack of communication and that price includes the cloth?
As a room owner I would never pay that much including cloth. Max is 300 to 325 with cloth. I did 4 tables last year with Simonis because they have the best blue but I am disappointed. I would rather use Pro Championship, last longer and plays as good or better in my opinion. All pool rooms get rougher use and more of it than a home table so it wears fast. Especially Simonis. Going back to Championship for all my 20 tables. It is worth it in long run. And I live in California where prices are usually way higher for labor. Cloth is all the same if you shop around.
 
My pool hall doesn't recover the tables too often, but the manager vacuums them every morning and brushes them anytime someone gets off a table. He also waxes the balls after every use (they are lent out in rotation rather than assigned to a table so the used balls get sent to the bottom of the too be cleaned stack). Because of this, the tables play perfect and the balls are 11 years old, but, suprisingly, look brand new.
 
Ken_4fun said:
I had to post this. I have only lived down here in Paducah for about a year and half.

The local poolroom owner is a player and frankly a fanatic about his tables. He just got his tables recovered in Simonis for the second time this year..:eek:.

I asked him about it, I frankly couldnt believe he was recovering them so soon. He said he gets them recovered at least once per year....

I told him the Simonis on my table at home is about 12 years old. I asked the guys working on the tables what they would charge to recover my table, they replied $400 to recover....seemed a little steep for me.

Ken
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The differance between your table at home and tables used commercially is that the very people who complain about the condition of the tables abuse the tables doing far to many things that most would never do on their own personal table at home. I cover my tables in my room once a year and they need it, not because they are not taken care of. They are brushed and vacummed at least once a day if not more depending upon who used the table. Some people will make a big mess and others are more respectful, I suppose it is just the nature of the beast.

But either way it sounds like the pool room owner in your area cares and does his upmost to insure that people have quality equipment to play on which is what we all want, I mean who could ask for more.

Happy Thanksgiving
 
We charge about $400-$450 to recover in someones house. $400 is not expensive for a legitimate business that is paying wages, workmans comp, health insurance for workers and having gas and truck expenses not to mention cloth and guarantee the work.

For me to charge $300 I would have to cut my employees salary, make them give up health insurance, use factory second Simonis and shorten the warranty. Why would I do that to my employees or my reputation? Id rather do it right, make a profit, and lose a small % business to the few people who won't pay an extra $100 to do it correctly.
 
Ken_4fun said:
I had to post this. I have only lived down here in Paducah for about a year and half.

The local poolroom owner is a player and frankly a fanatic about his tables. He just got his tables recovered in Simonis for the second time this year..:eek:.

I asked him about it, I frankly couldnt believe he was recovering them so soon. He said he gets them recovered at least once per year....

I told him the Simonis on my table at home is about 12 years old. I asked the guys working on the tables what they would charge to recover my table, they replied $400 to recover....seemed a little steep for me.

Ken
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Maybe a bit high on the price but not much !

Has he tried the Simonis x-1 cloth cleaning tool?
Just wonder how it works.
 
manwon said:
The differance between your table at home and tables used commercially is that the very people who complain about the condition of the tables abuse the tables doing far to many things that most would never do on their own personal table at home. I cover my tables in my room once a year and they need it, not because they are not taken care of. They are brushed and vacummed at least once a day if not more depending upon who used the table. Some people will make a big mess and others are more respectful, I suppose it is just the nature of the beast.

But either way it sounds like the pool room owner in your area cares and does his upmost to insure that people have quality equipment to play on which is what we all want, I mean who could ask for more.

Happy Thanksgiving
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Wow, Manwon thanks for the response.

Dickie Todd had these recovered after about 8 months, but if you say you do about the same then maybe it wasnt as bad as I thought.

I was just thinking about comparing it to my home table.

Ken
 
Don't know about now, but 5-10 years ago when I was still playing, there wasn't anyone else around here besides Dickie's guys that you would want putting Simonis on your table. My parents let one of the others around here put it on their table, and its horrible. May be some others around now though, but if it were me I would pay the $400 gladly and know I have someone doing good work.
 
I'm envious that the hall owners actually care about the equipment. I applaud them. Thats not the case here.
 
Price

For what it's worth, I just paid $450 (labor and materials) to have my 9' Olhausen done. That included removing the old Simonis and replacing with the same 860. Of course it included a complete re-leveling as well. When you think about it, that is not bad if you are using a real professional. The material alone is around $250. They spent at least 2-3 hours getting everything absolutely perfect.

Also, just FYI, the top pool rooms here in Atlanta, Mr. Cues and Marietta Billiard Club (Johnny & Kim's place), recloth about every 6 months. And that is what makes them awesome places to play at.
 
$400 plus or minus $50 doesn't matter either way. What matters is if you like the way that they do the tables.

What would you like to pay? If you did it yourself you will probably pay around $250 for the cloth and the chance of messing it up.

What I have found is that many installers don't like Simonis and want to installl something else because it is hard to install unless you know the proper way.

Look in the Mechanic section and read RKC posts. There are a lot of hacks and very few that can do a table the right way.
 
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