Selling---Tascarella cue--

Ralf,
I stay on the other side, where you ADD to the collection and one that I am lucky enough to get custom made I'm taking with me when I go!Did you get #2 Golden Tascarella from Tim?The wife will KILL me if it shows up at my door! How is your DAD? I now pray 3 or 4 times a day for him!Please tell me he is BETTER! Ron
Hey Ron,
Tim NOT contact me again:confused:
My Dad have to die in the next couple of Month,cry.
Ralf
 
It is a real cue in need of Petes re wrap! Problem is I don't think he owns it?Yep you are the Man Kevin, always looking out for us! I hope I get my wheat bucks back,Ron

Ron

Yeah I don't think so either. Guys were hopping on because of the price, but I DUG those double orange veneers.

Wheat bucks ? Nice move, I sent cash, but as we all know. Wheat bux trump cash.

Kevin
 
Dudes, I am the new owner of this cue, and I must say I love it.

Smitty sold it to me for $5.69. Oh, it's true. It's damn true. :rolleyes:

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I'm sorry you see me as a problem, but the seller didn't burn me. I sent him a PayPal for $1850 and then another buyer and a few of his friends suggested I bow out of the deal and let the other fellow have the cue as it was really a great deal. I, being the great guy I am (although maybe not as great as Dave Sutton pointed out he is), asked the seller to refund my money which he did. He and I are all square.

The rest is conjecture.

Anyway. My understanding of iTrader is that is for deals and not conjecture, and John Smith and I had no deal, and really the dealing we had were above board. The only thing he did wrong is tell two people they were first, and in the feeding frenzy this cue caused, I can understand how he got confused.

Please let me know how I can make this right with you.

Thanks

Kevin

Well, gee Kevin. If you are so satisfied with the sale, why do you continue to sacastically slam the individual? Why do you refer to the cue as a FAKE cue? And why have you, and others slammed him with red? If the dealing was truly "above board" then why are YOU continuing the bashing? Get real man!:angry:
 
Well, gee Kevin. If you are so satisfied with the sale, why do you continue to sacastically slam the individual? Why do you refer to the cue as a FAKE cue? And why have you, and others slammed him with red? If the dealing was truly "above board" then why are YOU continuing the bashing? Get real man!:angry:

I haven't slammed him with red. I have no idea where you got that from.

I paid the guy for the cue.

Another member said he was first and should have rights to the cue.

I asked the seller for my money back so the other member could buy the cue

The seller sent my money back.

What cause do I have to leave a negative iTrader for?

Thanks again

Kevin
 
poolplayer1714

BTW, poolplayer1714 was online this morning. I wrote him and asked:

Why are you ignoring this thread: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=213817? Are you a scammer?

He responded with: I'm not interested in getting tied up in this BS...I think all this guy did was offer up a tascarella to cheap and desided not to sell it.. The pics he used from Proficient billiards was probably of his cue.. I'm staying out of it.

I then wrote: Staying out of it? YOU are the one that gave him a positive iTrader on the same day he joined! How is that possible? What did you buy from him? Where's the "purchase" thread? You are NOT "out of it! In fact, until YOU help resolve the matter...YOUR credibility here is nil!

and he decided NOT to respond!

My thoughts...if you are dumb enough to deal with this person you DESERVE to be separated from your money!:p
 
Ron

We'll see how great you think I am when you find out I secretly sent the seller another $125 in cash to insure that I am the real buyer of his fake cue!

Thanks

Kevin

Ok Kevin...if your not bashing the op, what is this post all about? If indeed it is a "fake" cue, then YOU should leave a negative iTrader. If it is NOT a fake cue...then you should stop the bashing! Fact is, people do not know what has happened here (few read the entire thread) and YOU are not helping the situation!
 
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Ok Kevin...if your not bashing the op, what is this post all about? If indeed it is a "fake" cue, then YOU should leave a negative iTrader. If it is NOT a fake cue...then you swhould stop the bashing! Fact is, people do not know what has happened here (few read the entire thread) :angry:and YOU are not helping the situation!

I didn't say I wasn't bashing him. I responded to your accusation that I had red repped him, which I have not. I've posted exactly what happened with me and this cue. I really don't know what else you want from me. I never saw the cue. I think its a fake so I've said I think its a fake. That's my opinion and I've posted it, sorry if that hasn't been clear enough for you or the members that you are protecting that haven't read the entire thread.

I can't post an iTrader, I never had a transaction with this guy. Have you posted any iTrader ratings based on something other than your experience buying a cue?

Yeah I think the guy is a scam, but it doesn't matter, he's ditched this handle and he'll move on to a new one.

Sorry if you feel I'm doing the community a disservice here, but I really don't understand how.

Thanks again

Kevin
 
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I didn't say I wasn't bashing him. I responded to your accusation that I had red repped him, which I have not. I've posted exactly what happened with me and this cue. I really don't know what else you want from me. I never saw the cue. I think its a fake so I've said I think its a fake. That's my opinion and I've posted it, sorry if that hasn't been clear enough for you or the members that you are protecting that haven't read the entire thread.

I can't post an iTrader, I never had a transaction with this guy. Have you posted any iTrader ratings based on something other than your experience buying a cue?

Yeah I think the guy is a scam, but it doesn't matter, he's ditched this handle and he'll move on to a new one.

Sorry if you feel I'm doing the community a disservice here, but I really don't understand how.

Thanks again

Kevin

Because if you have NO reason to bash him, then you should not be bashing him. If you do have a reason to bash him, then you have a reason to leave feedback. This is exactly I and many others have come to distrust AZ as a buyer or seller. It's like nobody wants to take a stand against the scammers! It's hard to tell who is...and who is not a scammer anymore! :mad:

Randy
 
Because if you have NO reason to bash him, then you should not be bashing him. If you do have a reason to bash him, then you have a reason to leave feedback. This is exactly I and many others have come to distrust AZ as a buyer or seller. It's like nobody wants to take a stand against the scammers! It's hard to tell who is...and who is not a scammer anymore! :mad:

Randy

Randy

So you are saying that even though I haven't had a transaction with this guy I should post an iTrader report?

I think I DO have reason to bash him. I think he leeched pics from Proficient Billiards and attempted to "sell" a cue he doesn't own. I didn't buy the cue so I don't have a reason to post an iTrader which in my opinion would be an abuse of the system. I have kept this thread alive and to be honest, I think anybody with a brain in their heads would decide to stay away.

Again, what else do you think I should do here?

Thanks again

Kevin
 
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Randy

So you are saying that even though I haven't had a transaction with this guy I should post an iTrader report?

Thanks again

Kevin

WTF Kevin...You HAVE had a transaction! You sent him money and had paypay refund it! Or were you lying about that?
 
WTF Kevin...You HAVE had a transaction! You sent him money and had paypay refund it! Or were you lying about that?

Lying? Have you read the thread?

I sent him money.

Danktrees asked me to let him buy the cue instead.

I asked the guy for my money back.

He sent it back.

Where's my transaction?

and where did he treat me badly?

If you think an iTrader can be posted off one's opinion of a guy being a scam (I don't) and if you think the guys a scam, why don't you post an iTrader?

I don't get your problem with me here.

Thanks again

Kevin
 
WTF Kevin...You HAVE had a transaction! You sent him money and had paypay refund it! Or were you lying about that?

12-21-2010, 12:02 PM

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After zero communication with this seller I received my notice of refund through PayPal.
I saw that the seller had his first post the day he offered this cue and had a eTrader feedback, and that looked plenty fishy to me, so I PayPaled him with a credit card.

I saw that hew was a seller that joined AZ to sell this cue and had no history with the community so I paid him through PayPal with a credit card.

I saw that even when he saw his cue and his pricing had created a feeding frenzy he decided to continue the sale so I PayPaled him with a credit card.

I saw that he obviously knew what he had and still decided to under price it so I PayPaled him with a credit card.

Anyway, to those of you that were concerned about my money, I totally appreciate your concern but I have been refunded.

To Danktress who requested the honor of doing this deal, proceed in anyway way you feel safe, I suggest

PayPal funded with a credit card.

Thanks

Kevin


This sounds like a transaction to me. Kevin if you are not part of the solution...you ARE part of the problem!
 
12-21-2010, 12:02 PM

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After zero communication with this seller I received my notice of refund through PayPal.
I saw that the seller had his first post the day he offered this cue and had a eTrader feedback, and that looked plenty fishy to me, so I PayPaled him with a credit card.

I saw that hew was a seller that joined AZ to sell this cue and had no history with the community so I paid him through PayPal with a credit card.

I saw that even when he saw his cue and his pricing had created a feeding frenzy he decided to continue the sale so I PayPaled him with a credit card.

I saw that he obviously knew what he had and still decided to under price it so I PayPaled him with a credit card.

Anyway, to those of you that were concerned about my money, I totally appreciate your concern but I have been refunded.

To Danktress who requested the honor of doing this deal, proceed in anyway way you feel safe, I suggest

PayPal funded with a credit card.

Thanks

Kevin


This sounds like a transaction to me. Kevin if you are not part of the solution...you ARE part of the problem!

Thanks for the primer on how I should be. I will definitely give your thoughts all the weight they deserve.

I asked the guy for my money back based on Danktrees requesting that I do so. The seller sent my money back.

The rest, both from myself and from everybody else, is conjecture, nobody else is posting iTraders on conjecture I don't know why you think I should. The guy was a perfect gentleman with me.

Thanks again

Kevin
 
Wow

Because if you have NO reason to bash him, then you should not be bashing him. If you do have a reason to bash him, then you have a reason to leave feedback. This is exactly I and many others have come to distrust AZ as a buyer or seller. It's like nobody wants to take a stand against the scammers! It's hard to tell who is...and who is not a scammer anymore! :mad:

Randy

Randy,
Why attack Kevin? If you want to POLICE AZ and break the rules in doing so why don't you send the iTrader to the guy!Kevin is not the ass you should be on so why don't you find the right one? Who are you to tell anyone who to BASH or not? Did you get Mr. Wilsons Job?WTF back at ya! Ron
 
Randy,
Why attack Kevin? If you want to POLICE AZ and break the rules in doing so why don't you send the iTrader to the guy!Kevin is not the ass you should be on so why don't you find the right one? Who are you to tell anyone who to BASH or not? Did you get Mr. Wilsons Job?WTF back at ya! Ron

Ron

I like the puppy on the left and I'm gonna give you positive iTrader because of it!

Thanks

Kevin
 
Randy,
Why attack Kevin? If you want to POLICE AZ and break the rules in doing so why don't you send the iTrader to the guy!Kevin is not the ass you should be on so why don't you find the right one? Who are you to tell anyone who to BASH or not? Did you get Mr. Wilsons Job?WTF back at ya! Ron

I guess we are all breaking the rules. The first rule is...if you have nothing good to say about someones sale thread...say nothing at all!
I do not understand why after saying he has had zero communication with the op, and had to have his money refunded by paypal, why can't HE leave feedback. If not negative, how about neutral? What does it take for people to speak out against the scammers here?
 
Wow that's nice of you Kevin! In return I will send favorable iTrader as well ! If the Dude don't send my wheat bucks or Tascarella I will be posting iTrader for him too! Ron<---Likes Kevin thinks he did good!
 
I guess we are all breaking the rules. The first rule is...if you have nothing good to say about someones sale thread...say nothing at all!
I do not understand why after saying he has had zero communication with the op, and had to have his money refunded by paypal, why can't HE leave feedback. If not negative, how about neutral? What does it take for people to speak out against the scammers here?

Actually that's not the rule. The rule is not to comment on people's pricing other than to say its a good deal. The part about warning people when we feel like a deal is a scam is just good community service.

I'm sorry you misunderstood about the refund (probably I was unclear) by zero communication with the seller I mean that he didn't eMail me or PM me, he just refunded my money through PayPal, just as I requested. If I had to file a dispute with PayPal to get my money back I would have negative feelings about the guy. Danktrees wanted the cue asked me to let him buy it, I asked the seller to give my money back and he did. None of that makes me feel bad about this guy and that's the extent of dealings I had with him.

As far as the conjecture about him being a scam, I share it. I think the guy is a scam. So do most of everybody that posted on this thread. None of those guys thought their conjecture warranted negative iTrader either, although many thought it merited discussion, which we did.

I also used the thread to teach some folks what little I know about how to operate with PayPal and have received (as of this post ) 11 positive reps for that, So again, other than you misunderstanding what many here have understood, exactly where is it I'm being a bad guy and part of the problem?

Thanks again

Kevin
 
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