Who's the real Prince of Pool? Larry Lisciotti or Corey Deuel?

was beauty that killed the beast.........

Jerry Lawler is the King...or was it that Elvis guy...

naw Kong is KING........


long live King Kong..........
 

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Why cause Donnie Mills is already the King of pattern racking? :p

S.

That, and I think it flows off the tongue much better! I can see Delta 13 selling a special Corey "The Crowned Prince of Pattern Racking" Deuel special edition Elite rack. Maybe some custom engraved crowns on the sides and the name on the back (if they can fit in that many characters). Rack will come with a 30 minute long instructional video on pattern racking by "The Crowned Prince of Pattern Racking" himself. In this amazing video you will get to see him spend the entire 30 minutes to rack ONE and only ONE rack perfectly. You also get a booklet that describes what he did in the video as it includes no talking as the concentration on getting the perfect rack is too much to interfere with.

Brian :)
 
Why do players need a "nickname"?

As far as the title of prince there are and can be more than one prince in a kingdom. There is only one king or queen unless the title of queen doesn't pertain to royalty than there can be many..
 
Folks:

To be honest, I don't understand this whole "Prince of Pool" thing. I mean, what does it mean? What did Corey do to earn this nickname? And, is it a nickname he really wants? (Something tells me the answer to that is a negative.)

To me, when I hear the phrase, "Prince of Pool," I think of a midget in swimming trunks and wearing a paper Burger King hat, sitting on the edge of the above-ground family pool in the backyard, and exclaiming in broken English, "I am 'Prince of Pool'! I am 'Prince of Pool'!" (Say this to yourself just like Hervé Villechaize of Fantasy Island -- e.g. "Boss, de plane! De plane!".)

Some of the dumbest nicknames I've ever heard are found in the pool world. (And yes, I include the WWE in that comparison.) Of course, some have a story behind them, like "Silent Assassin" (Tony Robles). And Ginky (George San Souci). There's a story behind those. But most... I mean... really? "Prince of Pool"? "Terminator"? (Niels Fiejen looks more like Dolph "I must break you!" Lundgren than he does Ahhhnold.) "Iceman"? (Everyone knows that Mika is no iceman -- he spews his emotions like a cracked lawn sprinkler. Ralf Souquet is a heck of a better example of someone earning an iceman moniker than Mika.) And speaking of Ralf, "The Kaiser"? Who gave him that -- some dumb culture-neutered American, just because the simpleton thinking goes, "Ralf is German, and what's the first thing I can think of that's also German -- yeah-yeah-yeah, let's call him that!"? So, in that dumb culture-neutered vein, because he's French, should we start calling Stephan Cohen, "Stephan 'Eiffel Tower' Cohen"? <smacks forehead with palm> :thud:

Who thinks of this crap? Honestly, I think the player him/herself should have a say in these nicknames as well. I'm not so sure Ralf likes being called "The Kaiser," and I'm sure Corey would rather be called by his real name -- he'd want his real name to have meaning (or to earn it, in time), not some dumb moniker he got tagged with.

JMHO. Sorry if it stings for the cheerleaders in our readership,
-Sean
 
Yeah, nicknames in pool are incredibly stupid and completely unnecessary. It seems promoters are trying to make pool like professional wrestling only with more gheyness.
 
Ktown,

You will never see Corey sign his autograph, Corey "the Prince of Pool"....

As some who embrace their nickname do, LOL.

S.

Some guys get no luck in the nickname department. If Dennis Orcullo were to be nicknamed "the penis" do you think he would embrace it? Has a nice ring to it don't it? Do you think he would he just shorten it to "Dick" when he autographed something?

These are serious questions, think carefully before you respond.
 
Some guys get no luck in the nickname department. If Dennis Orcullo were to be nicknamed "the penis" do you think he would embrace it? Has a nice ring to it don't it? Do you think he would he just shorten it to "Dick" when he autographed something?

These are serious questions, think carefully before you respond.

Ktown -- yup, all tongue-in-cheek aside, you're right! I'm sure that when Dennis Orcullo first heard he got tagged with the nickname, "RoboCop" (most likely, again, it *had* to be from some American), he had to do research to find out what the heck this even means. I can just picture him, with upturned eyebrow, in his best (but broken) English, "What is RoboCop? What it do? Is fishing lure?"

A more appropriate moniker might be, "Dennis 'Deadliest Catch' Orcullo". That, at least, has some propriety to it. Considering Dennis' background, it fits. You "catch" Dennis Orcullo as an opponent in the bracket charts, and you know you're facing death.

But alas, the gheyness prevails! :(
-Sean
 
I have to agree that pool nicknames are stupid imo.
Announce a player by his name . It is almost shameful to the sport.
This of course is just my opinion
 
Folks:

To be honest, I don't understand this whole "Prince of Pool" thing. I mean, what does it mean? What did Corey do to earn this nickname? And, is it a nickname he really wants? (Something tells me the answer to that is a negative.)

To me, when I hear the phrase, "Prince of Pool," I think of a midget in swimming trunks and wearing a paper Burger King hat, sitting on the edge of the above-ground family pool in the backyard, and exclaiming in broken English, "I am 'Prince of Pool'! I am 'Prince of Pool'!" (Say this to yourself just like Hervé Villechaize of Fantasy Island -- e.g. "Boss, de plane! De plane!".)

Some of the dumbest nicknames I've ever heard are found in the pool world. (And yes, I include the WWE in that comparison.) Of course, some have a story behind them, like "Silent Assassin" (Tony Robles). And Ginky (George San Souci). There's a story behind those. But most... I mean... really? "Prince of Pool"? "Terminator"? (Niels Fiejen looks more like Dolph "I must break you!" Lundgren than he does Ahhhnold.) "Iceman"? (Everyone knows that Mika is no iceman -- he spews his emotions like a cracked lawn sprinkler. Ralf Souquet is a heck of a better example of someone earning an iceman moniker than Mika.) And speaking of Ralf, "The Kaiser"? Who gave him that -- some dumb culture-neutered American, just because the simpleton thinking goes, "Ralf is German, and what's the first thing I can think of that's also German -- yeah-yeah-yeah, let's call him that!"? So, in that dumb culture-neutered vein, because he's French, should we start calling Stephan Cohen, "Stephan 'Eiffel Tower' Cohen"? <smacks forehead with palm> :thud:

Who thinks of this crap? Honestly, I think the player him/herself should have a say in these nicknames as well. I'm not so sure Ralf likes being called "The Kaiser," and I'm sure Corey would rather be called by his real name -- he'd want his real name to have meaning (or to earn it, in time), not some dumb moniker he got tagged with.

JMHO. Sorry if it stings for the cheerleaders in our readership,
-Sean

Sean,

Did you get tagged with a bad nickname? I don't know you, or that much about you other than I like reading your posts. But I do hope they didn't tag you "The Labrodoodle" or something. I agree with you on the Souquet, Orcullo and Feijen nicknames. But I think there are some good ones out there, too. The Magician, The Barber, The Smooth Criminal, Captain Hook and Fireball, to name a few favorites. But like with anything involving nicknames there are bound to be some duds. The first person to use one typically sets that person's nickname for better or worse. It seems like Shaq is the only person who can willingly change his nickname on command, unless you count Sean Combs/Puff Daddy/P. Diddy/Diddy/whatever he calls himself now.

I don't think there is much we can do now, except try to give people without nicknames ones that amuse us. I for sure will be trying to find someone to call "Labrodoodle", unless you want it. But judging by your avatar pic, it doesn't seem to fit you. I think we also need to find someone we can call "Comb-over" and "Raggedy Ann".

JohnnyShakes <----- named himself, before someone stuck me with something worse.

P.S.: As an "uncultured American, I believe we should nickname all French players either "Smelly Cheese" or "White Flag"
 
Yeah, nicknames in pool are incredibly stupid and completely unnecessary. It seems promoters are trying to make pool like professional wrestling only with more gheyness.

Yep, I hope they don't come up with nicknames for baseball, football and basketball players, then everything would be out of balance too. :cool:
 
Sean,

Did you get tagged with a bad nickname? I don't know you, or that much about you other than I like reading your posts. But I do hope they didn't tag you "The Labrodoodle" or something. I agree with you on the Souquet, Orcullo and Feijen nicknames. But I think there are some good ones out there, too. The Magician, The Barber, The Smooth Criminal, Captain Hook and Fireball, to name a few favorites. But like with anything involving nicknames there are bound to be some duds. The first person to use one typically sets that person's nickname for better or worse. It seems like Shaq is the only person who can willingly change his nickname on command, unless you count Sean Combs/Puff Daddy/P. Diddy/Diddy/whatever he calls himself now.

I don't think there is much we can do now, except try to give people without nicknames ones that amuse us. I for sure will be trying to find someone to call "Labrodoodle", unless you want it. But judging by your avatar pic, it doesn't seem to fit you. I think we also need to find someone we can call "Comb-over" and "Raggedy Ann".

JohnnyShakes <----- named himself, before someone stuck me with something worse.

P.S.: As an "uncultured American, I believe we should nickname all French players either "Smelly Cheese" or "White Flag"

Johnny:

Thank you for your candid post, and for the nice words about my contributions.

I highlighted in bold in your reply above the very problem we, the pool populace, have. Many times, nicknames are earned. In our early childhood/teenage school years, perhaps we "earn" nicknames we don't like. More often than not, we grow out of those nicknames or else the nicknames just fade away after the people who gave them "grow up." But if a nickname is really cool, and its owner likes it, it stays -- probably throughout life. And yes, I agree with you that some personalities have the incredible ability to change nicknames at will -- your examples being good ones, and "the artist formerly known as Prince" is another. In that case, it's a fad -- not actually something that "fits" or suits the person owning it.

If you must know, I have two nicknames that I "earned" growing up:

  • The Leinen Express
  • Squirrel
The first one came from my sprinting ability all throughout school -- I was one of the fastest runners in my area, and I won a lot of races. I actually like this nickname. Then post-school life happens, and the nickname kind of faded away. Then, one day, without the person even knowing, I was playing a tournament, in the zone, running racks without any kind of deliberation whatsoever, and this person said "man, we should start calling you 'The Leinen Express'!" I hadn't heard that nickname in years, and let me tell you, it brought back memories.

The second nickname I'm not sure I'm fond of. It started in my Navy years when I was a front-line 6-string bassist in a progressive rock band that played in/around the Norfolk, VA area, and I was in a bass solo. Someone -- I don't know who -- coined the term "squirrel" because he said that my fretting hand (left hand) looked like a squirrel scurrying up and down a tree. That was the first time I'd heard it, and I was scratching my head until someone explained it to me. I went, "feh, ok." I started to get introduced as "The Squirrel" on stage. Then this nickname somehow made its way onboard my ship (my shipmates started calling me this), partly because of my onstage name, and partly, well, in my early 20s, I admit I was a bit "squirrely." (But hey, aren't we all in some way/shape/fashion in our early years, that is until life has its way of wisening us up over time?)

What's my point? Nicknames should be earned, not given. And especially not in an "omigod omigod omigod, we *have* to think of *something* to call him/her!" If nothing fits, why think of something stupid or demeaning? (Or worse yet, a nickname that makes the nickname giver look stupid or culturally ignorant?) Why must we "force" a nickname as you mention above?

Anyway, that's just my $0.02 -- may not be worth even that,
-Sean
 
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