Return of the Road Player

mikeyfrost

mikeyfrost

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I got to thinking recently with the rise of Dippy and the return of the suckers that this will ultimately lead to one thing and one thing only....The return of the road player.

Yes, I think in 2011 all that free information that people were just spewing left and right people will be a little more tight lipped about it. Only will tell there friends and people they make money with. I feel like it's cut throat out there now, this might be a good thing.

The return of taking the rail off is back strong. People know, they don't want to accept it but they know when they get taken off and deep down they respect the hustle of it all because that's what they do or that's what they wanna be.

I watched the TAR stream and to me the message I took away from it was simple, it ain't bout skill it's about the money. You can get action with anyone if your bank roll is long enough. You can get whatever spot you want. I think the setup games are back. Pay your tolls.

Bottom line I think the hustle is back in pool now. I know regular guys that won't play on streams, I think we will see more of that. You don't see people posting anymore on how they would match up with someone, there's a good reason for that.

You heard it from Frosty, 2011: Year of the Road Player
 
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You really think 1 guy splashing in the pool will rejuvenate going on the road ?
I hope you are correct, I love to watch good matches and great players, I just don't see how anyone can travel to a place and within 5 minutes everyone knows within half a ball how they play and the hustler has no idea that there aren't 5 people there who can rob him.
 
Frostradamus is on the record folks! The hustle is back in vogue and opportunity on the road will soon abound!

That's some heavy lead there... :( :mad:

BTW, how'd you fare overall in your DCC bets? :eek: :wink: :wink:

This is an interesting prediction.
 
I'm with you on that Frosty . If it weren't for all the players that couldn't back up their game with more then their mouth, then backroom pool would still be paramount that's true to the game. To take it on the road and still make it from city to city is what it takes to be a true shooter, not "I made such and such" at this tournament. It's the love of the game that keeps me going, not so much the skill. It's the hunger for the next win that separate's the winner's from the loser's.
 
Road Players

I been playing pool for a living since I was 14yrs., I'm 52 now , been on the road ever since, some say I been a roadie for 2 , 5 maybe 10 yrs, hell I been doing it 38yrs., :eek: thats right, it ain't how ya play it's how ya match up!

There's money everwhere to be won playing pool if you know where to look!, and you do not have to screw anybody to get it, or at least I don't, never have.

Small change add's up, be a locksmith manager, big money ain't worth squat if you can't hold on to it, money hits my hands it will rust up before it leaves them.


Management, Management, Management!!!!!!!!!!!!..Long live the Road Player:smile:


David Harcrow
 
catpool9 said:
I been playing pool for a living since I was 14yrs., I'm 52 now , been on the road ever since, some say I been a roadie for 2 , 5 maybe 10 yrs, hell I been doing it 38yrs., :eek: thats right, it ain't how ya play it's how ya match up!

There's money everwhere to be won playing pool if you know where to look!, and you do not have to screw anybody to get it, or at least I don't, never have.

Small change add's up, be a locksmith manager, big money ain't worth squat if you can't hold on to it, money hits my hands it will rust up before it leaves them.


Management, Management, Management!!!!!!!!!!!!..Long live the Road Player:smile:


David Harcrow
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Very true. You can make more money playing out of your own pocket, matching up right, betting a lot of smaller bets every day and keep rotating where you play that most of the top players that get staked for a big game once or twice a month. If you know how to match up and save/invest your winings you will have more money than most big stakes gamblers at the end of the year. Johnnyt
 
I feel it in the air...less text messages being returned, no tourney photos, lot more average players are gonna wanna play. The road been dead so long maybe it's one big p*ssy waiting to get f*cked
 
mikeyfrost said:
.... maybe it's one big p*ssy waiting to get f*cked
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I met her once, think she was from Galesburg :eek:

Hope you are right Mikey, love when "they" (whomever THEY are) come thru town. We'll surly have some out-of-towner action this weekend at the RCO!!!
 
Road Player

catpool9 said:
I been playing pool for a living since I was 14yrs., I'm 52 now , been on the road ever since, some say I been a roadie for 2 , 5 maybe 10 yrs, hell I been doing it 38yrs., :eek: thats right, it ain't how ya play it's how ya match up!

There's money everwhere to be won playing pool if you know where to look!, and you do not have to screw anybody to get it, or at least I don't, never have.

Small change add's up, be a locksmith manager, big money ain't worth squat if you can't hold on to it, money hits my hands it will rust up before it leaves them.


Management, Management, Management!!!!!!!!!!!!..Long live the Road Player:smile:


David Harcrow
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Are you the guy they called Cat Head?
 
"Year Of The Road Player" works for me...Pool can always use the money flow. Mikey, your right about the allure of it all. You would be surprised how many people go off, just knowing they cant win, just for the sake of doing something.

I hope we see some traffic in our home room from the sudden rush.....PLEASE!!
 
mikeyfrost said:
I got to thinking recently with the rise of Dippy and the return of the suckers that this will ultimately lead to one thing and one thing only....The return of the road player.

Yes, I think in 2011 all that free information that people were just spewing left and right people will be a little more tight lipped about it. Only will tell there friends and people they make money with. I feel like it's cut throat out there now, this might be a good thing.

The return of taking the rail off is back strong. People know, they don't want to accept it but they know when they get taken off and deep down they respect the hustle of it all because that's what they do or that's what they wanna be.

I watched the TAR stream and to me the message I took away from it was simple, it ain't bout skill it's about the money. You can get action with anyone if your bank roll is long enough. You can get whatever spot you want. I think the setup games are back. Pay your tolls.

Bottom line I think the hustle is back in pool now. I know regular guys that won't play on streams, I think we will see more of that. You don't see people posting anymore on how they would match up with someone, there's a good reason for that.

You heard it from Frosty, 2011: Year of the Road Player
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How do you get around the economics? Years ago gas was $.50 a gallon Motel 6 was "actually" $6.00 to $9.00 a night. You could get a good breakfast for $.99 most anywhere and dinner for $2.95. Even the table time was so much cheaper if you won $40. or $50.00 you owed like $5.00 in time. People played $5.00 and $10.00 9-ball everywhere you went. You could walk in anywhere and get payed and the money you won was worth something in 1970's dollars.

The funny thing is, today they still play for $5.00 and $10.00 9-ball most places but the table time when you are done will be $45.00. A good breakfast will cost you $9.95 and dinner over $20.00. Unless you are sleeping in your car you will pay a minimum of $55.00 or more a night in most flea bag motels. Forget about the cost of travel, it will eat through your bankroll real fast. And again to repeat myself, in most hustle situations playing the general sucker you can't win much more today then you could win 35 years ago.

Honest to God, I would take off in my VW bus, be gone maybe two or three weeks and come home with $1500.00 to $3000.00 dollars from a brief trip of small time scuffling. This was at a time when the average guy was supporting a family on $200.00 a week (before taxes). Truth be told, hustling pool back then was actually a good paying job plus a lot of fun. I can't see how those days can possible come back, the numbers don't add up.
 
macguy said:
How do you get around the economics? Years ago gas was $.50 a gallon Motel 6 was "actually" $6.00 to $9.00 a night. You could get a good breakfast for $.99 most anywhere and dinner for $2.95. Even the table time was so much cheaper if you won $40. or $50.00 you owed like $5.00 in time. People played $5.00 and $10.00 9-ball everywhere you went. You could walk in anywhere and get payed and the money you won was worth something in 1970's dollars.

The funny thing is, today they still play for $5.00 and $10.00 9-ball most places but the table time when you are done will be $45.00. A good breakfast will cost you $9.95 and dinner over $20.00. Unless you are sleeping in your car you will pay a minimum of $55.00 or more a night in most flea bag motels. Forget about the cost of travel, it will eat through your bankroll real fast. And again to repeat myself, in most hustle situations playing the general sucker you can't win much more today then you could win 35 years ago.

Honest to God, I would take off in my VW bus, be gone maybe two or three weeks and come home with $1500.00 to $3000.00 dollars from a brief trip of small time scuffling. This was at a time when the average guy was supporting a family on $200.00 a week (before taxes). Truth be told, hustling pool back then was actually a good paying job plus a lot of fun. I can't see how those days can possible come back, the numbers don't add up.
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would have been fun to have been around back then.
i like to travel and play.
hard to do these days.
 
The hustling doesn't interest me that much. I miss the days when out of towners would show up at our hall for $1000 sets against whoever we could find that night. I miss the days when I could sit with the room owner taking half the action backing a local guy against a guy making the rounds across the country. Sadly, our last room is closing its doors in a few months so I won't get to do it again. Hopefully there will be more rooms and more action like that in AZ when we move there in a couple years.
 
JolietJames said:
The hustling doesn't interest me that much. I miss the days when out of towners would show up at our hall for $1000 sets against whoever we could find that night. I miss the days when I could sit with the room owner taking half the action backing a local guy against a guy making the rounds across the country. Sadly, our last room is closing its doors in a few months so I won't get to do it again. Hopefully there will be more rooms and more action like that in AZ when we move there in a couple years.
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Yup, when I was working in the pool rooms years ago, there was always action. Road agents would come in and get any action they wanted. It wasn't a "hustle" kinda thing, and most times win or lose, they asked around for the next place to try. As the counter guy I would call the other rooms and try to put the guy in action, or let them know a road dude was on the way trying to match up. Not to knock the guy, but to try to help them out with another game.

I think the main downfall of the road player is the net. It takes no time, like said before, to clock a guys speed. I guess players are going to have to learn new stalls, or other ways to get around the fact that everyone knows everyones speed. Or, as I have always liked, just step up, play, and see how it goes, and avoid all the barking.
 
Gerry said:
Yup, when I was working in the pool rooms years ago, there was always action. Road agents would come in and get any action they wanted. It wasn't a "hustle" kinda thing, and most times win or lose, they asked around for the next place to try. As the counter guy I would call the other rooms and try to put the guy in action, or let them know a road dude was on the way trying to match up. Not to knock the guy, but to try to help them out with another game.

I think the main downfall of the road player is the net. It takes no time, like said before, to clock a guys speed. I guess players are going to have to learn new stalls, or other ways to get around the fact that everyone knows everyones speed. Or, as I have always liked, just step up, play, and see how it goes, and avoid all the barking.
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The internet was an experiment for the road guys. They thought it was good advertising at first, there was a time on AZ about 2 years ago where people would make games fairly regularly. I think now people know it's bad business to broadcast too much info, I see all that information sharing is going to slow down. Nobody benefits from it at all, other than the cool guy who types the info up cause he knows things.

It's a cycle, everything gets repeated if you wait long enough. I seen some strange ass matchups as of late and that just makes me think more people are gonna throw that money in the ring to play. Plus action is action now, as long as it isn't a "title fight" worthy matchup I think people are more than happy to grind for the money. It's conditioning. Every body needs some sparring partners.
 
mikeyfrost said:
.... and the return of the suckers....
The return of taking the rail off is back strong. People know, they don't want to accept it but they know when they get taken off and deep down they respect the hustle of it all because that's what they do or that's what they wanna be.
Bottom line I think the hustle is back in pool now.
You heard it from Frosty, 2011: Year of the Road Player
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This is the only way to overcome the daily expense of the road, the hustle. Always was, always will be in the game, somewhere.
:p
 
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