Trouble with Kamui tips?

[supergreenman]

I have used these tips for over a year with no problems at all. I have one on my Tascarella playing cue since last March and it hasn't glazed over, changed shape, or caused miscues. Again, I rarely hit with both high speed and extreme english (14.1 and 8-Ball) but my experience is that these are some of the best tips ever made, and I have used the Mooris and Kamui reg extensively.

IMO, most miscues are stroke-related, not caused by tip properties.

I'm going to echo this post. I'm playing with a Kamui black hard (for about 6 months now) and have had no glazing over problems. My only issue with the tip is that it's the hardest leather tip I've played with. I have triangles on my other cue and shafts and they're much softer.

Being the cheapskate that I am, I won't be replacing this tip for a long time. At the rate it's wearing, it's probably going to be the longest I've had a tip on a cue for years. When I do replace it I'll be going back to Triangles. The Kamui was ok, but for the price I'll stick with Triangle.

 

[Jaden]

My bro said that Kamuis don't mushroom...

I didn't believe him. He put one on my mcdermott a S black kamui. It doesn't mushroom at all. I've broke with it etc... and nada.

no tip is magic, if you don't care for it, it's going to miscue. nothing you can do about that. I haven't miscued with mine except when I misstroke it...


Jaden

 

[Kamuitipsdotcom]

Curious question? How many of you clean off the tip before putting the cue away in your cue case? Do you clean it off on the carpet?

 

[Systim6]

I just put on a Kamui M black, and I break with my playing cue(around 26 mph), I haven't had any problems with glazing over or mushrooming (I did have this prob with moori M), haven't miscued once. And I can juice the ball pretty good with this tip. I usually use Triangle tips and to me the Kamui M is just about as hard as a Triangle. I don't know how how people think the softs are a hard tip.

 

[shayne87]

I had the same issues. Glaze over way too much. Now i use the old Moori's and problem solved.

Where do you get old Moori's?

 

[powerlineman80]

You just need to use there $25 chalk

I'm sure they'll find a way to make you buy their chalk to use on their tips before its over with. Not a bad decision considering pool players are crazy enough to buy $25 chalk.... Now time to "make" them pay!:thumbup:

 

[Roadking]

I play with a black soft & never had any problems. I don't break with it. Every tip's gonna glaze a lil over time. I use a willards dime shaper to scuff it up when needed.

 

[skip]

I have used Kamui soft & brown med. Never had a problem also use blue diamond chalk don't know if that matters. Might check your stroke. Could be an easy fix.

 

[jayman]

Did you read this thread?

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=231223

 

[powerlineman80]

I have used Kamui soft & brown med. Never had a problem also use blue diamond chalk don't know if that matters. Might check your stroke. Could be an easy fix.

Never used Kamui myself but I use a Moori Soft all the time w/no problems. I can put extreme english on the ball with not much chalk and rarely ever miscue and its generally my fault on the stroke rather the tip. Only bad thing is I have to get the mushroom out of the tip every few months. I almost have a dime shape to mine to top it off. So the least bit of mushrooming I can tell it and it drives me nuts. I never use a scuffer either as to me the Moori always holds the chalk well enough. I wouldnt trade my Moori Soft for anything, but would try anything else out. I miscue more with other layered tips (especially the mediums). To me I just seem to get more English, speed, and grip with my Moori soft than anything else layered or not. Just my worthless 2 cents:grin-square: Oh yea I use Master chalk..

 

[jayman]

I was told by a licensed installer if you are mis-cuing with a kamui flatten out the tip. Not made to rounded like normal. Made a huge difference with myself and also some higher quality players. Sat next to ebb and notices the same with his tip and don't even know if it is a kamui

O.k I have to ask, What is a "Licensed installer"? You don't need a license to install a tip on a pool cue. It's actually very easy if you have any mechanical aptitude.
Second, Who the hell wants to be stuck with a flat tip just to avoid miscues? There is a reason for a nice radius on a cue tip!
I guess the answer is install it, just cut the sides down, leave it flat on top, hit the flat part with some 2000 grit non radius-ed tool, and smear some chalk grease on it.....I just used a utility knife and removed the one I had. It seemed so much easier and as an added bonus it cured my "crappy" stroke as well.

 

[huysmall]

IMHO, there is misscue problem with Kamui tips for a couple of games. It's glazed over. But you can fix it easily with Kamui Gator Grip. It's cost $29.95

Huy Dang

 

[genomachino]

I've had a kamui tan on for about 4 months now. It finally got a little hard. I played alot with it.

It still plays well but I need to put amother one on soon.

My little buddy Jesse Engle told me to try a kamui black ss. He says they are the nutz. I don't know if he has ever tried the tan. I can't imagine playing any better than this tip has.

When they start to get hard you really need to change the tip. Right now it plays as good as any La Pro I ever played with and I'm talking about the best one.

If it gets hard it will start to miss cue like any other tip will. But until it does you do have the best playing tip in the world.

For the first 2 months it was almost impossible to misscue. And that builds confidence and trust in your equipment.

If it gets hard change the darn thing. Can't play with cement.............

 

[wontonny]

Curious question? How many of you clean off the tip before putting the cue away in your cue case? Do you clean it off on the carpet?

I do this sometimes when I don't have a napkin handy.

Also, when I miscue with my black medium lately little chunks have come off the edge of the tip. It could be a delamination? Can I do something to prevent this (other than miscue :grin?

 

[eeng168]

So let me guess, in order for the Kamui tip to work at its optimum performance, we have to invest in Kamui chalk and a Kamui scuffer.
Whats the scuffer equivalent to, 1500, 2000 grit sandpaper?

Players have been using the same chalk and tip tools for years without a hitch.

Is this your answer to a legitimate question regarding the glazing over of your tips? Basically, regular chalk and tips tools suck?

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

 

[Bigtruck]

What are Kamuis made from, pig hide?
So are many other tips. So what makes Kamui tips more sensitive than others?

So let me guess, in order for the Kamui tip to work at its optimum performance, we have to invest in Kamui chalk and a Kamui scuffer.
Whats the scuffer equivalent to, 1500, 2000 grit sandpaper?

Players have been using the same chalk and tip tools for years without a hitch.

Is this your answer to a legitimate question regarding the glazing over of your tips? Basically, regular chalk and tips tools suck?

Why not? Makes sense that the manufacturer would produce tools to get the maximum experience with their product.

Yes, John advertises some with me, but you can ask John. I don't send him a bill unless he asks for one. He has good stuff that I'm proud to represent it.

The Gator tool plate is made of stainless steel. Can't compare it to sand papers. It kinda reminds me of the surface of a gritty plant leaf or a cats tongue. I use a Black Soft. I will do a quick tip prep at the beginning of the day and that's it.

Can I live without the Kamui chalk? Of course. Do I want to? No. I did change my pre-shot routine from rubbing the chalk on every shot to inspecting the tip after every 5-6th shot or any extreme draw or spin shot.

PLUS......and to me here is a big one. John is one cool guy. Guys like John Bertone give pool a chance to make it. He thinks outside the box. He's very positive and upbeat. He's a bright star in the pool sky.

My suggestion. Give Kamui and John a fair test drive following the instructions. :shocked: . Yes I said it. We have to follow the manufacturer instructions.

I'm sure there are many good tips out there, but with John Bertone and Kamui Japan you get the whole package.

Ray

 

[risky biz]

So far, I stock several other brands that I would recommend to players before these two. Talisman soft, Wizard, Moori, Everest and Sniper.

Is that your order of preference or do you have equal regard for all of those?

Also- Talisman water buffalo or Talisman Pro pigskin?

 

[Tommy-D]

I too tried them out,as an experiment to know what I'm dealing with for customers.

I have installed a M Black on my Schon shaft,and so far I like it. It cut very clean while installing,looks great,and plays fine. I have not miscued with it yet,but it only has about 8 hours on it.

I do however have to disagree (respectfully ) with the assessment offered on the hardness. This tip is NOT hard,I feel it's about the same as a new,slightly thinned down hard Moori. This is also fairly close to the stock tips on brand new Schon shafts. Maybe the Kamuis are "denser" than typical layered tips.

A hard layered tip is the Talisman XH. Tommy D.

 

[risky biz]

Curious question? How many of you clean off the tip before putting the cue away in your cue case? Do you clean it off on the carpet?

I avoid making a comment when I see someone spinning a cue tip on the carpet. Does anyone think any "B" league baseball player would clean their bat with the carpet in your pool room?

 

[TheThaiger]

I just put on a Kamui M black, and I break with my playing cue(around 26 mph), I haven't had any problems with glazing over or mushrooming (I did have this prob with moori M), haven't miscued once. And I can juice the ball pretty good with this tip. I usually use Triangle tips and to me the Kamui M is just about as hard as a Triangle. I don't know how how people think the softs are a hard tip.

Yeah, I'm surprised at the hardness ratings bandied about. My black M feels a little softer than the triangles I've been used to, but plays like a tip should - terrible description, I know, but it feels authoritative.