Trouble with Kamui tips?

dyoung5 said:
When i first put on the ss black it was by far the best tip iv used. I never had prblems with misscues until now and i believe its because its wore down so much. but im pretty sure 75% of it is opperator error... for the record i am going back with the same tip;)
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I have to agree....."operator error". LOL. The indian not the arrow.... I've been using my SS on my new southwest for about 4 months and have had no issues at all. all tips glaze over, it is a burnishing effect from the cue ball, scuff something once in a while, i have 400 grit glued to a piece of wood for that...... cause if you miscue with this tip you have some severe stroke issues to work out...... :thumbup:
 
In my opinion the best tip ever was the first Moori. Moori III is like a piece of junk. Kamui is the best tip in the world right now. I installed over 100 tips and sold more. Not even one delaminated and I never saw one with mushroom. Here Kamui Black SS is most used.
 
Kamuitipsdotcom said:
Over time, any tip will eventually get glazed over, smoothed surface.

That comes from the inconsistencies of bad chalk. To fix this problem is to scuff this surface.

We realized this problem 2 years ago and looked at the tools used to maintain tips. The tools out there were too aggressive on the Kamui leather and we decided to make our own tool to solve this glazed problem.

The Kamui Gator Grip... Please watch this video.
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One will be suprised at how little leather the Kamui Gator Grip removes when scuffing. It is the world's finest scuffer, imo. I think your cue tips will last longer when you use a scuffer like the KGG as compared to some of the "rougher" scuffers.

JoeyA
 
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I made the mistake of buying a Brad Scuffer. I was thinking that this might be a remake of the original. You could shape the end of a piece of rebar with it. I looked at it and there was no way I was going to use that on any cue I own. Good for house cues maybe.

That said, I doubt there is anything better than the Willards shaper and the curved holder with a piece of sandpaper for shaping.
 
madfox said:
In my opinion the best tip ever was the first Moori. Moori III is like a piece of junk. Kamui is the best tip in the world right now. I installed over 100 tips and sold more. Not even one delaminated and I never saw one with mushroom. Here Kamui Black SS is most used.
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Same opinion here.
 
I completely switched to Kamui black SS. Although, the game is Russian Pyramid and the balls are much heavier. Everyone here who installed it on their Pyramid cue swear that they will never go back to moori, etc.

I had 1 tip separate after about 10 - 15 hours of play. But, I could have overheated it during installation when I burnished it... After that, no problems.
 
I play with 2 shafts z2 and ob1 both sporting a kamui black soft. they are great tips, and have incredible action(when they want to) almost seems like they have a mind of thier own, that can be attributed to the high pace i play at where im almost literally running around the table waiting for the cb to stop to take my next shot.

I clearly know its all in the user when i say "they have a mind of thier own" Just tonight i went to my hall with some diffrent drills and stroke methods to try out. I have been having the glazing problems with my z2 with the soft on it. Simple fix, sounds dramatic, shape it down a layer or 2, for me it seems like with my style, im pounding this thing down with some times silver cup grey masters just now am using blue diamond, i shaved off the top layer(theyr are 10 of them too tall anyway) and i tried some diffrent stroke teq. and cue control. I belive that all tips glaze, this may more than others, and the gator grip is very worth it, metal mesh that feels sticky when you just touch it. i was a non beliver of the tool as well.

To summarize if it is glazing, either use the gator grip and take it down a layer and try diffrent chalk. If that still doesnt work, think about your stroke, this is more than likely the culprate. Im not all bout the names, i just use what performs best for me, and kamui is the only tip (non-chalked) i can give english w/o miscueing. dont ask why i tried this.

If you are still having glazing/miscues, not scooping the ball off the table that is your stroke, you may have a faulty tip, or they just are not for you if so kamui has a large fan base and they will do just fine without your purchace of the next tip. And please just because they make 25dollar chalk dont stop buying thier other quality products, seems they got swept up in thier own popularity, and thought they could fool people, but when it drops down to 10 or so a cube you all will buy it just like blue diamond./nir/magic etc. to see how great it is, it even had to be tested independently to see if it was really chalk, so it seems diffrent.
my 2cents
jcv
 
You told me so.......

HollyWood said:
Don't even think twice- I have seen or installed thousands since 2005 and the tips have change some- offering more options. They are the best tips in the world bar none. and Kamui doesn't pay me a thing!!!!! If I counted the shafts with Kamui tips (different softness- over 25 shafts.
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Hollywood, you were 1000% right......

thanks geno............
 
My experience

I bought 4 Kamui Black S tips to try out. I gave 2 to my friend and I had the other 2 installed on my OB1 shafts. For the record, I've been playing with OB shafts for 7 years now using other soft/medium tips but primarily Mooris.

Both of my tips and my friends tips did in fact, glazed over and miscue exactly as everyone else describes. I don't want to have to scuff up my tip every round of a tournament. Or be constantly worried I'm going to miscue.

I was told to try the Kamui Black SS tips. It's been a few months but so far the SS tips are doing pretty good. I love how they hit and it's very consistent even when wearing down to the point of replacement. They do wear down/mushroom relatively quickly compared to a Moori. That being said, I like how they hit so I'll stick with them.

Just my .02.
 
Same thing. I have used one for almost a year, the last few months have been getting progressively worse as far as the glazing/required maintenance goes. I even tried taking it down to nickel radius thinking it was a stroke issue (tendinitis lately) but nope. It's the tip glazing over. Saying that it's poor quality chalk causing it is laughable coming from an outfit that just introduced $25 a cube chalk. I would bet it's something with the glue saturation on the "glue side" of the tip.
Chuck
 
poolhustler said:
I had the same issues. Glaze over way too much. Now i use the old Moori's and problem solved.
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I tried Kamui Soft on a couple of shafts and mine did the same thing. I use Sniper tips now and i've been pleased with them.

James
 
$25 chalk?

RiverCity said:
Same thing. I have used one for almost a year, the last few months have been getting progressively worse as far as the glazing/required maintenance goes. I even tried taking it down to nickel radius thinking it was a stroke issue (tendinitis lately) but nope. It's the tip glazing over. Saying that it's poor quality chalk causing it is laughable coming from an outfit that just introduced $25 a cube chalk. I would bet it's something with the glue saturation on the "glue side" of the tip.
Chuck
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Just bit the bullet and got a Kamui black soft and love it. I guarantee I will never pay any money for any chalk. Chalk is free! That's what people always say right after you miscue!! With all the talk of glazing over I am going to keep a sharp eye on my Kamui's surface. I was told to leave it be and don't mess with them, maybe use a pick if anything. I will say I have never used a Moori so can't make that comparison. Very happy with the Kamui.
 
BKB said:
I completely switched to Kamui black SS. Although, the game is Russian Pyramid and the balls are much heavier. Everyone here who installed it on their Pyramid cue swear that they will never go back to moori, etc.
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Apparently Pyramid is #1 game where I come from, and we had very good experience with Kamui Black. But SS might be way too soft for heavy balls. Our players rarely install S, let alone more soft. At the same time hardly anyone likes H hardness. That said, M is most type asked for.
At the same time, almost every tan Kamui (first generation) delaminated under Russian balls. So we fear to deal with Originals for Pyramid, even new ones.

On a side note, most popular and most stable tip for Russian Pyramid here is Moori M.

Blue Hog ridr, would love to learn more about the 5-layer tips you mentioned.
 
The mediums are not medium

Anunnaki said:
This is a very hard tip IMO. I would recommend a S or a cut down SS for something that plays in the medium range.
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Maybe someone soaked mine in milk, but these suckers are hard. That's not subjective, you can hear it when I strike the ball. I am disappointed after having spent that much to retip.
 
I got them on 2 of my shafts and miscue 4-6 times a night. About to cut them off. If I hadnt paid almost 100 on them I would. Like the feel of them. ust irritated with them. I have the Gator Grip and use it on them and it helps at first but I still miscue. Havent decided yet what I am going to do.
 
I was told by a licensed installer if you are mis-cuing with a kamui flatten out the tip. Not made to rounded like normal. Made a huge difference with myself and also some higher quality players. Sat next to ebb and notices the same with his tip and don't even know if it is a kamui
 
I have 6 shafts that have Kamui tips on them right now. Two are tan mediums that came with my Blackcreek shafts. Two on my Calonina Custom also tan mediums, one black super soft on an OB Classic, and one black soft on a Tiger X Ultra LD. I don't seem to have any miscuing problem on any of them. The two LD shafts I've had and played with for about 3-4 months now. The stock tan mediums on the Blackcreek I had for a few years now. I've only played with the Caronina Custom off and on for a couple of months, but I haven't experienced any glazing. Chalk seems to hold just fine. I do chalk after every shot though just out of habit.
 
Never had any trouble with glazing over. I've tried Kamui black SS, soft and medium and the Kamui tan medium. They all seemed to hold chalk very well, but I also would scuff them up a little every other day I played.

I just didn't like the hit of any of them and remain a Sniper fan to this day, but hit preference is completely subjective. Outside of the hit I liked everything about the tip. They install easily, look great, cut to shape on the lathe easy and hold chalk great.
 
Saturated Fats said:
I was about to order a few medium Kamui Blacks. A friend told me he was using one on a Predator and had a lot of trouble with miscues and keeping chalk on the tip. I asked him to bring it the next time we played so that I could see what he was talking about. I hit a few balls with it and it felt fine, but when you wipe the chalk off of the tip, it appeared to be polished. He said he would scuff the tip more than he had to do with others, but couldn't keep it from being too slick.

Anyone else have issues?
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i had the same thing happen to me. went through 3 of them before i quit using them
 
I've been having the same problem with my triangle lately. i think its because i've been breaking with it but i dunno.

also is there any difference between scuffing and using a tip pik ? ive used both and don't know if there's any advantage over the other
 
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