What woudl you do? One-pocket...

uwate said:
Kick the bottom side of 4. 4 moves up table. Cueball slides off the bottom side of two and goes one rail into the stack. Try the shot out.
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If you kick into the bottom side of the four, how is the cue ball going to hit the two and go into the stack?
It's got to either go down toward the corner pocket and probably scratch, or hit the side rail and come straight back across. If you kick at the four, you have to hit it soft and try to hit the 4 pretty full.
 
dabarbr said:
I like yor suggestion. Kicking at the 4 ball is risky plus you might tempt him to bank the 2 ball.View attachment 185622
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kick the 4, probably into the 10, leaving the CB as close as possible to the short rail. If I were your opponent I would think twice before trying to bank the 2. It's tough bank without a lot of reward. he couldn't hold the CB for
shots he would want on the 14 or 12 and the CB winds up lined up for balls in your pocket if he misses.

If the 10-9-8 combo line up for him, all bets are off. Also if your CB rolls down where the 11 is he may have an 8-13 combo- bank available. Lot to think about.
 
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My issue with going after the 11 and leaving the 4 is the next shot your opponent is tapping the 4 towards his hole and leaving the cue right back where it is now.

Kicking the 4 up table into the 11 should not leave a shot. If he banks at the 2 he sells out the rack. IMO.
 
cleary said:
Like what? What would you do?
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Oh IDK the kick shot to the the right side of the 11 ball??? WOW!!! That's a slick move if it didnt demand pinpoint cueball control...

The shot off the 15 to hide behind the cue ball behind the 4 is a good idea unless you dont freeze the cue to the 4. Even if you get the rock on the end rail you still leave the 2 ball as a ball to use as a combo ball to clear the balls on the rail near your pocket. Not good..


I think the best shot to shoot her in the thin it on the 2 ball and bring the cue ball on the side rail above the 4...

Again this is just my opinion and when it comes to one-hole im a nit :wink:
 
mattb said:
My issue with going after the 11 and leaving the 4 is the next shot your opponent is tapping the 4 towards his hole and leaving the cue right back where it is now.

Kicking the 4 up table into the 11 should not leave a shot. If he banks at the 2 he sells out the rack. IMO.
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The 12 and 13 are dead banks. If he sees the 2, the game is now heavily in his favor.
 
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C.Milian said:
The 12 and 13 are dead banks. If he sees the 2, the game is now heavily in his favor.
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I shot this a few times yesterday trying my way and did not get a feeling of a dead bank on the 12 or 13. i ended up with the cue ball close to the left rail below the first dot. I think there are several "correct" ways to go in this situation, but I only feel confident in a few.
 
just another option...

depending on skill level of both you could allways shoot the 5 ball up table and leave cue ball close to 15 not leaving him a straight shot at hole...would have a long rail bank maybe if not froze on 15 and might leave you a shot at your hole after long rail bank....just looking for other options....as you have had several that would work...
 
If he moves the 4 towards the end rail repositioning the cue ball ball on your rail, all the balls are now bankable. So, his best option since your rail balls are locked, is the 2ball carom to the 6. You can't give him that. He has nothing with the 4, well very little.

The most difficult thing about this shot is that its really easy to roll the cue ball. But because one pocket demands complete cue ball control, you're suppose to be able to feather the 15 and still get to the left side of the eleven.
 
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Lots of variables -
1 I see 14 object balls where is 15?
2 Paper rings on table-your home table?
3 Are you playing someone who IF you " sell the farm" could they capitalize?
4 Can you overcome taking fouls?
5 Do you really kick GOOD?
6 Can you THIN a ball without losing whitey?
7 If you lose are you still way up-or-are you all-in?
8 Are you sorry I answered your ? with more?:D
 
Richardson said:
kick 1 rail to the 11. just enough speed to make a good thin underneath hit. otherwise you take the foul and leave nothing also.
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I think this is the best percentage shot. Hitting under the 4 doesn't appear at all natural. If you try to spin the hit with inside by opening up the angle, and the CB picks up too much speed off the short rail, you risk a scratch.
 
RunoutJJ said:
I think the best shot to shoot her in the thin it on the 2 ball and bring the cue ball on the side rail above the 4...
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I think your shot leaves more offensive possibilities. I think you can sell out the 4 ball bank or the 14 ball bank with your shot.

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I really like this shot a lot more.

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If you get lucky, you can freeze em on the 4ball, if you under hit it, you dont leave them any bank that wouldn't sell the farm if they miss. Yes, you can leave a ball that can clear your balls out... but its better than leaving a free bank.
 
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