Three generations of top dogs in Denver -- who's the best?

9BallPaul

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Started watching Andy Hudson in the '60s, who was undisputed king in Denver. Unless, I guess, when Bill Stroud shot through town. Andy was a find player and proved the ruination of a few road men who mistakenly tangled with him. But he was a working stiff, not a pool pro, and bowling may have been as important to him as pool. Had he devoted his life to pool, who's to say?

Next came Danny Medina, indisputably the most notable of our recent Denver players. His reputation needs no elaboration here.

Now is seems that top man in town is Mark Haddad, who's made his mark in a few tournaments and, from the little I've watched him, knows his way around the table. Doesn't hurt that he has a gal pal named Melissa Owens, pro at a downtown Denver pool hall.

For those of you who've seen them, how do they stack up?
 
Started watching Andy Hudson in the '60s, who was undisputed king in Denver. Unless, I guess, when Bill Stroud shot through town. Andy was a find player and proved the ruination of a few road men who mistakenly tangled with him. But he was a working stiff, not a pool pro, and bowling may have been as important to him as pool. Had he devoted his life to pool, who's to say?

Next came Danny Medina, indisputably the most notable of our recent Denver players. His reputation needs no elaboration here.

Now is seems that top man in town is Mark Haddad, who's made his mark in a few tournaments and, from the little I've watched him, knows his way around the table. Doesn't hurt that he has a gal pal named Melissa Owens, pro at a downtown Denver pool hall.

For those of you who've seen them, how do they stack up?

Haven't seen Haddad play. Where does he usually play?
 
Off the top of my head

Haven't seen Haddad play. Where does he usually play?

Melissa is the house pro at Wynkoop Billiards downtown. But he can be found at Felts (I think) and sometimes at Hank's, besides Wynkoop. He also does the regional tournament scene, and won recently in Reno, as I remember.
 
Danny is IMO hands down the best player on that list.

Another champion that gets overlooked is Tony Piazza. Dude plays seriously great whenever he plays.

Some 'just under' players from a decade or so ago include Bill Skinner, Davey Gomez, Melvin Sharpe, Bill Meacham (Islanddrive on AZB), Henry Granas and Chuey Rivera.

I was in Denver from '89-'96 (mostly) and it was a great pool scene. Better than anywhere else I've lived although Wichita 97-99 and Atlanta in the mid nineties were pretty good. The current Bay area is a pool desert in comparison.

There were a lot of champions but what made it great was the fact that there were hundreds or thousands of players just below that. so you could always find someone wanting to challenge themselves (and you) for some cash as well as a lot of weekly tournaments. In those days you could play a different bar tournament every night of the week and not go back to the same bar for two months.

It was a great time.

~rc
 
Melissa is the house pro at Wynkoop Billiards downtown. But he can be found at Felts (I think) and sometimes at Hank's, besides Wynkoop. He also does the regional tournament scene, and won recently in Reno, as I remember.

I've been to Hank's a couple of times and like the GC's with the pretty tight pockets. Is Felt's worth checking out? I called about their Sunday tournaments and the guy said they've only had 6 or 7 players show up so they haven't had the tournaments.
 
There is a guy at Hanks that can beat anyone in Denver if he is hitting them good. His name is Chuck and today I watched him give Haddad all he wanted.
 
If anyone's interested in meeting up at Hank's during the day for some cheap 9-ball practice sets PM me.
 
I played Andy, Danny and Mark............

Started watching Andy Hudson in the '60s, who was undisputed king in Denver. Unless, I guess, when Bill Stroud shot through town. Andy was a find player and proved the ruination of a few road men who mistakenly tangled with him. But he was a working stiff, not a pool pro, and bowling may have been as important to him as pool. Had he devoted his life to pool, who's to say?

Next came Danny Medina, indisputably the most notable of our recent Denver players. His reputation needs no elaboration here.

Now is seems that top man in town is Mark Haddad, who's made his mark in a few tournaments and, from the little I've watched him, knows his way around the table. Doesn't hurt that he has a gal pal named Melissa Owens, pro at a downtown Denver pool hall.

For those of you who've seen them, how do they stack up?

Hi there,'

I played Andy back between 1978-81. I was living in Denver for awhile shooting pool. It was a great pool town back then with all kinds of action. Davey Gomez helped me find a place to stay and we went looking for action. I was the new kid on the block. I still consider Davey a good friend.

Danny Medina was always trying to get me to play but I couldn't do it. If i beat him I'd get no more action out there so i just bit my lip and kept quiet when Danny would be asking. I might have beat him but not sure. There was definitely no future in playing him at that period of time.

The last week I was there Andy Hudson came up to me and told me he wanted to play me some in on one of the back tables. he said he wanted to see what I had. I don't know how old he was at this time, around 83, but he seemed up there to me.

We started playing 9 ball for 20 a rack and were soon betting 40. I shot real good. I had Andy stuck about 600 when he said to me; Kid, your showing too much. He lost another 300 and quit. I told him it didn't matter what I showed because I was leaving in a few days. He just kind of smiled.
What a gentleman he was. Very classy guy. I think he was a little over his prime when we played though/

In the fall of 2009 I was in Denver doing my Perfect Aim lessons and had the honor of playing some with Mark Haddod. They had this table that was really shimmed and had a couple of rediculous tough pockets. That's the table Mark wanted to play on. I told him I would only play for 200. We played races to 9.

I won a set and Mark won a set. This guy can play. We were tied up 2-2 the next set. For some reason the guy at the desk put these 2 guys on the table next to us that couldn't talk english and had to stand inbetween their table and ours all the time with their mouths going about 200 miles an hour.

I missed a couple of shots and so did Mark. Finally I told him that we needed to move to another table or we should just quit. I like to have fun when I play. To me that was no fun. And these guys had no clue.

To this day I still don't know why they put them guys there. Alot of people were watching us play.

Anyway. Mark can play. He'll give just about anyone all they want when they come to Denver. He's also a pretty nice guy.

If Danny and Mark squared off when Danny was in his prime I don't really know who I would bet on. It would have been a good show.

Danny and myself never squared off. A few years later i tried to match up with him in Rochester, mn at a tourny and he turned me down. He must have not felt good or something because I know he was playing all weekend with someone.

And Danny if you read this i hope things are going well for you.

And Mark, just keep doing what your doing. Your one hell of a player.

Have a great day geno.............
 
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I have only been in Denver long enough to see Hadad and Danny play, and although Hadad is the better player at the moment, I would have to say that Danny took his game and accomplishments to a much higher level than anybody from Colorado ever has.
Keep in mind though that on the barbox, Hadad is pretty much untouchable here, but on the 9 footers, there are several Colorado players that could come out on top on any given day.
But, I also think that Colorado still lacks anybody that could do well on the national scale.
dave
 
I have only been in Denver long enough to see Hadad and Danny play, and although Hadad is the better player at the moment, I would have to say that Danny took his game and accomplishments to a much higher level than anybody from Colorado ever has.
Keep in mind though that on the barbox, Hadad is pretty much untouchable here, but on the 9 footers, there are several Colorado players that could come out on top on any given day.
But, I also think that Colorado still lacks anybody that could do well on the national scale.
dave

I don't know Haddad much, but I have seen Danny on the bar box a few times when he had his break working and I tell you NOBODY had to like it. He ran racks for hours on end.

~rc
 
Medina had a higher gear than the other two, bar table or big table. Danny was top ten speed once upon a time. Doubtful he could (or ever did) beat Andy Hudson playing One Hole though.
 
Started watching Andy Hudson in the '60s, who was undisputed king in Denver. Unless, I guess, when Bill Stroud shot through town. Andy was a find player and proved the ruination of a few road men who mistakenly tangled with him. But he was a working stiff, not a pool pro, and bowling may have been as important to him as pool. Had he devoted his life to pool, who's to say?

Next came Danny Medina, indisputably the most notable of our recent Denver players. His reputation needs no elaboration here.

Now is seems that top man in town is Mark Haddad, who's made his mark in a few tournaments and, from the little I've watched him, knows his way around the table. Doesn't hurt that he has a gal pal named Melissa Owens, pro at a downtown Denver pool hall.

For those of you who've seen them, how do they stack up?

I have known Danny sine we were both 18 years old. In those day he played the bar table only. It took a monster to come in and beat him. there wa a ring game every Wednesday night at Jays bar lo-do on Larimer. i have seen Danny in the game, Surfer Rod, Craig Stevens Denny Searcy, Joe Salazar, Ronnie Aleen, jimmy Spears, Richie Florence, nd the list goes on and on. It was a tough game, and often went on for 2-3 days. Danny lived for that game.
Around 1980 he made the switch and took to the big table. he never though lost that bar table mentality. If he could see it, it should fall.
i'll never for get the day he made the big jump. he was giving Art clemons the 7 ball for like 2-$300 sets playing races to 15 and he broke and ran 13 racks. he wanted to run the set out,, and badly. Some of he shots made were just incredible.
Right after he went on and incredible run winning most of what he entered. he went to Chicago and won the Willards tournament. That was a defining moment in his life and if asked now one of his favorite wins.
He and Andy had many battles but Andy was smart enough to never play him any 9 ball. he usually kept Danny on the snooker table.
Andy too was a good friend of mine and I loved the guy, but he never played 9 ball Danny's speed. All other games" Well a different story.
Paul is so right too Andy was one of the classiest men to ever don a cue. he was also as smooth as silk.
A couple of others often forgotten about around Denver were, Freddy "the jap" Ioki. He ws another class guy and played monster everything. Russ Trotter was another, but succombed to the bottle.
Al Hogue was another, but gave the game up in his mid 40's and never a real good gambler, but very talented.
WOW i miss all those guys and those days.
oh and Bill Barnes would stab me if I didn't mention his name, so I'll mention it, Bill Barnes.
A couple of other s who came to the area and very tough was Bill meachem,(island Drive) and Jr, Harris.
Like I said, I miss those days!!
 
Medina had a higher gear than the other two, bar table or big table. Danny was top ten speed once upon a time. Doubtful he could (or ever did) beat Andy Hudson playing One Hole though.
Definitley not, but not many others did either.
 
Guess I'm surprised that nobody mentioned Bill Stroud in the conversation. Although he lived in Aspen, not Denver, he showed up frequently at the old Fun Center. Played pretty spiffy, too.
 
Guess I'm surprised that nobody mentioned Bill Stroud in the conversation. Although he lived in Aspen, not Denver, he showed up frequently at the old Fun Center. Played pretty spiffy, too.

h didn 't really play that much, just sat there reading his book, but the man could play!!
 
h didn 't really play that much, just sat there reading his book, but the man could play!!

I saw him square off with Andy a few times playing 9-ball. I think Andy got weight in that game, and had to give it up in one-hole. But geez, I'm talking a friggin half-century ago!
 
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