Be a Bettter Banker

Patrick Johnson said:
Why not just post it here on the pool discussion forum where it can be, you know... discussed?

pj
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Because, Patrick, not all information is "public domain." While information can be "free," (meaning, no cost other than the effort to request it), not all information is "faceless" or "effortless." Some people want a face with the requester. I imagine that's the same case with Freddy the Beard's information for many years -- meaning, he probably gave away lots of these secrets when there was a "faced" student in front of him. That was before he published the information, of course, which gave him a much wider audience, and therefore a much wider lens of appreciation.

-Sean <-- who sees light from the prism from both sides
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Why not just post it here on the pool discussion forum where it can be, you know... discussed?

pj
chgo
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the hackers call it social engineering

makes it easier to farm the e-mail addys of known forum members

in it's most benign form you might get some pool related junk mail

in it's worst form the sky is the limit..
 
haters and spammers have a ball - banksecrets@jbideas.com REALLY WORKS. While the bots are spamming me I will be relieving someone of some cash the old fashioned way....by robbing them on the pool table using insider banking information!

Would love to receive your diagram if you're still handing it out.

Thanks!!!
 
softshot said:
the hackers call it social engineering

makes it easier to farm the e-mail addys of known forum members

in it's most benign form you might get some pool related junk mail

in it's worst form the sky is the limit..
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Wow, cynical much? I don't believe the OP is attempting to spam email addresses. Also, if you PM your email to him as he requested, it would not be displayed on the Internet for everyone to see.
 
good input always helpful sir

It is great to have guys on here who help each other enjoy the game. There is another negative thread on az today about another thing wrong with pool, and you have just cancelled it out my friend.
At one time I got out some graph paper and diagrammed a random bank shot and used all known banking systems I had seen. I then superimposed all the diagrams onto each other using different colored pens. The contact point on the rail was exactly the same for every system. Obviously adjustments would change that, like Grady Matthews' tip that you should aim one inch up on firmly shot banks. Feel and adjustment is a diff story...
 
better banker

thanks for the info,,, it is unique, however, it does not provide for a banking aim but more a way to hit the object ball fractionally, i.e., 1/2, 1/4, 1/3, 3/4, etc. Maybe I am missing something, but I fail to see where this will provide for improved banking capability?
 
CrossSideLarry said:
thanks for the info,,, it is unique, however, it does not provide for a banking aim but more a way to hit the object ball fractionally, i.e., 1/2, 1/4, 1/3, 3/4, etc. Maybe I am missing something, but I fail to see where this will provide for improved banking capability?
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What I got out of it was what you said, paired with the tip being offset more/less from center based on the fraction used. For a 3/4 (thicker) bank, you're offsetting your tip to the 1/4 of the CB to impart outside english.

I highly doubt Hal Houle passed this info as-is (offsetting with a straight cue) -- there's something missing. I don't have a table anymore (just sold it), so I cant test--- but, I would think if those are your tip offsets, you should try to pivot to center or start at center and pivot to those tip offsets.

Dave
 
SpiderWebComm said:
What I got out of it was what you said, paired with the tip being offset more/less from center based on the fraction used. For a 3/4 (thicker) bank, you're offsetting your tip to the 1/4 of the CB to impart outside english.

I highly doubt Hal Houle passed this info as-is (offsetting with a straight cue) -- there's something missing. I don't have a table anymore (just sold it), so I cant test--- but, I would think if those are your tip offsets, you should try to pivot to center or start at center and pivot to those tip offsets.

Dave
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Sounds like an approximation to achieve gearing english so that collision induced spin doesn't kill the bank.

If you use 1 mm of outside english for every 5 degrees of cut angle, you should get gearing. So for the example above, 30 degree cut ---> 6 mm of outside english, which is "about" a quarter of the CB radius.
 
Not Dead Ted said:
Sounds like an approximation to achieve gearing english so that collision induced spin doesn't kill the bank.

If you use 1 mm of outside english for every 5 degrees of cut angle, you should get gearing. So for the example above, 30 degree cut ---> 6 mm of outside english, which is "about" a quarter of the CB radius.
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Sounds right as far as it goes, but eliminating collision-induced spin doesn't eliminate OB variables. The presence or absence of either sidespin or rolling follow must be taken into account.

pj
chgo
 
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SpiderWebComm said:
What I got out of it was what you said, paired with the tip being offset more/less from center based on the fraction used. For a 3/4 (thicker) bank, you're offsetting your tip to the 1/4 of the CB to impart outside english.

I highly doubt Hal Houle passed this info as-is (offsetting with a straight cue) -- there's something missing. I don't have a table anymore (just sold it), so I cant test--- but, I would think if those are your tip offsets, you should try to pivot to center or start at center and pivot to those tip offsets.

Dave
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Hal spoke to me or I read a post of his {not on AZ} about this kind of thing some time ago. The op said he has tinkered with it a bit. There was no pivot involved at that time.
 
I do not harvest E Mail addresses, what a joke. But I do try to make this great game a little easier and more enjoyable for a few people if I can.
 
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