good visual for "quiet eyes" and focus

dr_dave said:
... only when a certain AZB user claims I'm a "D-player who can't draw his rock." :frown:

Thanks grasshopper. :thumbup:
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Do you have a link to your website? I don't see anything in this post? :D

I'm a D player when it comes to skipping rocks... I think 5 is my best, but its all about the equipment. :thumbup:
 
cookie man said:
I fail to see where the owls vision center is. Seems his eyes are too far apart.
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I would guess that the owl's vision center is exactly between his two eyes, as I suspect it is for many (if not most) pool players, regardless of which eye might be dominant or not; although, people can learn to play and adjust with their vision center anywhere, as long as it is placed consistently. For more info, see my August '11 Billiards Digest article dealing with sighting.

Regards,
Dave
 
I don't often play darts because I find it fairly boring. But on the rare occasion, I find this helps me. Deep focusing on a target. Pool is much different though. You gotta hit the ball straight to hit a target.
 
cleary said:
I don't often play darts because I find it fairly boring. But on the rare occasion, I find this helps me. Deep focusing on a target. Pool is much different though. You gotta hit the ball straight to hit a target.
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You gotta throw the dart straight. How different is it?

pj
chgo
 
dr_dave said:
I would guess that the owl's vision center is exactly between his two eyes, as I suspect it is for many (if not most) pool players, regardless of which eye might be dominant or not; although, people can learn to play and adjust with their vision center anywhere, as long as it is placed consistently. For more info, see my August '11 Billiards Digest article dealing with sighting.

Regards,
Dave
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"any sighting line that is not parallel to the desired aiming line of the shot (i.e., the line of the cue) is
problematic and should probably be avoided. Note that in Diagrams 1a-1c, the sighting line is in fact parallel
to the aiming line for all three alignments."

Dr. dave, this is from your article. Are you saying your sighting line should always be parallel to your cue ? Did you do any camera tests to confirm this info?
 
dr_dave said:
Here's a good visual to remember when you are trying to develop and maintain focus and When you watch the video, stare at the bird's eyes!
Check it out,
Dave
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As we all know by now the "Quiet Eye" is extremely important and Dr Dave has added a way for players to remember just how important it is for consistency.

A year or so ago a neurophysiologist in the journal "Science" (I think his name was Tisen) presented a study in which it was found that attaching emotions to a behavior helps to remember the behavior. This intense video of determined quiet eye focus on the prey is the type of focus we would all like to have. It will stick with me for years to come.

If I can consistently focus like that owl I will always get the prey (OB and position). A great image and Dr Dave strikes again.

BTW if you think that emotions do not contribute to memory retention think about your buddy who had that horrible auto accident 25 years ago. He can remember every detail like it was yesterday.
 
JoeW said:
As we all know by now the "Quiet Eye" is extremely important and Dr Dave has added a way for players to remember just how important it is for consistency.

A year or so ago a neurophysiologist in the journal "Science" (I think his name was Tisen) presented a study in which it was found that attaching emotions to a behavior helps to remember the behavior. This intense video of determined quiet eye focus on the prey is the type of focus we would all like to have. It will stick with me for years to come.

If I can consistently focus like that owl I will always get the prey (OB and position). A great image and Dr Dave strikes again.

BTW if you think that emotions do not contribute to memory retention think about your buddy who had that horrible auto accident 25 years ago. He can remember every detail like it was yesterday.
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Well stated Joe.

Thank you,
Dave

PS: I will also remember that owl's eyes for a long time when I'm thinking about focusing and keeping my eyes and head still during a shot.
 
cookie man said:
dr_dave said:
I would guess that the owl's vision center is exactly between his two eyes, as I suspect it is for many (if not most) pool players, regardless of which eye might be dominant or not; although, people can learn to play and adjust with their vision center anywhere, as long as it is placed consistently. For more info, see my August '11 Billiards Digest article dealing with sighting.
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"As Mike Page points out in NV B.3, any sighting line that is not parallel to the desired aiming line of the shot (i.e., the line of the cue) is
problematic and should probably be avoided. Note that in Diagrams 1a-1c, the sighting line is in fact parallel to the aiming line for all three alignments."

Dr. dave, this is from your article. Are you saying your sighting line should always be parallel to your cue?
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No. I am saying that a sighting line not parallel to the aiming line is potentially problematic.

The cue is in-line with the aiming line only for a center-ball hit, for which that quote applies. When English is used, and one adjusts the line of the cue to compensate for squirt and swerve (either before or during the stroke), the cue will no longer be parallel to the aiming line, but the quote doesn't apply to this case.

cookie man said:
Did you do any camera tests to confirm this info?
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No. The statement is based only on reason.

Also, you should have included the entire sentence in your quote. I've added the beginning above (in bold) and here:

quoted from my August '11 Billiards Digest article dealing with sighting:
As Mike Page points out in NV B.3, any sighting line that is not parallel to the desired aiming line of the shot (i.e., the line of the cue) is problematic and should probably be avoided.​

See Mike's video and the illustrations and explanations in my article for more information.

Regards,
Dave
 
dr_dave said:
No. I am saying that a sighting line not parallel to the aiming line is potentially problematic.

The cue is in-line with the aiming line only for a center-ball hit, for which that quote applies. When English is used, and one adjusts the line of the cue to compensate for squirt and swerve (either before or during the stroke), the cue will no longer be parallel to the aiming line, but the quote doesn't apply to this case.

No. The statement is based only on reason.

Also, you should have included the entire sentence in your quote. I've added the beginning above (in bold) and here:

quoted from my August '11 Billiards Digest article dealing with sighting:
As Mike Page points out in NV B.3, any sighting line that is not parallel to the desired aiming line of the shot (i.e., the line of the cue) is problematic and should probably be avoided.​

See Mike's video and the illustrations and explanations in my article for more information.

Regards,
Dave
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So you write instructional pool articles based on opinions without any real factual information, and you do diagrams with information that is only good on center ball hits( though I didn't see this fact pointed out in your article). Very interesting.
 
dr_dave said:
The cue is in-line with the aiming line only for a center-ball hit, for which that quote applies. When English is used, and one adjusts the line of the cue to compensate for squirt and swerve (either before or during the stroke), the cue will no longer be parallel to the aiming line
As Mike Page points out in NV B.3, any sighting line that is not parallel to the desired aiming line of the shot (i.e., the line of the cue) is problematic and should probably be avoided.​

See Mike's video and the illustrations and explanations in my article for more information.

Regards,
Dave
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So using english is problematic and should be avoided.
 
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