Blue Diamond Chalk vs: Kamui Chalk

nancewayne

nancewayne

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I think it is fair to say that both of these chalks work better (all things considered) than the basic chalk universally used. That being said, Blue Diamond Chalk retails around $3-$4 dollars a piece. Kamui Chalk retails around $25-$40 a piece. Which chalk is superior and which is a better value (again, all things being considered) ?

Also, since both Blue Diamond and Kamui chalk are more fine and stick to the tip more, can you over chalk either/both of them and have a negative effect on spin ?
 
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if the money part is not considered i think the kamui is better, i have both in my bag .
blue diamond and nir chalk is better than masters . kamui is better than blue diamond.
u just need to try it . its only the price of a nice meal . just stop at mcdonalds instead..


carl
 
Just keep tellin yorself that

kamooi & b.d. Are better than masters.

Some day it will come tru.

SLIM
 
economic view , would tell me that Blue Diamond is the better buy. Its hard enough for Joe player, to spend $3-4 dollars on a cube of Blue Diamond, let alone getting him to cough up $30-40 for Kamui. If you can handle the price, buy it, if not, the old Master chalk still works. I do like Kamui chalk thou.........OTB
 
Has anyone noticed that the Kamui leaves blue marks that are a little difficult to remove on the cue ball, or any ball you happen to hit with the tip after you've chalked whatever tip you are using???
 
Honestly i cant tell the difference between blue diamond and masters. :shrug:
 
Value

Last year I paid $23 for a few boxes of Blue Diamond chalk off of ebay and I play everyday and still have unused chalk. I think that bd is a better bargain when you consider that no matter how hard you try to keep an eye on your chalk someone will still manage to pick yours up and use it or walk off with it.
 
i have finally tried the kamui and i can say this. it is like all of the descriptions. very thick, almost like make up. blue diamond not as thick, masters not as thick as b.d.
so how it breaks down for me - masters, i make sure i chalk after every shot. b.d. every few shots, kamui even more shots between when i'll chalk. i can justify the price difference between masters and b.d. because 12 pieces of of b.d. lasted me a little over a year where as masters i tear through. so i spend about the same over a year. i can not justify the price of the kamui to my self so i won't buy it. i also noticed no difference in the amount of spin or control from pre-flag, post flag or any other flag or color masters vs. the b.d. or kamui. if you can stroke a cue you can get spin using any chalk. i do use kamui black soft tips because i like the way they have held up for me and i find i have had no problems with them in regards to mushrooming or glazing over. that being said they are my first foray into different tips. until i tried them i had only used lepro so i have no frame of reference to compare them against other tips, i just know they are better than lepro.
 
kamui for me

I bought a number of pieces of the Kamui chalk when it came out and have been very impressed with it. I normally re-chalk only in between games, and often not even then. After playing for a couple of hours, my shafts (break and playing), bridge hand and table are all noticeably cleaner than when using Master, which I used almost exclusively for the last twenty years. I have tried BD, but didn't find it to be much better, or different, than Master.

With the way the Kamui chalk has performed for me over the last couple of months, I have no intention of going back to Master or any other regular chalk. I think the stuff is great, and well worth the price, when I consider how much cleaner my equipment is after each use, aside from how well it works on my tips.

Ryan
 
I use Blue Diamond but do just fine with Masters also. I personally do not like pasty chalk, some people do but not me. I like how people say you can shoot 50 shots with the stuff before miscuing, how about a pre-shot routine and stop being lazy, chalk up before every shot or atleast the ones where your going to juice the ball up. :rolleyes:
 
calcwby4u said:
Has anyone noticed that the Kamui leaves blue marks that are a little difficult to remove on the cue ball, or any ball you happen to hit with the tip after you've chalked whatever tip you are using???
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I was specifically looking for that and I did not find that the chalk left marks that are hard to remove.

While I was testing it this afternoon I used a CueSight training ball and each time I wiped the chalk off the ball easily and it left no trace. Conversely the same ball has marks from Masters that I have to use soap and water to clean from the ball.
 
Kamui>Blue Diamond>Master

I hate Master chalk, love Kamui but it is a little pricey. I've been using Blue Diamond for a while now and find that it's a good in-between, not as expensive and works much better than Master.

Chalk gets all over the cue ball no matter what brand you use... just wipe it off before you break each game and it's not a big deal.
 
Here's my take. There is more to performance than how often you have to chalk and how seldom you miscue. But make no mistake - Kamui doesn't ELIMINATE miscues and it doesn't claim to. No chalk will.

The Kamui chalk is good stuff. By all accounts it stays on longer so, if you don't want to, you don't have to chalk on every shot. The biggest concern with the Kamui is just as it adheres to the tip better, it will transfer to the cue ball what does transfer to the cue ball also adheres to it pretty well. This can cause an increase in "skidders".

As for value, that's up to you. $25+ means more to some people than others, which is completely understandable. Frankly I doubt the price point of Kamui has as much to do with cost as it does with Kamui's marketing strategy. It is probably the price point (and short availability) of this chalk that has created more buzz than anything else. I have to give them credit. When a cube of Kamui is spotted in the pool hall it gets more attention than if someone walks in with a Szam.

I've tried it, but I'm not a buyer. I'll stick to BD. Any miscues I've had with BD has been caused by either tip problems, stroke issues, or not chalking.
 
calcwby4u said:
Has anyone noticed that the Kamui leaves blue marks that are a little difficult to remove on the cue ball, or any ball you happen to hit with the tip after you've chalked whatever tip you are using???
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^+1 i have that experience too and like after playing pool the table got a full of chalk everywhere:frown:
 
I have to say Kamui Chalk is by far the best chalk in the world. Stays forever, grips very, very well the cue ball and you don't get dirty chalking the tip.
I had my own testing and one chalking stayed for 3-4 racks or 27 consecutive power draw shots. I am simply amazed. I am very curious how much I can use one piece.
Of course if you play once a week there is no need for it. But if you want to improve your game, try it.

PS : about preshot routine, I am a fast guy so I love speeding up :)
 
Chi2dxa said:
I think that bd is a better bargain when you consider that no matter how hard you try to keep an eye on your chalk someone will still manage to pick yours up and use it or walk off with it.
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^^^ This. There are some people who just can't comprehend the idea that you brought your OWN chalk from home.

Also, I accidentally bumped a brand new piece of BD into the side pocket of a coin-op table, and I was heartbroken. Having something like that happen with a piece of Kamui would have had me taking the table apart, probably.
 
I've tried them all, and personally I prefer leaded Master preflag green. I don't like the creamy texture of Kamui or NIR, and the change of not chalking in my preshot routine plays with my head. I can shoot over 60 shots without chalking using Master blue, but I prefer to chalk before each shot. I can spin the cueball just fine, and when I don't, it's not the chalk's fault, it's my stroke...same with miscues. I really don't expect any chalk to improve my stroke or my game. I wish it were magic but it's not, just different and expensive. If it's magic for you...that's cool.
:p

edit to respond to nymphfisher: I used it for about 12 hours total, still have it in my bag.
 
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Fast Lenny said:
I use Blue Diamond but do just fine with Masters also. I personally do not like pasty chalk, some people do but not me. I like how people say you can shoot 50 shots with the stuff before miscuing, how about a pre-shot routine and stop being lazy, chalk up before every shot or atleast the ones where your going to juice the ball up. :rolleyes:
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Same here Lenny. I have some BD in a leather pocket chalker and lately I just haven't felt like digging it out of my bag so I just grab two cubes of Masters out of the bowl.
 
I've always believed that Chalk should never change your routine before each shot.But even watching Mika demonstrate Kamui chalk he still chalked after each and every shot.I gaurantee if it was the last rack of the WPC you would chalk every shot and it wouldn't matter if it was Kamui chalk or School chalk.If I use mostly middle ball and natural angles I might never chalk if I wanted to, cause I've practiced for hours never chalking once and not miscuing but would never do this in a money game or tournament.This is brain washing at its highest form.I'm not saying the chalk is bad,but to me if the pros who have endorsed it still chalk after each shot tells me they haven't bought into the hype either.
 
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