Does Thorsten Hohman gamble?

Gambling

I've always been of two minds about this gambling.

Joe, Fred, and Steve Davis were dead set against gambling...but between
them they have over 30 world titles at snooker and English billiards.
...they all had lots of heart.

On the other hand, Ben Hogan felt your game wasn't worth much if you
couldn't play for money.

Homan and Souquet don't gamble but they play the game like men.

I think gambling is for people that like gambling.

regards
pt...<..who gambles, but won't turn down a cinch
 
pt109 said:
I've always been of two minds about this gambling.

Joe, Fred, and Steve Davis were dead set against gambling...but between
them they have over 30 world titles at snooker and English billiards.
...they all had lots of heart.

On the other hand, Ben Hogan felt your game wasn't worth much if you
couldn't play for money.

Homan and Souquet don't gamble but they play the game like men.

I think gambling is for people that like gambling.

regards
pt...<..who gambles, but won't turn down a cinch
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You are so right about Souquet and Homan playing some great great pool, as if they were great gamblers is how id maybe put it. So, I tend to agree with B hogan, but these 2 seem to prove me wrong.

I personally think gambling, when talking about good players, is for people who like money though. IF you don't like money, ok, not much to say. But if you do like money, and don't gamble, it is highly likely you arent very good at it imo. That whole "i NEVER gamble" bs is usually (NOT ALWAYS) a blanket statement that will get a guy out of tough spots he obviously doesn't want to be in for whatever reason.
 
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JoeyA said:
Like others have mentioned, every time they enter a tournament and spend money to go to a pool event, they are "betting" that they will "win" money by beating other contestants. It may only be their entry fee and expenses that they are risking but they are putting up money to win money and that's the bottom line.
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I would not be at all surprised if Thorsten Hohmann is not paying anything out of his own pocket when he plays in major tournaments. He has some pretty decent sponsors and given his track record I would guess they cover his travel, hotel, and entries as part of his sponsorship deal.
 
The Chinchilla said:
If you don't gamble you are reduced to playing races to 11 or thereabouts your whole life. You can be as great as you want, but the true test of your skill to REALLY defeat a player will never be known. If that's how you want your legacy to be, and you are fine with it, that is ok of course. But if he doesn't gamble, has he ever really beaten anybody? The answer is a plain and simple no -- unless somebody puts up a "hong kong" style race to 120 or something like that of course, which probably has happened for him?

I also don't believe he has never gambled, but that's conjecture.
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I agree 100%. Sure he has won 50k in the last 2 weeks, but has he ever beaten anybody for the cheese? I dont think so.
I think your concept also applies nicely to other sports. Even though Djokovic might be the best "tournament player" out there, I don't see him
winning too much gambling against proven winners. Lets hope he can live with his legacy. I surely couldn't.
 
Not at all, I have seen him play... Gambling is for gamblers, what is interesting is how many so called gamblers can't play and lose a lot.

In our local place you have a few guys that can play but they never play each other, the action is to tough, so are they gamblers, if they were wouldn't they want to match up with each other for the money?

I think they are looking to steal... JMO
 
freedomfry said:
I agree 100%. Sure he has won 50k in the last 2 weeks, but has he ever beaten anybody for the cheese? I dont think so.
I think your concept also applies nicely to other sports. Even though Djokovic might be the best "tournament player" out there, I don't see him
winning too much gambling against proven winners. Lets hope he can live with his legacy. I surely couldn't.
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Poor Djokovic......Only won something over 20 million US dollars plus what ever endorsements that come his way.

But your "legacy" must be much better to look back on.

Are you f'n nuts?

There's a great line in the movie The Color Of Money that fits you; see if you can find it.
 
What a joke talking about legacies, some of the best players were not known to be gamblers and there legacy as being the best are well secured. Look at Mosconi for example. :smile:
 
freedomfry said:
I agree 100%. Sure he has won 50k in the last 2 weeks, but has he ever beaten anybody for the cheese? I dont think so.
I think your concept also applies nicely to other sports. Even though Djokovic might be the best "tournament player" out there, I don't see him
winning too much gambling against proven winners. Lets hope he can live with his legacy. I surely couldn't.
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Are you just randomly pushing buttons? Please honor us with a tad of thought.

Please define ' ever beaten anybody for the cheese?'? Is this not good enough?
2006 Winnings: 394,025


2006 Tournament Results:
Payout Place Event
$8,000 1st place Turning Stone Classic VI
$450 9th place Florida Pro Tour
$5,000 2nd place UPA Pro Tour Championship
$2,000 9th place Enjoypool.com 9-Ball Championship Open Division
$13,000 1st place World 14.1 Straight Pool Championships
$350,000 1st place IPT North American Open Championship
$5,000 121st place IPT World Open 8-Ball Championship
$7,000 3rd place World Pool League
$2,000 33rd place World Pool Championship
$1,575 7th place Florida Predator Open

And who the FLICK is gonna beat Djokovic today? Betting a few K isnt gonna enable a club pro to find much resistance to anything....except his own retirement savings.
 
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Just as a few have said - gambling is for people who like to gamble. To question Hohmann's heart is ridiculous...let's see: two time world 14.1 champion, u.s. open 9 ball champion, world 9 ball champion and who knows how many German and European titles. The guy's already a lock for the HOF and he's only 32 years old. Besides who would really want to gamble with him even if he did gamble? A couple of filipino and taiwanese players who specialize in 9 ball and even then I'm not sure who the favorite is. Hohmann's best game is 14.1 and I'm sure no one in the world besides maybe Ortmann would want to play him in a long match (500-1000 points).
 
Black-Balled said:
Are you just randomly pushing buttons? Please honor us with a tad of thought.

Please define ' ever beaten anybody for the cheese?'? Is this not good enough?
2006 Winnings: 394,025


2006 Tournament Results:
Payout Place Event
$8,000 1st place Turning Stone Classic VI
$450 9th place Florida Pro Tour
$5,000 2nd place UPA Pro Tour Championship
$2,000 9th place Enjoypool.com 9-Ball Championship Open Division
$13,000 1st place World 14.1 Straight Pool Championships
$350,000 1st place IPT North American Open Championship
$5,000 121st place IPT World Open 8-Ball Championship
$7,000 3rd place World Pool League
$2,000 33rd place World Pool Championship
$1,575 7th place Florida Predator Open

And who the FLICK is gonna beat Djokovic today? Betting a few K isnt gonna enable a club pro to find much resistance to anything....except his own retirement savings.
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add sarcasm font to my previous post and reread ;). just pointing out how fn ridiculous chinchillas post was, imo.
 
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Gambling

Both Souquet and Hohmann probably gambled a little bit when they first started out, and then decided it wasn't for them, but both are tournament proven, and have had as much pressure in tournaments as there is in gambling. LOL, I might want to play them in a tournament, but I would not want to gamble with either one.
 
Snapshot9 said:
Both Souquet and Hohmann probably gambled a little bit when they first started out, and then decided it wasn't for them, but both are tournament proven, and have had as much pressure in tournaments as there is in gambling. LOL, I might want to play them in a tournament, but I would not want to gamble with either one.
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How typically American.

Hohmann no gamble.
No now.
No before.
No later.
No shit.
No dat.
 
freedomfry said:
I agree 100%. Sure he has won 50k in the last 2 weeks, but has he ever beaten anybody for the cheese? I dont think so.
I think your concept also applies nicely to other sports. Even though Djokovic might be the best "tournament player" out there, I don't see him
winning too much gambling against proven winners. Lets hope he can live with his legacy. I surely couldn't.
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Djokovic Just won 10.6 million his last couple tournaments. You couldn't live that legacy. Gimmie a Freaking break. You might have made the most stupid reply in AZB history. Seriously!
 
DRW said:
Djokovic Just won 10.6 million his last couple tournaments. You couldn't live that legacy. Gimmie a Freaking break. You might have made the most stupid reply in AZB history. Seriously!
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guys, im sorry that i was sarcastic on my first post. you've obviously not read the whole thread since i explained already. i thought "sure he's won
50k but did he ever beat anybody for the cheese?" and the whole djokovic thing was a giveaway. but apparently i was wrong.
 
freedomfry said:
guys, im sorry that i was sarcastic on my first post. you've obviously not read the whole thread since i explained already. i thought "sure he's won
50k but did he ever beat anybody for the cheese?" and the whole djokovic thing was a giveaway. but apparently i was wrong.
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Oh, you got us good;):rolleyes::grin:
 
I had heard a story once that the line on Thorsten was something like 50:1 at the World Championships (when he first came on the scene) & that he placed a $2-3k wager on himself & WON. Something like a $150,000 pay day or thereabouts.

Could someone corraborate or add details?
 
Didn't Fats criticize Mosconi for not gambling?

I thought I remembered Fats saying that Mosconi was not as good of a Gambler,as he was a Tournament Player? Was that type of accusation common in those days,for Great Champions that didn't have a reputation for gambling?
 
Most of the so called "gamblers" have backers so they aren't really gambling. A lot of the guys who do gamble their own money are frequently broke.

If Thorsten wanted to gamble he would have a line of people willing to back him.
 
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