Again 8 ball sucks

The solution is don't play bar pool.
Tournament or league 8-ball on a bar box is typically a good game.
The rules are fairly consistent, and everybody seems to know the rules.
Since I quit playing bar pool, I don't have to deal with all of the stupid bar rules,
watch guys "scoop" the ball when they're hooked, and call it a jump shot.
Another one I like in bar pool is when 2-balls are close together, and they call a split, to get past the bar pool call every kiss rule.
"I'm gonna split-em"
 
cuesblues said:
The solution is don't play bar pool.
Tournament or league 8-ball on a bar box is typically a good game.
The rules are fairly consistent, and everybody seems to know the rules.
Since I quit playing bar pool, I don't have to deal with all of the stupid bar rules,
watch guys "scoop" the ball when they're hooked, and call it a jump shot.
Another one I like in bar pool is when 2-balls are close together, and they call a split, to get past the bar pool call every kiss rule.
"I'm gonna split-em"
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That's funny, I remember that from playing as a teenager...

"I"m gonna call the 4 in this corner, and the 6 in that corner, and if I make either one of them, I"m gonna keep shooting." :D

FWIW, I think real BCA rules 8 ball is a great game for thinkers.
 
there is NO better game played on a barbox PERIOD

so, if the OP is complaining about playing it on barboxes, he is wrong. 9 ball on a barbox SUCKS. Sorry, it does. HUGE pockets, and small area along with not having to call which ball you are going to pocket and where....

If you want rotation (even playing on a little table). at least play 10 ball where you have to call what you are pocketing. That said, I still like figuring patterns and safties on the little track (God forbid you have to think a little more with the clusters and strategies of 8 ball :rolleyes: ).
 
Pushout said:
To the surprise of many casual and not so casual players, the least favorite is always 8 ball. The only time high caliber players play the game is in a tournament setting where there is enough money involved to make it worthwhile.
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My impression is this: Someone runs a single rack of 8-ball, thinks they are gods and can now play 9-ball because the TV has told us that's what pro's do. Then they play and smash and if something drops, they rule! If that wasn't true, we wouldn't follow TV shows, buy their swag, tweet about it, etc, etc. The TV is what teaches now.

TV likes to use 9-Ball because it's fast. Even on streams I've seen the chats about safety play and it's humorous to say the least. "OMG ARE THEY EVER GOING TO GET A BALL???? THESE GUYS SUCK!!!" They haven't the first clue as to the beauty of some of those safes.

Snooker is another good example, the TV shaves that down to remove all safety play and low runs and instead only highlight a miss and the occasional 147.

If TV had 8-ball on it you'd find a lot of those polls would change. BTW; 8-Ball has 4 times the numbers on FB as 9-Ball. If I were in marketing I'd be looking at that a little harder. How many people on here play one-pocket (lots). How many in the general public even know what it is? (1:100,000 would be my guess.) So yes, we'll have more 9-ball players because we play in the tournaments.

And to return to the humor, my new game room! :D
 

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I hunt chumps that think that just because I like 8ball better than 9ball (neither are my favorite game) they can beat me.
 
i grew up playing 14.1 and never would go near an 8 ball game.

it's just in the last 2 years that i've started playing it and have come to have a better appreciation for it.

the guys i play with play rotation 8 ball and it is indeed one excellent game !!
for me, it's much more enjoyable than 9 ball ....
 
loved to gamble playing eight ball

I loved to gamble playing eight ball. Big table was fine, bar table even better. Hog heaven when it was bar table and the big mud ball. There isn't a better game to pluck a chicken over and over while hiding your speed. Anybody that wants to make money gambling needs to play all of the eight ball they can. As indicated by another thread, people start wanting to adjust playing one pocket, nine ball, and ten ball before you have really started into their bankroll. Eight ball players don't want to adjust right away just because "you get a few good rolls" or "they are getting bad rolls", never mind that you are controlling every roll.

A different set of rules everywhere you play is no big deal as long as you are winning. The players from Houston were always a chuckle. They would come to Louisiana and complain about the bar rules:

"This isn't the way we play in Houston!"

"You aren't in Houston."

End of discussion.

Hu
 
Pangit said:
It's the most popular version of cue sports, and there are no rules. It's simply a "bar" game...
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8 ball is a great game

8 ball has a serious problem, bars and weak players. The weaker the player the more rules they seem to have, and every bar seems to have their own rules. thats no 8 balls fault-its weak drunk players that screw things up.

I agree there are about 54254 different possible rule for the game.


When you have 2 experienced players agree upon rules before the game is played there is never a problem. Nits, drunks and inexperienced players are the problem, not the game of 8 ball.
 
master_cueist said:
Sorry if I offend anybody but I truly believe that the only people who hate 8 ball, are the ones who are not smart enough to play it, or who can't move the cue ball well enough to play it. Short of one pocket, and the very end of every rack in straight pool where position is critical, 8 ball is the most strategic game there is.
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Quoted for truth.

8-ball on one of the new Diamond 10-foot tables with pockets like the Fatboy rails that TAR is currently using would be the best overall challenge that professional pool players could have. Under those conditions on a table that size and with pockets cut at 4 1/8th the game would be the perfect balance of offense and defense, skill and knowledge, youth and experience.

What I would not give to watch a tournament or challenge match of professional 8-ball on a 4 1/8th cut Diamond 10-foot. I think that game would open ALOT of eyes within the pool world, fans, promotors, and pros as to the potential that 8-ball has to pull pool out of it's rutt. Not only would 8-ball finally be sufficiently challenging to the pros on those conditions, but finally pool could give the general public the chance to see the game they actually know and have some understanding of.

And IF professional pool ever embraced 8-ball and the general public could finally watch it played by the official rules of the WPA the issue with "bar rules" would slowly go away. ATM there is no pro pool out there to actually show anyone anywhere the proper rules of the game and so it remains a mess.
 
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master_cueist said:
Tell Efren that 8 ball sucks. I think he is hands down the BEST 8 ball player ever. Have you ever watched him play 8 ball? That guy is just unreal. Most people are happy to put a 5 pack together on a bar box playing 9 ball, Efren puts 7 and 8 packs together playing 8 ball on a 9 foot diamond. Sorry if I offend anybody but I truly believe that the only people who hate 8 ball, are the ones who are not smart enough to play it, or who can't move the cue ball well enough to play it. Short of one pocket, and the very end of every rack in straight pool where position is critical, 8 ball is the most strategic game there is. SVB, Gabe Owen, and several other top pros came up through the VNEA 8 ball league system so don't you dare sit there and say there is no value in 8 ball and more specifically, 8 ball on a bar box.
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What does Efren's ability at 8 ball have to do with anything? So he can play it. That's not the point.
I'll dare say anything I please. The highlighted portion of you post is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read here. Don't ever assume that because someone doesn't like a game that they can't play it. I hate TE rules 9 ball but that doesn't mean I can't kick or jump. A lot of people have made that assumption and lost;) I may have been playing 8 ball before you ever saw a table. I just don't like it and choose not to play it just as I choose not to play TE 9 ball. I did play a lot of 9 ball until recently, the last few years, say.
 
8 ball

is more complex than 9 ball or even 10 ball. You can judge someone's intelligence much faster and better by playing 8 ball rather than 9 ball.

Some of the best TV matches I watched were the IPT's 8 ball tournaments.
 
Snapshot9 said:
is more complex than 9 ball or even 10 ball. You can judge someone's intelligence much faster and better by playing 8 ball rather than 9 ball.

Some of the best TV matches I watched were the IPT's 8 ball tournaments.
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The results of the IPT tournaments also served to show how well the game worked as a test for the top professionals given who finished highly in the events and the overall winners. The cream rose to the top in those events and it would have continued to do so if the IPT had not been cut short.
 
My opinion is 8 ball is far more difficult than 9 or 10 ball. There are more balls on the table that have to be negotiated around. I am talking BAC rules, not some bar crap. I don't play in bars so I don't have to worry about that at all. I would much rather play 8 ball that the other two.
 
In one way that eight ball differs from nine ball and ten ball is that as you go through the rack it becomes more difficult because you have less options and your position needs to be more precise. The obstacles remain on the table and the pressure mounts to continue the run for the win because if you go too far with your run and commit yourself to go all the way, and don't, you will surly lose against a good eight ball player.

In nine ball and ten ball going through the rack becomes a bit easier because as you go through the run there are less obstacles and more room to work with.

One thing that has taken a bit out of the game is open table after the break. Playing you got what you make forces you to employ more eight ball skills. You make solids and they are not set for an easy run you will have to utilize your skills and knowledge to give yourself a chance to win that game. True eight ball players will know what I mean. Open after the break highly favors the big break and it becomes just a big shoot out.
 
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