Prulhiere Cues

iba7467

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I received my Prulhiere cue on 11/12. I will try to give as honest a review as possible.

You can see the cue from the maker in this thread. Cue I just made for an AZ member

First I must say that all communication and delivery has been both professional and prompt. There may be no other maker in the country that will allow you to pick your own woods and deliver to your door in under two weeks. My immediate response upon opening the package was that the cue looks just as good (from a distant overall perspective) in person as in the photos. The grain of the woods are incredible. The cue was perfectly straight and screwed together smoothly. The taper for this cue felt very solid and consistent. I believe the taper makes the cue extremely solid and provides smooth feedback - this is of course very subjective but I was very pleased. As mentioned in previous threads there is a maple core and every shot I took felt solid. The finish is very consistent and smooth - honestly one of the best I have seen.

When I received the cue there was some very serious glue leakage at most of the joints. You can see this in the photos attached. I posted these photos without contacting Brian (he knew I would be posting a review of the cue). Immediately he apologized for shipping a product this way and offered to make it right. Brian communicated the entire time. We sent multiple emails back and forth and spoke once on the phone. During the phone conversation, I asked him to replace the tip on the cue as I much prefer layered tips. Brian agreed. I accepted his offer to correct the issues and returned the cue a couple days later and Brian received it on or before 11/21.

I recevied the cue back on 12/12 - still a quick turn around for a custom cue. This time there were no excessive glue lines as before - see photos attached. There is one minor glue blemish on one ring and nothing else worth mentioning - no wood is perfect unless a cue maker is throwing away 80% of their stock for each section of the cue. Even after multiple shipments, the cue was perfectly straight and screwed together smoothly. After the refinish the joints are not exactly the same size - will try to include pics and measurement, but it is thousanths difference but I notice it. Again not a disappointment, it only cost $170 - I don't expect Dennis Searing level quality. This review is still mostly aesthetic as Brian did not change the tip. I hold myself at least partially responsible here as I did not send anything in writing to remind him of this request. I have not shot with a triangle tip in years and do not want to try to compare this cue with such a vastly different tip. I could have this done locally, but feel to provide a quality review all work should be performed by the cuemaker.

Please keep in mind that the numbers below are on a scale of 1-10 and the cue cost $170. If you buy a cue for $170 and expect to have 10s in every rating, you need to wake up.

Aesthetics
Finish: 9.5
Joint Work: 6
Wood Grain: 9

Playability
Taper: 8 (subjective but solid)
Weight: 7.5 (maybe just a hair heavy at 19.1 but I did not specify when ordering - it has a weight bolt which I could change and would probably improve the weight and balance for me)
Balance: 8
Hit: Need to play with new tip.

Communication: 9.5 (would be a 10 but we missed the tip change)
Price: 10 (no way anyone else is doing this for $170.
Value: I have to play with it more before I can give a number here.
 
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I am not one to be defensive, ever. You can see this if you go back through my threads where I have been ran through the ringer by some. The last thing I want is for someone to read my response and think I am trying to talk my way out of or just covering this issue, but I have to say a couple of things. In those pics, the rings look awful...I am not blind, and I can see that. But zooming in closer than anyone can with the naked eye makes any flaw(and yes, they are obvious bad flaws) jump out, and makes a bad spot look ten times worse. I am not trying to just cover my a$$, but take that close up of a lot of cues and they will show flaws you didn't even know where there.(I added some pics below so people could see the whole picture and not just the errors) One thing about my cues is that they are made by me, not a computer, CNC, Pentagraph or any other assistance. That does not excuse the flaw, but just states a point. I ran a special on here for 170.00 for a nice cue, and I stand by that as I do not think you will do better for that money for the woods, and time it takes to get one. The mistake I made was thinking I was going to get a few cues ordered out of my add when instead I got a ton. This caused me to be not quite a thorough as I would normally be. I was hurrying for the last two weeks working 14-15 hours daily trying to get these done. Hurrying caused the error. Once again, not an excuse, just the truth. I won't make that mistake again. I will still sell the cues at that price, but will not promise such a short time frame. Next, I would have fixed this issue with no problem had the buyer contacted me. I do not mind an honest review, and this was. I just like a chance to fix things before someone shows this to the thousands of onlookers. This buyer never said a word to me. As far as the rosewood comment....it is the wood It is said t be. No one will remember the good reviews you can find on here, and there are several, but they will remember comments like "at least it wasn't an expensive lesson." If I read the review correctly, he didn't say he didn't like it or it was junk or a lesson learned, he just had some issues with it. I can tell you that people like the way they shoot, and the way they look. All I ever ask, is if a person has a problem, please contact me first, because for many people on here this will be the only review of my cue they will stumble across and there are many better ones. Thanks for all of the support I have gotten here. There are a lot of good people on AZ. To the autor of this riview, please understand this is not an attack on you for your honesty at all, it is more to help others understand me and my cues and to make sure others read your entire review before deciding it was junk and a cheap lesson to be learned. Thanks
Iba7467 for your business and honesty.
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Very detailed pics. I am wondering why the customer didn't contact the maker first if there was a problem?

Thanks for the honest review though. I have been waiting for it. :thumbup:
 
The builder knew exactly what this cue looked like before it left his shop.
He shipped it anyway.
The OP wanted a cheap cue built in 2 weeks.
That's exactly what he got.
Excuses aren't necessary. The deal & the cue speak for themselves.
 
All I ever ask, is if a person has a problem, please contact me first, because for many people on here this will be the only review of my cue they will stumble across and there are many better ones. Thanks for all of the support I have gotten here.

I did not contact you first in my haste to post my promised review of your cue. I will edit the first post immediately. Feel free to give me a call at 256-525-0773. I will update the post once we have finished. Thanks again.
 
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well, atleast it wasnt to expensive of a lesson to learn. Also, the other thread describes the cue as brazillian rosewood...don't think so

The wood looks very similar to another brazillian rosewood cue that I have owned. I would say very confidently that it is.

Excuses aren't necessary. The deal & the cue speak for themselves.

This is fairly well put. I would however not pass judgement until Mr. Prulhiere and I discuss the complaints. He has already posted in the thread that he would like to do so. Quality communication thus far.
 
I received my Prulhiere cue on Saturday. I will try to give as honest a review as possible. This review will be mostly aesthetic as I was gambling at the pool room and used my regular cue most of the time.

You can see the cue from the maker in this thread. Cue I just made for an AZ member

First I must say that communication and delivery were both professional and prompt. There may be no other maker in the country that will allow you to pick your own woods and deliver to your door in under two weeks. My immediate response upon opening the package was that the cue looks just as good (from a distant overall perspective) in person as in the photos. The grain of the woods are incredible. The taper for this cue felt perfect - this is of course very subjective but I was very pleased. As mentioned in previous threads there is a maple core and every shot I took felt solid. The finish feels consistent and smooth.

Now to the bad; Comments removed. As you can see below, Mr. Prulhiere has offered to address the issues I raised. This really does not surprise me considering his quality communication during the build. I will refrain from posting the negative until our transaction is complete and he has had a chance to address it himself.

First I'd like to say I was very interested in hearing about there cues however....

Personally I find it very discomforting that you've removed statements and pics from a claimed 'honest' review. You had issues and you stated them as you should. To remove them after the fact IMO does more harm than good and completely taints this 'review' with doubt. Now if/when the maker corrects your issues, as he I hope he would , that info should be fully included and even added to the original post/review. But now the whole thing just seems...IDK, dirty.

If I'm the only odd ball about this then I apologize but thats my feeling.

I hope it all gets worked out to your satisfaction.
 
I'm reserving judgement until the final product is reviewed. If the cuemaker is willing to work with the customer to correct issues, he should be given an opportunity to show what he believes his best work is. Then let AZB know.
 
I have to say that the actions by the reviewer are very honorable. Mr. Prulhiere seems to have a unique look to his cues and is self taught. I am pulling for him. Maybe he bit off more than he could chew with the promotion and ended up rushed. In the end that will not be accepted as a pardon though, and it shouldn't be. But he should be given the opportunity to make it right. This is one of the reasons we should support the cuemakers over the mass producers- personal attention and pride of workmanship.

This is a tough crowd and he is willing to throw his cues in for scrutiny. Lets hope that he is able to make the grade. It takes guts to even try.

Let us know how the situation comes out.
 
First I'd like to say I was very interested in hearing about there cues however....

Personally I find it very discomforting that you've removed statements and pics from a claimed 'honest' review. You had issues and you stated them as you should. To remove them after the fact IMO does more harm than good and completely taints this 'review' with doubt. Now if/when the maker corrects your issues, as he I hope he would , that info should be fully included and even added to the original post/review. But now the whole thing just seems...IDK, dirty.

If I'm the only odd ball about this then I apologize but thats my feeling.

I hope it all gets worked out to your satisfaction.

You may be right, but I felt it was more fair to the cue maker to wait since to quote him, "I just like a chance to fix things before someone shows this to the thousands of onlookers." I only believe this is fair. I will try to include all details in the first thread upon completion, good or bad. But I do wish to give the guy a chance (which I did not do before posting).

I can assure you that the review will be totally fair, which is why I am removing it - maybe that's wrong but it's my opinion.

I will also say that there has been no pressure from Prulhiere in any way about the post. Some people would come back and say take that down with either a threat or a promise of reward and he has not done so. The only communication between us since my receipt of the cue has been voiced in this thread and a PM where I sent my number.
 
Received a simple PM from Prulhiere cues that he would fix any issues. Very straight forward and hard not to find acceptable. I will send back in next two days and keep everyone updated.
 
I got one built before the $170 deal on the forums here, and didn't have any of the problems the OP saw. As I mentioned elsewhere, my cue is very well made (obviously by hand since some of joints are not 'perfect'), but is definitely very nice to look at. Stroking feels very nice, though I wasn't a big fan of how it hit. I'm not experienced enough to know if the hit was because of the cue, or the cheap tip that it ships with though.
 
I received mine yesterday, Zebrawood with the cork wrap.

Overall, I am very pleased with the cue. Not fancy but still a very nicely built cue for the price I paid. I love the cork wrap as I have been playing with a cork wrap for about 4 years.

The hit was solid, nothing cheap feeling about the cue. The shaft weighs in at 3.8 oz, with a very slight taper roll. This is not a big deal and I don't even consider it an imperfection, it's pretty standard and still 95% which is better than many cue shafts. Some slight taper roll is normal IMHO.

The cork wrap is nicely done, can't see the seam. The wood is highly figured as well.

The tip appears to be a layered tip, not sure what is on there though? The ferrule is !/2" as I requested. Weight is just over 20 ounces, I prefer a bit lighter and Brian agreed to send me a smaller weight bolt.

He has been great about answering my questions quickly and professionally. No quibbles as far as I am concerned. I am sure Iba... will be happy once it's said and done.

Cues of this quality won't be selling this cheap for long, they are too much cue for the money in my opinion.
 
I finally got a chance to play with my new 170.00 cue from Prulhiere, I would still be extremely happy with it if I paid $270.00 for it.
 
I just wanted to make a quick update, since I know I've been a bit of a critic here. I got the tip changed and the weight upped (stock the cue was just over 18oz, got it up just over 20 where I like it), and I love the hit! It is an extremely great looking cue, the cork grip has a fantastic feel, and the hit is dead on.

You won't regret getting one, particularly at only $170.
 
I just wanted to make a quick update, since I know I've been a bit of a critic here. I got the tip changed and the weight upped (stock the cue was just over 18oz, got it up just over 20 where I like it), and I love the hit! It is an extremely great looking cue, the cork grip has a fantastic feel, and the hit is dead on.

You won't regret getting one, particularly at only $170.

If the cue was originally 18 oz. and 2 oz. was added to make it the weight you wanted... seems extreme. Assuming the weight was added via a heavy weight bolt, wouldn't that move the balance point too much to the rear? It just seems that a well balanced 18 oz. cue couldn't take that heavy a weight bolt and still stay well balanced. I'm not being critical, just wandering.
 
I just wanted to make a quick update, since I know I've been a bit of a critic here. I got the tip changed and the weight upped (stock the cue was just over 18oz, got it up just over 20 where I like it), and I love the hit! It is an extremely great looking cue, the cork grip has a fantastic feel, and the hit is dead on.

You won't regret getting one, particularly at only $170.

Was the cue ordered at 20 oz and received at 18 oz? Or did you not specify a weight and the one you got was 18 oz?
 
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