Ha Ha! His demons aren't in the closet, they're in the living room! :yes:
What's the deal Jay?......I'm starting to think you don't like Earl......:grin-square:
Ha Ha! His demons aren't in the closet, they're in the living room! :yes:
What's the deal Jay?......I'm starting to think you don't like Earl......:grin-square:
Well put but I have to disagree with Mika being a B in mental toughness......Mika is as mentally tough as anyone...Period!!
Earl is a major head case, way beyond MacEnroe, Rodman or Daly. They weren't sick, Earl is. You don't have to be a therapist to figure that one out.
If you "were" a therapist you might not have been so quick to put Daly onto that list.
I see the parallels between Daly and Earl. However, Earl is a much more accomplished pool player than Daly is a golf player.
....... Earl? He has so much freaking skill that he sometimes actually wins despite his complete lack of mental game. If you took Earl's skills and natural talent and put them into a head as cool as Ralph you would have a pool playing monster that would never lose a tournament.
Golf is a harder sport period. But that is a topic that has been beaten to death. As far as Earl goes, I was an Earl fan back in the day. Loved watching him play. Still do. I watch all kinds of videos of him back 10-20 years ago. As far as comparing the 2, that is easy. As much as I like Shanes game, if the younger Earl was to play Shane now, hate to break it to you SVB lovers out there, but it would get ugly quick. Earl made balls and outs from everywhere. Didnt matter. The only reason he didnt win more was because he had younger Efren to compete against. And he still won his fair share. Not sure about the number, but isnt it 6 US Opens. Let me know when Shane has that many. Hell, Efren 10-20 years ago beats SVB. But today, Earls head gets in the way. Comes with shots, but blows up all the time. The first 10 ball match they played that Earl won, he only won due to his behavior the first day. He was in Ultra Shark Mode. I was actually feeling embarrased watching it and I wasnt even there. But then, he wusses out and wont play the other part of their match to play Shane on a 9 footer. Earl of old beats him on the 10 footer, doesnt miss a beat and says rackem on the 9 footer. But it is pointless to argue either side as it can never be proven.
One of the best pool players ever told me that Earl cannot play pool the way it should be played. He choses the wrong shots, wrong position, etc. but since he is so talented he gets by with this. Earl should even be kicking everybody's a s s today.
Earl has more natural talent then SVB, it is not even close in that aspect. He is the better overall player "when" he can keep his head in check. Earl's top speed is higher then SVB's top speed, Earl's top speed is higher then anyone out there in fact.
BUT, and this is a huge but. Earl has absolutely no mental toughness, very little ability to grind, he is unable to draw deep and pull himself back into a match.
Truth is I don't think SVB himself has a huge mental game or amazing grinding ability, but compared to Earl SVB is a rock. Compared to Alex though? SVB gives up some in the mental toughness and grinding aspects of the game, the "heart" portion of the game when compared to Alex. It is why Alex is so able to compete with SVB despite a serious disadvantage in the break. SVB pretty much said the same thing on the commentary on the Raj/Oscar match, he learned alot from playing Alex in how he approached the game and commented on times he himself has had problems with negative feelings hurting his performance at times.
Mental toughness? The ability to keep your focus and your cool under tough circumstances? This is how I would mark things for alot of the top pros. This is NOT a ranking of skill, it is a ranking of how mentally tough the player is, I think alot of the people lower on the list have ALOT more skill and natural talent then some of the people who are higher up.
Ralph: A+
Wu: A+
Efren: A
Orcullo: A
Bustamante: A
Thorsten: A
Alex A-
Yang A-
Mika: B+
Appleton: B+
Archer: B+
SVB: B
Deuel: B
Dechaine: C
Morris: C
Hatch: C
Putnam: D
Earl: F
Guys like Ralph, Wu, Dennis, Efren, Busta, Thorsten, those guys are rocks under the pressure, they are able to perform when the pressure is on and when things go bad they do NOT let their emotions get the better of them and give themselves the best chance of anyone to get back into a match because of it. Mika, Appleton, Archer, SVB, those guys are all super skilled and they have some strong mental game at times, but they have been known to occasionally lose their composure and it has at times really dropped their game down at crucial moments when they needed it most. Morris, Hatch, these guys have alot of skill, but their mental games are erratic and it costs them. Sometimes they shoot like world champs, other times they cannot get out. Their inconsistent ability to play their top game due to emotions has cost both of these guys alot of success. Earl? He has so much freaking skill that he sometimes actually wins despite his complete lack of mental game. If you took Earl's skills and natural talent and put them into a head as cool as Ralph you would have a pool playing monster that would never lose a tournament.
I have no idea how anyone could question SVB's mental toughness or grinding ability.
That's a ridiculous comment to make no matter how great the player who told you was. He was obviously hating on Earl. His Position play was and is as good as anybody. What was he watching?
Actually, he and Earl are good friends. He did not make this comment to belittle Earl, as he has a lot of respect for Earl's game. He has played Earl many times and has had first hand experience observing Earl's game.
Earl cannot play pool the way it should be played. He choses the wrong shots, wrong position, etc.
Thread title should read...
Shane is not better than Earl... at tennis.
Out of the three large race TAR matches Shane was won 2. Both of the Shane won were on Standard equipment. The match Shane lost was on a 10 foot table that was heated with 860 on the bed and 760 on the rails and a shot clock.
If Earl was the better player then Earl would be able to beat him regularly on regular equipment. Not a gimmick match like the 10 footer.
Some people would argue that a match on a 10 footer is the gold standard of top play