Van Boening's Break

I have looked at many of his videos and I watched a portion of this Video on TAR. I began recording his cue ball control success rate, trying to get the big picture (100 breaks). More often than not, he is spraying his cue ball all over the table. The chances of the ball parking in the center quarter of the table is a little better than 25%. This makes his chances not much better than not trying at all.

This guy is amazing with his racking shenanigans. I have pointed it out before. Recently, I found a video where after the ref did all this tedious racking of the balls with a Magic Rack, it sill wasn't good enough. SVB was prompting the ref to mess around further with the rack. The ref went for it!
 
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JesseAllred said:
he's actually putting follow on the ball. if it had draw the ball would go to the back rail.
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I have always thought the CB was in the air , barely hitting the OB above center at the moment of contact. Without the CB having little or no spin.
A dead spuare hit should be the reason for the paralysis.
 
TheConArtist said:
I believe the cueball is in the air and is hitting the oneball on the way down therefore bouncing the cueball JMO.
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yes the cueball is airborne before it hits the rack which means the CB is very capable of jumping off the table.
 
Paul Schofield said:
I have looked at many of his videos and I watched a portion of this Video on TAR. I began recording his cue ball control success rate, trying to get the big picture (100 breaks). More often than not, he is spraying his cue ball all over the table. The chances of the ball parking in the center quarter of the table is a little better than 25%. This makes his chances not much better than not trying at all.

This guy is amazing with his racking shenanigans. I have pointed it out before. Recently, I found a video where after the ref did all this tedious racking of the balls with a Magic Rack, it sill wasn't good enough. SVB was prompting the ref to mess around further with the rack. The ref went for it!
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I believe at the end of the last TAR Alex Pagulayan says "Shane's break is too good, and he never hits the side rail with the cue ball". That is great control at the speed Shane hit's it. And there is no shenanigans involved when he is trying to get a tight rack.
 
Just watched Shane Vs Ralph at the Derby City Classic on youtube. Shane breaks them prettu well on that match when its 6-2 SVB breaks and makes 5 balls on the break, now that strong in ten ball
 
8pack said:
Get the ball to jump with draw it goes forward ,
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Ok, we'll just ignore what we're seeing with our eyes; the cueball coming forward several inches to several feet after landing every single time that he's not able to stick it. When it comes to the back rail it's because it gets kissed by an OB.

If you're just talking generally then you would lose power hitting the oneball so high that it would go forward with draw. When that happens you've hit it bad.
 
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I believe the bounce of the cue ball to be one of the three shown below. see picture

The cue ball begin's it's hippity hop trip to the rack, immediately upon striking it. see picture
 

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trustyrusty said:
QUALITY OF CONTACT!!! Like golf, hitting the ball on the sweetspot of the club gets you the best results. Shane hits the headball nearly perfect every time. I have a friend that breaks WAY harder than I do, but has ZERO control over the cueball and he hits the headball in a different spot everytime....his results are as inconsistent as his contact. The correlation is obvious. :cool:

think Shane hitting that BREAKRAK thing a gazillion times has anything to do with his consistency?? :p
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Good point and great analogy. SVB nails the 1-ball square eveytime.
 
power break

I worked on increasing my break speed. Actually I first worked on this with golf. I wore a weighted wrist band for 1 month while hitting golf balls on the range. The weight was 15oz for each wrist. After one month I in creased my swing speed by 2.4 MPH and this came out to be about 12-15 yards with my irons. BIG DIFFEENCE!
I then applied this to pool wearing is on my break hand. In fact I had a professional women try it for 1 month and she increase her break speed from 17 MPH to 19.5 this result in an increase of 10.13% in break speed. I increased my break speed by 10%. Further I notice a smoother stroke as I was training my "pool muscles".
The reason this works is because you a making your twitch muscles respond faster, some people refer to it as burst speed.
Try and let me know.
 
teedotaj said:
You can see it here. He looks like he's just moving his arm forward.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcNyh2b739o
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When I use to play 8, 9, or 10 Ball I wanted to just make a Ball or Two on ever Break, and have the Cue Ball end up at Center Table between the side pockets.

Shane's Break is Powerful, but IMHO you have better post Break Cue Ball position in my IDEAL Spot, not at the Head of the TABLE like Shane did.

Big Powerful Break looks great on a DVD, Stream, or TV. but if you are hooked because of poor Cue Ball Control, UR SOL.
 
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I started practing my break this weekend, after reading this thread. Just seemed like the thing to do. Started breaking 10 ball with the magic rack. over... and over again...

I've probably broken over 100 racks... have a little strawberry above my thumb from where the cue is taking my skin off! At first I couldn't squat it at all.. now I'm doing it with more regularity.

What helped for me was raising my bridge hand up so when I follow through I get the follow I need. I can tell you though if you don't hit the head ball square you know you didn't because the cue ball is everywhere.

It feels so good to actually get it to squat though. Also by raising my bridge hand up it doesn't cause the "rug burn" anymore so that is great.
 
A lot of people can learn from the way Shane breaks the balls. No one else in the world breaks like he does in my opinion.

Would love to see some more vids of him just breaking in all speeds (normal pace, slo-mo, different angles etc).
 
You & lots of Pool Players around the world. Maybe someday he'll make a Break Shot Video. Someday soon there will be others than will be able to break like Shane & that's gonna create some GENUINE Competition.

I watched a match in Olathe go 5 innings plus, where the player breaking (alternating breaks) got out every time. That was a real show of skill, from two competitors. Twice the players got out from under unbelievable odds, to run the rack.

Start watching all of Shane's videos & START practicing... you might become the next Break Shot artist..
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
When I use to play 8, 9, or 10 Ball I wanted to just make a Ball or Two on ever Break, and have the Cue Ball end up at Center Table between the side pockets.

Shane's Break is Powerful, but IMHO you have better post Break Cue Ball position in my IDEAL Spot, not at the Head of the TABLE like Shane did.

Big Powerful Break looks great on a DVD, Stream, or TV. but if you are hooked because of poor Cue Ball Control, UR SOL.
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thanks for pointing out the obvious. but the intent of posting the video is to show what he is physically doing on the break....
 
Monkey-Boy said:
A lot of people can learn from the way Shane breaks the balls. No one else in the world breaks like he does in my opinion.

Would love to see some more vids of him just breaking in all speeds (normal pace, slo-mo, different angles etc).
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In the Shane and Donny Mills match,he tried everything.
Mills is also a breaking machine
 
If you watch his video you will that he is also hitting down on the CB. This is what creates the little hop when he hits the one ball. Other than the speed he hits the balls this is another reason why is break is so good. We practice this by putting a pencil 10 inches in front of the CB when practicing the break. The ball seem to explode with less effort. Making it easier to control the CB.
 
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