What do u guys think of bank shot calculater versus buying a banking DVD?
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There are too many variables that go into banking, especially if you're taking into account leaves, breakouts, etc.
Get a DVD done by a true banker and you'll learn more than a calculator can tell you.
I agree with Davis. If you are talking about a calculator meaning one of those programs where you plug in the location of the balls and it tells you where to hit it, I'd go with books and DVD's - especially by Brumback and the Beard.
With these you will actually LEARN stuff. The calculator won't do you any good when it's crunch time because they are not legal during play.
With these you will actually LEARN stuff. The calculator won't do you any good when it's crunch time because they are not legal during play.
No comparison...get John and Freddy's bank DVDs and go to town!
Sent from my phone. Lucky you, you get the abbreviated version.
Sent from my phone. Lucky you, you get the abbreviated version.
Yes I'm defitnely getting Brumbacks DVD, I did try the free app on banking but I agree nothing like seeing for learning, well at least for me
If you want to have more info than you can learn about banking, I recommend both of the Beard's "books". I have his videos too and I find it easier to learn from the books. Just because you can take the books to the table. And it's easier to comprehend and remember the bank shots when you can open up the book and theirs a diagram of 4 different banks going in the same pocket. The diagrams are easy to understand. Of course this is my opinion. But get the books, you won't be disappointed. And you can take that too the Bank!
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Another vote for instructional material!
Far too many subtleties involved to think a formula will give the necessary skills.
IMO, a calculator is great for showing general direction (paths), but when the Beard tells you the bank can only be made with hard center-ball...then you know how it needs to be hit.
Far too many subtleties involved to think a formula will give the necessary skills.
IMO, a calculator is great for showing general direction (paths), but when the Beard tells you the bank can only be made with hard center-ball...then you know how it needs to be hit.
I think the method and or technique of hitting the shot Is more Important than seeing the angles right.About everyone sees the angle,imo.Thanks,John B.
Who needs an app..... seriously is the math in the diamond system really that hard for you? You really only need to know how to divide by 2.....
Best answer. Whoever this is must be a banker...
Does the app tell you to raise your bridge hand a little and make sure the cue ball rolls forward after hitting object ball? If it doesn't tell you anything like that, you need the DVD. Or does it tell you the shot will/won't go depending on how hard you hit it? If it does, let me know where to get that calculator.
Wow, why is this even a question? Do we live in some communist state with only one choice available? Is the economy so bad you can't buy the DVD and afford another five bucks? Are you convinced I have nothing to offer? All valid questions but please let me just say; John Brumback and Freddie the Beard are great players, great teachers, and have my utmost respect. Their Books and DVDs are exceptional. Many a young player have greatly improved their level of play with the knowledge acquired from these forums. I think you should buy them. I'll say it again, I think you should buy them. Then, spend five bucks and get a Bank Shot Calculator. Once you've learned how to hit the shot, use my app as a reminder, to see where to hit the shot. Sit at the bar and use it. Sit on a plane and use it. Sit in the park and use it, or use it on the pool table.
Wrap your noodle around this thought. We break each diamond into 16 increments.
16x16=256 points per grid sq.
256x32=8192 points per table
8192 points per object ball
8192 points per cue ball
Nearly 67,108,864 two ball location combinations on the playing surface.
3 shot speeds
3 english choices
played as a bank shot, one rail kick shot, or two rail kick shot.
How many different shot possibilities are there in pool? We're still growing and improving the app. I hope to launch a Droid version this summer. As we grow I will program in kick banks, kick safes, bank safes, 2 rail banks, 3 rail banks...and so on. So please, Don't limit yourself to picking one or two brains, even if they are the best pool players the world has to offer. Pool playing requires a physical skill as well as knowledge. I only posses a percentage of the skill level required but I figured out the math, and I figured out how to present it in a manner that is accurate, affordable and available. So please, spend the five bucks and help me help everyone else with more and more calculations.
Thanks Guys,
You need Both
First you need to see where to hit the object ball to the rail.
If your a Pro or A player no issue.
For this you need one system.
Having a calculator to verify your hit point is critical.
I think it would be worth the investment.
Second, you need to know the proper techniques on how to hit the cue ball.
Because of all the variables hitting, soft, hard, english, cushions, cloth, humidity, etc.
Everyone has a different systems and techniques.
No one system shows you how to hit every shot.
That's why you need all the systems such as JKBY, Beard, Frost etc.
First you need to see where to hit the object ball to the rail.
If your a Pro or A player no issue.
For this you need one system.
Having a calculator to verify your hit point is critical.
I think it would be worth the investment.
Second, you need to know the proper techniques on how to hit the cue ball.
Because of all the variables hitting, soft, hard, english, cushions, cloth, humidity, etc.
Everyone has a different systems and techniques.
No one system shows you how to hit every shot.
That's why you need all the systems such as JKBY, Beard, Frost etc.
Does your calculator tell how much english can be transferred from the cue ball to the object ball? Does it know how much a bank shortens up when hit hard? Does is it deal when you have a jacked up hit?
To me those questions cannot be answered by a calculator.
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