I agree with this logic myself. Is it not a $3k freeze-up at $500/game?? It's like you win 1 for $500 then lose 2 for $1000 then go on to finally go up 6 for $3000. This appears to sound familiar.
Gerry S
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I agree with this logic myself. Is it not a $3k freeze-up at $500/game?? It's like you win 1 for $500 then lose 2 for $1000 then go on to finally go up 6 for $3000. This appears to sound familiar.
Gerry S
If you lose 25-15 you are no longer playing 6 ahead...
Every single game is worth $ 500.
You either win or lose $ 500, every single game, no matter how you read it. If you fail to see this, you have to post if I ever play you for money
You either win or lose $ 500, every single game, no matter how you read it. If you fail to see this, you have to post if I ever play you for money
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I know, it was a rebuttal to a post about ahead and per-game sets..
In danger of getting back on topic.....
Who was she playing?
Who was she playing?
For those interested in the probabilities....
If two players in a 6-ahead race are evenly matched, the race is expected to take more than 26 games about half the time. On the other hand, the most likely length of the match is 12 games, but that happens only one time in 18.There is about a 10% chance that the match will take more than 73 games, and a 1% chance that it will take more than 137 games. This last point is why there is usually a pro-rated division clause with a time limit in ahead sets.
Personally, I think they're playing for $500 a game.
If two players in a 6-ahead race are evenly matched, the race is expected to take more than 26 games about half the time. On the other hand, the most likely length of the match is 12 games, but that happens only one time in 18.There is about a 10% chance that the match will take more than 73 games, and a 1% chance that it will take more than 137 games. This last point is why there is usually a pro-rated division clause with a time limit in ahead sets.
Personally, I think they're playing for $500 a game.
US Ranks near the bottom in Math Skills
The US Ranks near the bottom in math skills against other industrial nations and this discussion proves it...
66 games played -- score 36 to 30 .. winner gets 3K how much per game were they playing for? OR are you smarted than a 5th grader?
Bonus question how much Total money exchanged hands during the match?
you have 30 secs.. tic / toc...
The counter argument against a 6 ahead set of 1pkt for this amount would be in the potential lower HOURLY rate example it takes 300 hours to complete = winner working for $10 / hour at $500 PER GAME! But if it takes "only" 30 hours the winner is working for $100/hour tax free (not bad).
Question 1 = $500/game
Question 2 = 66 x $500 = $33,000
The US Ranks near the bottom in math skills against other industrial nations and this discussion proves it...
66 games played -- score 36 to 30 .. winner gets 3K how much per game were they playing for? OR are you smarted than a 5th grader?
Bonus question how much Total money exchanged hands during the match?
you have 30 secs.. tic / toc...
The counter argument against a 6 ahead set of 1pkt for this amount would be in the potential lower HOURLY rate example it takes 300 hours to complete = winner working for $10 / hour at $500 PER GAME! But if it takes "only" 30 hours the winner is working for $100/hour tax free (not bad).
Question 1 = $500/game
Question 2 = 66 x $500 = $33,000
Thank you for posting this!!!
Ok yes technically 6 ahead for 3k is 500 a game but as far as it goes (in the 20+ years ive been playing) nobody gets paid until they get six games AHEAD of their opponent!! If it was pro rated they would just play 500 a game and stop at the 3k!!
It defeats the purpose of the FREEZE OUT (which im sure most of you know is)!!! An AHEAD SET gives you a chance to wear down your opponent before they can get ahead of you. The major deal with ahead sets is you either win them or get it to 0-0 before renegociating new rules or sets. Such as: RACE TO 11 for the total amount!! Were been playing for days and I want to end it in a race to 11!! That was the rule or CODE fro gambling with ahead sets.
Saw Tony Chohan and Delicious play a 5 ahead set for 5k and it too almost 24 hours for Kid Delicious to close it out. Nobody got tired and quit down at 1k per game!! They played it out till teh end of the AHEAD set.
If the two players go back adn forth for days and the one that is down games pro rates them fine... But the true meaning of ahead matches or FREEZE OUTS is you play till the bitter end.
Just my 2 cents IMHO FWIW and all that im trying not to offend people mumbo jumbo :angry:
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Every single game is worth $ 500.
You either win or lose $ 500, every single game, no matter how you read it. If you fail to see this, you have to post if I ever play you for money
This is 100% correct!
Discussion over.....
I've seen "ahead" races played with a time limit. At the end of the time you settle up according to the current score and the amount per game, such as $500/game if you were playing 6 ahead for $3000.
Um no most dont get what an AHEAD set is...
Well they must have a life or a wife and kids to be in a situation to maybe say... "Well we can play an ahead set for this set amount but i got to get back to my life at such and such a time..."
That my friend is playing by the GAME not an AHEAD set. AS much as some want to believe ahead sets are paid by the game or pro rated no matter what the time limit are highly confused..
Either you play the ahead set out to it per-determined amount to win the AHEAD set or you play by the game and thats it.
Do you have a family and kids btw.. Just curious because GAMBLERS that play in ahead set can stay to GAMBLE the set out for 2 or 3 days till its done. You know why? Its all they do... Thats their job. To win big money at any cost with no one else hanging in the balance!!
So let me ask you again.... You a GAMBLER or the family type that needs to go home and go to work the next day?? Yeah... It seems like the rush most people want but I rather get paid for my time over time...
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Oh Btw it only my HONEST OPINON and not a personal attack on anybody
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Six ahead.
The game is six ahead! That's the bet. There is a reason for this type of bet. The whole time thing is irrelevant. A big part of this bet is perseverance. Who is most patient. Who gets tired and frustrated. It will be a decisive victory, no one just squeaking out a victory. From a spectator point of view it may seem boring and endless, but it's not about you! I watched Chip Compton and Glen Atwell play eight ahead banks. Took three days!! Three ten hour days! Who can hang in there and persevere. That's the game. Yes it can be adjusted if both players agree.
The game is six ahead! That's the bet. There is a reason for this type of bet. The whole time thing is irrelevant. A big part of this bet is perseverance. Who is most patient. Who gets tired and frustrated. It will be a decisive victory, no one just squeaking out a victory. From a spectator point of view it may seem boring and endless, but it's not about you! I watched Chip Compton and Glen Atwell play eight ahead banks. Took three days!! Three ten hour days! Who can hang in there and persevere. That's the game. Yes it can be adjusted if both players agree.
Thank you Watchez
I thought I was gonna have to try and explain this to them. It's a $500 a game bet, that's it.....
I thought I was gonna have to try and explain this to them. It's a $500 a game bet, that's it.....
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I understand that also, but most of us cannot give up work and family and play pool for three straight days. I understand it is not about us, my point was that there are other options to guarantee than no one breaks even after 20 hours of play.
Prorate or no prorate, 6 ahead for $3k is the same as $500/game. It's just $500/game with a $3k freeze out. If there is a prorate, they can quit at any time, at which point the player in the lead will receive $500 for each game they are ahead. If there is no prorate, they will play until one player is 6 games ahead, at which time that player will be paid $500 for each game they are ahead. If there is no prorate and one player quits early, that player is a welcher.
Not sure where the confusion is coming from here.
An ahead set is not the same as a straight race, where the price per game can fluctuate depending on the number of games required to complete the set. In an ahead set, each game is worth the same - you win $500 for each game you win, and you lose $500 for each game you lose. The freeze out just ensures that one player receives $3k at the end of the match - without the freeze out, there is no sense in calling it an ahead set.
Aaron
Not sure where the confusion is coming from here.
An ahead set is not the same as a straight race, where the price per game can fluctuate depending on the number of games required to complete the set. In an ahead set, each game is worth the same - you win $500 for each game you win, and you lose $500 for each game you lose. The freeze out just ensures that one player receives $3k at the end of the match - without the freeze out, there is no sense in calling it an ahead set.Aaron