Will a Juma ferrule glue up ok with yellow wood glue? If not..then how about Gorilla glue?
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I would advise using epoxy and forgetting wood glue for gluing ferrules and ring work. When you have worked on many old cues you will understand why. Glue it now with wood glue and in a couple of decades your cue will most likely be one coming apart and being repaired in someone's shop.
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I normally use g-5 epoxy with a little white tint in it so that there is no glue line. I only use fast setting epoxy (g-5) for ferrules and pins. I use slow setting epoxies for all other applications except coring and I'm still experimenting with different glues in this area.
Dick
Dick
Chuck the G5.
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Glues,_adhesives/Stewart-MacDonald_Epoxies.html
The 5-minute here gives the G5 the 7-out.
Btw, white gorilla glue works darn well too. IT won't lose adhesion like wood glue does.
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I use Gorilla glue for coring. For everything else I use some form of epoxy.
Hey Joe,
I tried to find tensile and ductility numbers for this glue you use but could not find any spec sheet on the searches. Do you have the info to share from your packaging.
I was under the impression that G5 was the strongest 5 min 2 part in the world.
Thanks,
Rick
Don't they sell larger quantities? Buying just 4oz at a time is close to double the price of G-5. I've about quit using 5-minute anyway so actually 4oz would last awhile.
Dick
I have none.
I mixed two parts and whack them and test them myself.
The worst quick epoxy I ever tried was Gorilla's, off Home Depot shelf.
Stew's are so cheap and it comes in those handle spout bottles.
Name brand epoxies are so overpriced these days imo.
There so many alternatives.
3M DP420 and 460 can kiss my jazz, I'm not paying for them anymore.
Thank heavens for small epoxy makers. You just have to find one for your application and know how epoxy really works.
That's 4 oz for the resin and 4 oz for the hardener Dick.
It'd be good for a ton of ferrule install.
Anyone every use this stuff from Loctite? 2-4oz bottles from Lowes or Home Depot for $15
http://www.loctiteproducts.com/p/13/23/epxy_heavy/overview/Loctite-Epoxy-Heavy-Duty.htm
Has great specs and the price sure seems right.
Specs here
http://www.loctiteproducts.com/p/13/23/epxy_heavy/overview/Loctite-Epoxy-Heavy-Duty.htm
Has great specs and the price sure seems right.
Specs here
That's not what the site you linked to says. It says 2 - 2 ounce bottles equaling 4 ounce for 9.55. Got Ya!
Dick
I'm still pretty new to all this, but I've used the loctite 5 minute on ferrules, joints, and buttcaps and so far its worked just fine. I was using tiger 5 minute epoxy, but it seemed pretty soft, so I tried the loctite stuff, and even though its 5 minute, it takes it an hour or longer to cure hard. Let it sit a day, and its much harder. I like it so far, but I've only been using it on a few cues so far.
Joe
5-minute epoxy are just for ferrule repairs for customers waiting imo.
Use 24-hr for your buttcaps.
Hi,
I use a lot of G5. In the last 13 months since I moved to my new shop I have used almost a gallon and I just ordered a 32 oz 2 pack today.
At 50.00 for 32 oz. I think it pays to buy the larger size bottles.
Rick
I use a lot of G5. In the last 13 months since I moved to my new shop I have used almost a gallon and I just ordered a 32 oz 2 pack today.
At 50.00 for 32 oz. I think it pays to buy the larger size bottles.
Rick
Glues at the tip end need to have shock resistance.That is why the rubber toughened will last longer than the non toughened epoxies/glues.
As you go further back in the cue, the diameter increases and gives a greater area to share the load.The amount of glue used to put on a ferrule,the time to mix it,far out weighs the cost of the amount you are mixing each time.So it does not really matter what brand you buy, but rather the way it is dispensed and mixed becomes far more important.
Back to the op's question,having a thread on the ferrule does take away alot of the reliance on just the share bond strength of the glue to the materials being used.
Neil
As you go further back in the cue, the diameter increases and gives a greater area to share the load.The amount of glue used to put on a ferrule,the time to mix it,far out weighs the cost of the amount you are mixing each time.So it does not really matter what brand you buy, but rather the way it is dispensed and mixed becomes far more important.
Back to the op's question,having a thread on the ferrule does take away alot of the reliance on just the share bond strength of the glue to the materials being used.
Neil
Neil...which epoxy is "rubber toughened"?. I know the Loctite super glue gel is...but dont know of any epoxy that claims it.
Glueing a ferrule with Loctite super glue would be kind of expensive.
Glueing a ferrule with Loctite super glue would be kind of expensive.
I've used it for a few things and it seems to do its job as expected.