Cant beat you even. I know what I need to make it fair.
Theres people here in Houston that can play you even though.
at 10 ball and one pocket if you wish to come thru.
Open Offer to Danny Harriman and John Schmidt from TAR
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Cant beat you even. I know what I need to make it fair.
Theres people here in Houston that can play you even though.
at 10 ball and one pocket if you wish to come thru.
I guess you just have more natural ability then some folks. To be clear I'm not trying to defend Danny in anyway, but I think some people obviously might have a little more work ethic in preparing for a match such as this.
lol, Danny is a certified crossover cat. Seriously, that dude is a small fry short of a happy meal. Unless he is making $4-$5000 a week then it makes no sense for him not to do this. And the whole "I've got to relocate and practice" thing is ludicrous.
Of course you are going to practice because $5000 is a lot better than $1000, but it's not like you have to pick up and move for a job or something. Hell, I make close to that and I'd damn sure get up and haul ass for a $5000 free roll if anyone want's to put it up for me playing John or Corey in golf.
The "pool owes us something" has gotten far out of hand. And I'm not just picking on a few that I don't like either. I stood up and said that Stevie was in the wrong for going in primadonna mode in Reno.
Jam, I respect your opinion and we have gotten a long a lot better lately, but the "dancing monkey" argument holds no merrit here either, imo. If that is what pays the bills, then you get up and dance for whomever is dealing out the cheddar. For a $5000 free roll, or stake, tourney, or whatever, if I'm required to be entertainment for a paying audience by showcasing my pool talents then by god, I'm gonna do it, because that is my chosen profession. What if some of actors or singers decided that they just didn't want to perform for people anymore? You don't think that they are "dancing like monkeys" for others entertainment? Yes, they make more but that's because people want to see music and movies more than pool.
Maybe Danny can become an actor. I hear they are taking auditions for the remake of "One Flew Over the Cucoo's Nest".
Of course you are going to practice because $5000 is a lot better than $1000, but it's not like you have to pick up and move for a job or something. Hell, I make close to that and I'd damn sure get up and haul ass for a $5000 free roll if anyone want's to put it up for me playing John or Corey in golf.
The "pool owes us something" has gotten far out of hand. And I'm not just picking on a few that I don't like either. I stood up and said that Stevie was in the wrong for going in primadonna mode in Reno.
Jam, I respect your opinion and we have gotten a long a lot better lately, but the "dancing monkey" argument holds no merrit here either, imo. If that is what pays the bills, then you get up and dance for whomever is dealing out the cheddar. For a $5000 free roll, or stake, tourney, or whatever, if I'm required to be entertainment for a paying audience by showcasing my pool talents then by god, I'm gonna do it, because that is my chosen profession. What if some of actors or singers decided that they just didn't want to perform for people anymore? You don't think that they are "dancing like monkeys" for others entertainment? Yes, they make more but that's because people want to see music and movies more than pool.
Maybe Danny can become an actor. I hear they are taking auditions for the remake of "One Flew Over the Cucoo's Nest".
A few random thoughts...
-It is almost never cool to publish someone's private correspondence without their permission. To do so implies a lack of integrity and trustworthiness, and particularly so in a case like this when you know the person passed up the opportunity to respond to you publicly, and specifically chose to do so privately. If you need to publicize a particular part of their message that you know without a doubt that they would be ok with, then do so by paraphrasing that general pertinent part. In this case "Danny has contacted me and for his own reasons has decided that he does not want to play at this time" would have been appropriate.
-Maybe Danny only wants to play a match like this when he feels he is at his very best and it is not just an excuse not to play. I can understand this line of thought for a couple of reasons, even when free money is being turned down. For starters, if you have a poor showing, it can hurt your chances for future opportunities. A poor showing can lessen how much of a draw you are which in turn hurts your chances with sponsors, future streaming opportunities, etc. Plus, the more you dislike a person, the less you want to play them when you are not at your best. It's one thing to get beat. It's quite another to get beat by someone you despise, particularly if you didn't even make it a good match. So maybe you would play that person when at your best, when you know you have a good chance to win and would at least certainly put up a good fight, but you would pass if you were off your game and might get blown out, even if you turned down some free money in the process.
-I can totally understand being upset that your opponent was offered more money to play in a previous match up, when you both were just as equally required for the thing to go off, and you were both close to the same level of draw.
-Sometimes pride makes us make really dumb decisions. The best decisions are always made with logic, and pride always lessens our use of logic. It may not necessarily be the smartest choice to pass up free money just because someone else was offered more than you for the same thing in the past, or just because you are afraid of not looking as good as you should, or any number of other reasons. Ultimately each person has to make this decision for themselves, but pride has caused us all to make many a decision we look back on and regret.
-It could not be put any better than Underclocked put it, but Danny has a mental illness or at least some type of issues that are beyond his full control. What often happens is that people will pick on them even more because of it, instead of doing what they should be doing, which is being much more understanding than what they would have been with the average person for the same thing.
-This offer from TAR is about as good as it gets. Smaller money that is still worth it if you lose, larger money that is even better if you win, free vacation to one of the most popular and premier destination cities in the world, zero expenses, experienced and unbiased reff'ing, controlled environment and rules that you have a say in, etc. The down sides for a player cannot possibly be minimized much more than this.
-One thousand dollars, when you don't have any costs, is not an "insulting" amount if you were to lose every set. Assuming that you fly in the day before, and fly out the day after, this is five days "work". That equates to $200 a day. Two hundred dollars a day equates to a $52,000 a year job assuming five day work weeks. Considering the state of pool and the amounts that can be earned in it, getting a minimum rate of pay that is equivalent to $52,000 a year is not insulting in the least. And that is just for showing up and losing everything. On top of that, you have the chance to earn even more. If you can win, you can make up to $1,000 a day ($5,000 total), which is the same rate of pay as someone making $260,000 a year (over a quarter million dollars!). Sorry, but I just don't see the insult.
-It is almost never cool to publish someone's private correspondence without their permission. To do so implies a lack of integrity and trustworthiness, and particularly so in a case like this when you know the person passed up the opportunity to respond to you publicly, and specifically chose to do so privately. If you need to publicize a particular part of their message that you know without a doubt that they would be ok with, then do so by paraphrasing that general pertinent part. In this case "Danny has contacted me and for his own reasons has decided that he does not want to play at this time" would have been appropriate.
-Maybe Danny only wants to play a match like this when he feels he is at his very best and it is not just an excuse not to play. I can understand this line of thought for a couple of reasons, even when free money is being turned down. For starters, if you have a poor showing, it can hurt your chances for future opportunities. A poor showing can lessen how much of a draw you are which in turn hurts your chances with sponsors, future streaming opportunities, etc. Plus, the more you dislike a person, the less you want to play them when you are not at your best. It's one thing to get beat. It's quite another to get beat by someone you despise, particularly if you didn't even make it a good match. So maybe you would play that person when at your best, when you know you have a good chance to win and would at least certainly put up a good fight, but you would pass if you were off your game and might get blown out, even if you turned down some free money in the process.
-I can totally understand being upset that your opponent was offered more money to play in a previous match up, when you both were just as equally required for the thing to go off, and you were both close to the same level of draw.
-Sometimes pride makes us make really dumb decisions. The best decisions are always made with logic, and pride always lessens our use of logic. It may not necessarily be the smartest choice to pass up free money just because someone else was offered more than you for the same thing in the past, or just because you are afraid of not looking as good as you should, or any number of other reasons. Ultimately each person has to make this decision for themselves, but pride has caused us all to make many a decision we look back on and regret.
-It could not be put any better than Underclocked put it, but Danny has a mental illness or at least some type of issues that are beyond his full control. What often happens is that people will pick on them even more because of it, instead of doing what they should be doing, which is being much more understanding than what they would have been with the average person for the same thing.
-This offer from TAR is about as good as it gets. Smaller money that is still worth it if you lose, larger money that is even better if you win, free vacation to one of the most popular and premier destination cities in the world, zero expenses, experienced and unbiased reff'ing, controlled environment and rules that you have a say in, etc. The down sides for a player cannot possibly be minimized much more than this.
-One thousand dollars, when you don't have any costs, is not an "insulting" amount if you were to lose every set. Assuming that you fly in the day before, and fly out the day after, this is five days "work". That equates to $200 a day. Two hundred dollars a day equates to a $52,000 a year job assuming five day work weeks. Considering the state of pool and the amounts that can be earned in it, getting a minimum rate of pay that is equivalent to $52,000 a year is not insulting in the least. And that is just for showing up and losing everything. On top of that, you have the chance to earn even more. If you can win, you can make up to $1,000 a day ($5,000 total), which is the same rate of pay as someone making $260,000 a year (over a quarter million dollars!). Sorry, but I just don't see the insult.
No disrespect to TAR
I mean no disrespect to Justin either, I am honored to have gotten the chance to compete. I have not played any pool at all in the last three months-before that I was practicing only 3 cushion billiards. I have no hard feelings towards Justin, I just realize that he wanted to let me know who's side he was on by making his post about how he had $2000.00 for John and I promise yall that he did make no offer to me. So I do think he shot himself in the foot a little with that particular post, I hold no grudges and understand where I stand with TAR. Mr. 400 lost the first time we played and I do think the game needs to be played.
I guess I could say also that when I was practicing every day a while back and I asked John for the 3rd all around rematch - and he said no (in his own elequent way) that John was being difficult also as they had raised $2000.00 free money for him - but it is a long wait to be eaten by a goat and that takes time to digest ie knowone likes to lose. It's a little dry 4 me inLas Vegas desert - but I am glad that pool is coming out of the recession.
I mean no disrespect to Justin either, I am honored to have gotten the chance to compete. I have not played any pool at all in the last three months-before that I was practicing only 3 cushion billiards. I have no hard feelings towards Justin, I just realize that he wanted to let me know who's side he was on by making his post about how he had $2000.00 for John and I promise yall that he did make no offer to me. So I do think he shot himself in the foot a little with that particular post, I hold no grudges and understand where I stand with TAR. Mr. 400 lost the first time we played and I do think the game needs to be played.
I guess I could say also that when I was practicing every day a while back and I asked John for the 3rd all around rematch - and he said no (in his own elequent way) that John was being difficult also as they had raised $2000.00 free money for him - but it is a long wait to be eaten by a goat and that takes time to digest ie knowone likes to lose. It's a little dry 4 me inLas Vegas desert - but I am glad that pool is coming out of the recession.
lol, I saw you on the stream at Derby City playing pool at the end of January.
not to mention the weekly 10 ball race to 3/ barbox that he wins about 80% of the time
I believe this was pointed at me, so here goes.
Daniell Hill
267 Royallmanor Lane
Ofallon, MO 63368
I've posted my name and contact on here 100 times. I am always honest and often speak my mind. I can assure you that I would not post a word I wouldn't say in person, save not trying to embarass someone in person. I see no need to dance around the fact that of Danny's last 20 posts, at least 20% have been demeaning and rude to someone. Playing pool well gives no one the right to be a jerk. I have edited my first post as I had no reason to call him a name personally, but that doesn't change the fact that he needs to correct some personal issues of his.
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Man up Danny....you didn't forget how to play. Just don't dog it and you can win.
My vote is that someone play jeremy jones instead...hes not gonna duck. Plus JJ can dab it. I'm sure he can play some straight pool and hes got gamble.
This is getting ridiculous, $6k is a lot of money. If you got staked how much do you win to lose? Screw it put the money up for me and cleary to play...this is a golden opportunity
My vote is that someone play jeremy jones instead...hes not gonna duck. Plus JJ can dab it. I'm sure he can play some straight pool and hes got gamble.
This is getting ridiculous, $6k is a lot of money. If you got staked how much do you win to lose? Screw it put the money up for me and cleary to play...this is a golden opportunity
As has been said in so many pool rooms, so many times, for so many years:
If you're scared, just say you're scared.
Lou Figueroa
Yeh, but it makes for good reading though
and will make for a great match if it ever goes off!
I will pay $1000 to TAR to make a Black-balled vs Neil match happen! You heard it here. It has to take place in June or July though. I am drunk, but I am serious.
--Steve
--Steve
People like you think you know everything, don't you? 100's of these matches will never recover the money he has DONATED for the love of pool!
He does this because he truly loves the game and wants to see it grow!
S.G.
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Double Jizzle is definitely a prime candidate to get in the box with these two. Not sure bout his straight pool game but I'd say it's not obsolete. I would bet on him playing either one of these two at the other disciplines I think.