The Big Miss-Tiger Woods Book-Pool Connection

krelldog

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I'm about half way through the book and its a very interesting read. The book involves alot of dialouge between Tiger and his coach Hank Haney. There are a ton of parallels between golf and pool instruction.

Apparently Hank Haney is freinds/and a student of CJ Wiley, and Haney quotes CJ in the book-stating that there are no hard shots or easy shots- there all just shots that require the same preperation and concentration.

There is also a great reference to the book Talent is Overated regarding "deliberate practice"- which according to the author is the most difficult and highest level of practice because it requires painstaking focus on weaknesses.

If you put the politics of the book-specifically Hank Haney violating Tiger's privacy aside........this is a great read especially regarding practice/tournament preperation/and mental focus.
 
here is a couple cj wiley quote for you

" It's certainly frustrating if you don't have a good system....but isn't anything??? .... pool's ends up being very simple because you learn to do the same thing basically over and over.....one theme with about 8 variations ."

"I went through a period where I made the "hard" shots and missed some "easy" shots....the root of this problem was telling myself that there was a difference, and when your mind is under the illusion that there's a difference then it effects consistency .... when your mind is under the illusion that ALL SHOTS ARE THE SAME.....it leads us to greater consistency ....when I really became a champion was the day I understood how to create this illusion "There are no "hard" shots OR "easy" shots...they are ALL JUST SHOTS" ....this could be considered "pool enlightenment"
 
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I'm not surprised by this. I watch the Haney Project on the Golf Channel and there was an episode in season 1, with Charles Barkley, at Charles' house where the two of them played pool. As I recall, Hank had a pretty decent stroke and plays pretty well for a non-player.

I've never heard that CJ quote before and it may be one of the best I've ever gotten. They really are all just shots. When we think differently, we miss those easy ones because we don't give them proper regard. We make the hard ones because we give them proper regard. They all need that same attention.

Brian in VA
 
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here is a couple cj wiley quote for you

" It's certainly frustrating if you don't have a good system....but isn't anything??? .... pool's ends up being very simple because you learn to do the same thing basically over and over.....one theme with about 8 variations ."

"I went through a period where I made the "hard" shots and missed some "easy" shots....the root of this problem was telling myself that there was a difference, and when your mind is under the illusion that there's a difference then it effects consistency .... when your mind is under the illusion that ALL SHOTS ARE THE SAME.....it leads us to greater consistency ....when I really became a champion was the day I understood how to create this illusion "There are no "hard" shots OR "easy" shots...they are ALL JUST SHOTS" ....this could be considered "pool enlightenment"
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Sooooo true, there are many parallels between golf and pool.

I've often viewed pool as 2D, golf as 3D of the similar game.

Example:

You still should pick a spot on the back side of the cup to hit with a two foot putt.
You should still know where you want the cue ball to rest after pocketing the 2 foot straight in shot. .....no shots are ordinary.
 
Great advice, consistency is probably the hardest thing to achieve for anyone below an A+ level player....me for one. What a great, simple idea. Thanks!
 
Johnny Archer was reading Hank Haney's book in London at the Mosconi Cup and loved it

krelldog said:
I'm about half way through the book and its a very interesting read. The book involves alot of dialouge between Tiger and his coach Hank Haney. There are a ton of parallels between golf and pool instruction.

Apparently Hank Haney is freinds/and a student of CJ Wiley, and Haney quotes CJ in the book-stating that there are no hard shots or easy shots- there all just shots that require the same preperation and concentration.

There is also a great reference to the book Talent is Overated regarding "deliberate practice"- which according to the author is the most difficult and highest level of practice because it requires painstaking focus on weaknesses.

If you put the politics of the book-specifically Hank Haney violating Tiger's privacy aside........this is a great read especially regarding practice/tournament preperation/and mental focus.
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Johnny Archer was reading Hank Haney's book in London at the Mosconi Cup and loved it. I just ran across this thread in a Google Search of all places, I've been going to pick up a copy of this book, but the last two places I looked in Dallas was sold out.

Hank Haney and I did a LOT of work together in a 2 year span before he started working with Tiger Woods exclusively. There are many close relationships between golf and pool, aside from the obvious differences. The "zones," and increasing visual margins of error are something I use consistently in Pool. There are many others that I've listed in past posts.

There's a much more detailed version of Tiger Woods using my "no hard shots or easy shots, just shots" philosophy that I'll tell one day if anyone's interested.

Hank Haney taught me a lot about the wrists and hands, as far as their function in golf, and I found it really enhanced my pool stroke as well.


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pictured above with me: Mark O'meara and Hank Haney, and two owners of 'Pebble Beach' during a golf round.
 
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