7 Ball, why isn't it played more?

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Are there standardized rules? It's intriguing, you have to pick a side of the table to pocket your balls into , depending the version. Limited safety play. At least that's my understanding?

It seems like it would be a great TV game. I'd love to watch the Pro's play.

I've never even seen a seven ball rack.
 
Type it into youtube and watch videos. It was played as sudden death 7 ball on ESPN for a while. If you miss, opponent gets ball in hand.

Game is too easy and could never be played again on TV. SVB could run 30 racks in a row of 7 ball.
 
Coz you keep dickin arouind the forum.

Now get out there and play some 7b!

You can do it!
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Speaking of difficulty of games and worthiness of play, I came up with a variation of 8 Ball I've been meaning to share. Historically I've played bank the 8 or last pocket to add something to standard 8 ball. A friend of mine plays on a predominantly spanish speaking 8 ball league with some interesting rules that he tried to relay to me. About a week later I tried remembering them, but totally misunderstood what he had told me and in the process created a new thing. I still call it Spanish Pool though it's my own fabrication.

Essentially, it's standard 8 ball. Rack with the two balls behind the 8 ball in a matching color (2/10, 4/11, etc.). These balls need to be pocketed in the side pocket oposite the side they are racked. If one of these balls is pocketed in a different pocket it gets spotted. I play that this is not a foul if you call the pocket, which often sets up a series of positioning shots. Vary the rules as you like. Coin table; call it a foul instead of spotting. Generally we've been playing if your oponent hits your ball in it stays in.

This variation has become a house favorite on free pool night. Sometimes there's a waiting list that might take a half hour before you get to shoot. After such a wait, the last thing you want is the guy to break and run out on you. With the added difficulty, I also think it's a more interesting game to watch.
 
Are there standardized rules? It's intriguing, you have to pick a side of the table to pocket your balls into , depending the version. Limited safety play. At least that's my understanding?

It seems like it would be a great TV game. I'd love to watch the Pro's play.

I've never even seen a seven ball rack.
The standard 7-ball rules are included in the World Standardized Rules.

For the original "pick a side" version (I believe Jerry Brieseth came up with the concept):

I think it *was* intriguing and could have been an interesting professional game. Because it's only 7 balls, I don't know if that holds it back.

I'd like to see it where the 7-ball is not racked in the middle so that it can randomly work its way to favor one side of the table. If it sits in the middle of the rack untouched/unmoved, then the whole concept of 7-ball is lost.

And for those of you who only have seen the "Sudden Death 7-ball," the original "pick which side the 7-ball goes in" was much more interesting.

Freddie
 
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Interestingly, the group at my office is running a 7 ball sudden death tourney right now. It is a new game to just about everyone, but we've been enjoying it a bunch so far.

It is a fun game, though it seems like with very good players, it would basically be just a bunch of break & runs, and whoever ends up winning the lag on the sudden death game wins.
 
why not just shorten the game to a lag contest? Or even better, eliminate the balls completely and just bet on the coin flip.
 
Speaking of difficulty of games and worthiness of play, I came up with a variation of 8 Ball I've been meaning to share. Historically I've played bank the 8 or last pocket to add something to standard 8 ball. A friend of mine plays on a predominantly spanish speaking 8 ball league with some interesting rules that he tried to relay to me. About a week later I tried remembering them, but totally misunderstood what he had told me and in the process created a new thing. I still call it Spanish Pool though it's my own fabrication.

Essentially, it's standard 8 ball. Rack with the two balls behind the 8 ball in a matching color (2/10, 4/11, etc.). These balls need to be pocketed in the side pocket oposite the side they are racked. If one of these balls is pocketed in a different pocket it gets spotted. I play that this is not a foul if you call the pocket, which often sets up a series of positioning shots. Vary the rules as you like. Coin table; call it a foul instead of spotting. Generally we've been playing if your oponent hits your ball in it stays in.

I like your Spanish 8 ball game variation.
The 7/15 colors would be a good choice to remember.
Thanks for sharing.
 
The standard 7-ball rules are included in the World Standardized Rules.

For the original "pick a side" version (I believe Jerry Brieseth came up with the concept):

I think it *was* intriguing and could have been an interesting professional game. Because it's only 7 balls, I don't know if that holds it back.

I'd like to see it where the 7-ball is not racked in the middle so that it can randomly work its way to favor one side of the table. If it sits in the middle of the rack untouched/unmoved, then the whole concept of 7-ball is lost.

And for those of you who only have seen the "Sudden Death 7-ball," the original "pick which side the 7-ball goes in" was much more interesting.

Freddie

I've "plunked" around at it my younger years. It's pretty much forgotten. It was great for poor kids on a coin op table, you could get two games.
 
The standard 7-ball rules are included in the World Standardized Rules.

For the original "pick a side" version (I believe Jerry Brieseth came up with the concept):

I think it *was* intriguing and could have been an interesting professional game. Because it's only 7 balls, I don't know if that holds it back.

I'd like to see it where the 7-ball is not racked in the middle so that it can randomly work its way to favor one side of the table. If it sits in the middle of the rack untouched/unmoved, then the whole concept of 7-ball is lost.

And for those of you who only have seen the "Sudden Death 7-ball," the original "pick which side the 7-ball goes in" was much more interesting.

Freddie

7 Ball was created and copyrighted by Charles Ursitti. He created the game for the first women's pro televised tournament. It was commentated by Alan Hopkins and Willie Mosconi. I was WPBA President at the time and negotiated the contract for that event along with Paul Balukas, WPBA Executive Director. Picking the side of the table was also Charlie's creation.

It is not one of the games listed in WPA World Standardized Rules, although it did manage to find it's way into the BCA rule book.

I believe there was at least one subsequent TV 7 Ball event played by the men which was also promoted by Charlie and produced by Bill Cayton's Big Fights.
 
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Speaking of difficulty of games and worthiness of play, I came up with a variation of 8 Ball I've been meaning to share. Historically I've played bank the 8 or last pocket to add something to standard 8 ball. A friend of mine plays on a predominantly spanish speaking 8 ball league with some interesting rules that he tried to relay to me. About a week later I tried remembering them, but totally misunderstood what he had told me and in the process created a new thing. I still call it Spanish Pool though it's my own fabrication.

Essentially, it's standard 8 ball. Rack with the two balls behind the 8 ball in a matching color (2/10, 4/11, etc.). These balls need to be pocketed in the side pocket oposite the side they are racked. If one of these balls is pocketed in a different pocket it gets spotted. I play that this is not a foul if you call the pocket, which often sets up a series of positioning shots. Vary the rules as you like. Coin table; call it a foul instead of spotting. Generally we've been playing if your oponent hits your ball in it stays in.

This variation has become a house favorite on free pool night. Sometimes there's a waiting list that might take a half hour before you get to shoot. After such a wait, the last thing you want is the guy to break and run out on you. With the added difficulty, I also think it's a more interesting game to watch.

A similar game called 1-15 Eight Ball has been around forever. Whoever has low balls must shoot the one in the side and the player who has the high balls must shoot the fifteen in the other side pocket. It adds a great degree of difficulty to a game of Eight Ball.
 
7 Ball was created and copyrighted by Charles Ursitti. He created the game for the first women's pro televised tournament. It was commentated by Alan Hopkins and Willie Mosconi. I was WPBA President at the time and negotiated the contract for that event along with Paul Balukas, WPBA Executive Director. Picking the side of the table was also Charlie's creation.

It is not one of the games listed in WPA World Standardized Rules, although it did manage to find it's way into the BCA rule book.



Thanks for the corrections Fran!

I was consistent... I was wrong about everything!!!

I believe there was at least one subsequent TV 7 Ball event played by the men which was also promoted by Charlie and produced by Bill Cayton's Big Fights.
The first (if not all of the) Mosconi vs Fats WWoS event used Ursitti's 7-ball as well.

Freddie
 
Thanks for the corrections Fran!

I was consistent... I was wrong about everything!!!

The first (if not all of the) Mosconi vs Fats WWoS event used Ursitti's 7-ball as well.

Freddie

LOL! Hey Fred, you're right about the Mosconi vs. Fats event. That might have been the one I was thinking of but couldn't remember. Can't remember if there were any others.
 
A similar game called 1-15 Eight Ball has been around forever. Whoever has low balls must shoot the one in the side and the player who has the high balls must shoot the fifteen in the other side pocket. It adds a great degree of difficulty to a game of Eight Ball.

That's how they play it at my billiard club out in the desert. I haven't given it much of a try but it just seems to me that it basically is an equalizer, often giving the lesser skilled player more of a chance to "catch-up" in most every rack. Maybe I'll have to give it more of a shot. I suppose a good player could use this to his advantage - "Hey, look how close these games have been, I can't give you any more weight". :D
 
check out the 7 ball matches on youtube, i think it was UJ Puckett and Irving Crane, or maybe Fats. Type it in and watch :)
 
I'll play it as soon as I can find one of those kick ass striped 7 balls..

seriously I've been looking for one of those balls for years..

I know someone on here has more than one.. lemme know what you want for one
 
I'll play it as soon as I can find one of those kick ass striped 7 balls..

seriously I've been looking for one of those balls for years..

I know someone on here has more than one.. lemme know what you want for one


I'm pretty sure Mueller's sells them, if not maybe Seybert's had them.
 
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