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TATE

TATE

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Does anybody recognize this cue?

It has some distincitive ring work. The unknown cue is about 25 years old and has sharp points. All I have is a couple of photos and I am trying to help the original owner ID it (it was a gift from his mom). I suspect it's an import but I'm hoping someone recognizes it.

Chris
 

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Not a clue. But man, when you have trouble identifying a cue, it's a puzzle indeed!
 
I was gonna say, ask Tate, but I'm sure you already tried yourself.

Sure looks like it feels imported. Are those boxes stacked, mitered or dropped in (ala Schon)?

Kevin
 
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It is probably just the picture but it looks like there is clear coat over the wrap. I have no idea what it is but I like the ring work and points.
 
Chris that is almost certainly an old Taiwan import, circa 1970's to early 80's. I've seen similar cues in the distant past. Take a good look at the wood and the inlays. I used to buy cues of this quality for $40-50 from Imperial and sell them for $75-100. For imported cues they were pretty good and I rarely had one come back on me. I'd value this cue (if it's still straight) at around $75-100.
 
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jay helfert said:
Chris that is almost certainly an old Taiwan import, circa 1970's to early 80's. I've seen similar cues in the distant past. Take a good look at the wood and the inlays. I used to buy cues of this quality for $40-50 from Imperial and sell them for $75-100.
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Thanks Jay, I have some old National and Imperial catalogs with nearly identical cues and that's what I thought too. They had a "Pro Line" which were the better cues.

Chris
 
I have the same cue!

TATE said:
Does anybody recognize this cue?

It has some distincitive ring work. The unknown cue is about 25 years old and has sharp points. All I have is a couple of photos and I am trying to help the original owner ID it (it was a gift from his mom). I suspect it's an import but I'm hoping someone recognizes it.

Chris
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I have the exact same cue. I bought it for $86 a few years ago on eBay, because I thought it might be something. Showed it to several of the cue makers at the Atlanta Expo two years ago, and though they could not identify it, they agreed it was a nice quality Asian import probably from the '80s. Mine has some damage, and I've been unable to sell it for anything.

Donny L
PBIA/ACS Instructor
 
Chris i usually go to you with cue ???'s, I'm pretty switched on from cues of that era-i think Jay nailed it. I dont believe its american either
 
Donny Lutz said:
I have the exact same cue. I bought it for $86 a few years ago on eBay, because I thought it might be something. Showed it to several of the cue makers at the Atlanta Expo two years ago, and though they could not identify it, they agreed it was a nice quality Asian import probably from the '80s. Mine has some damage, and I've been unable to sell it for anything.

Donny L
PBIA/ACS Instructor
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Thanks for the info, Donny.
 
Fatboy said:
Chris i usually go to you with cue ???'s, I'm pretty switched on from cues of that era-i think Jay nailed it. I dont believe its american either
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Thanks Eric - I have enough old literature to sink a battleship and I still can't believe cues pop up that I haven't seen. :smile:
 
kvinbrwr said:
I was gonna say, ask Tate, but I'm sure you already tried yourself.

Sure looks like it feels imported. Are those boxes stacked, mitered or dropped in (ala Schon)?

Kevin
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Next time you're in my office area, I want to show you my lateral file cabinets with cue brochures and the new chihuahua that found our back yard and we eventually adopted. She gets along fine with the cats but is 8pounds of pure living hell on other dogs and UPS guys.

The boxes looked liked glued up stacked veneers, then resawn and mitered in. This is consistent with the handwork being done at the time.
 

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TATE said:
Next time you're in my office area, I want to show you my lateral file cabinets with cue brochures and the new chihuahua that found our back yard and we eventually adopted. She gets along fine with the cats but is 8pounds of pure living hell on other dogs and UPS guys.

The boxes looked liked glued up stacked veneers, then resawn and mitered in. This is consistent with the handwork being done at the time.
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OMG who would let that sweet pooch go? Good of you guys to adopt like that.

Who wins the face offs pooch or bengal?

Kevin
 
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OMG who would let that sweet pooch go? Good of you guys to adopt like that.

Who wins the face offs pooch or bengal?

Kevin
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She really is the sweetest most loving little dog - we all just fell in love with her. My daughter named her "Baby" against my loud, indignant objections.

Baby wants to play with the cats and they try, but cats kind of freak out when even a little dog barks and circles them. It's a good thing cats are so agile. It's a really good thing dogs can't open refrigerators, or there would never be an ounce of food in the house!
 
TATE said:
She really is the sweetest most loving little dog - we all just fell in love with her. My daughter named her "Baby" against my loud, indignant objections.

Baby wants to play with the cats and they try, but cats kind of freak out when even a little dog barks and circles them. It's a good thing cats are so agile. It's a really good thing dogs can't open refrigerators, or there would never be an ounce of food in the house!
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I've always found that cats, even when they want to be friendly, get a little freaked out by a dog's energy. And baby is probably just crazy with it. That's a great addition to your home.
 
Wouldn't an asian cuemaker use materials he can access easily,,,like from his own country?
 
Yup, it's an Asian import..."Taiwan" cue.

They were sold under various brand names. Imperial and National were mentioned, but there were others.

Personally, I like that cue. It's interesting and probably decent construction.


Wouldn't an asian cuemaker use materials he can access easily,,,like from his own country?
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They also used and use the same materials found in domestic cues...like the maple shafts. Generally the very low end ones are made with things like ramin wood and other Asian woods. Ramin is endangered now, that's why you don't see so many of the cheap cues made of it anymore.


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you were recommended

Hi Tate, i have this Lucasi Buddy Hall Custom Cue. would you know if it has a model#, year made, and cost? i got it for a good deal but cant find any info on it. the only thing i saw was someone selling one on ebay used for $400. I was told you were the person to ask. any help will do thanks.
 

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National Merchandise of Virginia. A company very much like National Billiards but without the rich history in the US. They sold their own line of imported Taiwan cues, cases and other accessories starting in the early 80's IIRC.

Sherm
 
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