New york Sharks vs New York Players at Amsterdam Billiards Saturday night.

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At 7:00 on Saturday night, November 17th, two pro teams will play at Amsterdam Billiards. The New York Players, from Steinway Billiards in Queens will play the New York Sharks from Amsterdam Billiards in Manhattan. It will be an exhibition game to try to kick off a series of city based team games.

The New York Players: Earl Strickland, Oscar Bonilla, Jorge Rodriguez, and Manny Stamatakis.

The New York Sharks: Tony Robles, Jennifer Barretta, Zion Zvi, and Sean "Alaska" Morgan.

The rules to the match are below. It should take about an hour and a half. Everyone is invited and there is no admission fee.

Please come and watch. It will help everyone.

Thanks,
Jim

MATCH RULES:
ONE TABLE
4 active players on each team
An additional 2 players will be on each team for substitutions.

One race to 12
Players can play in any order.

No player on either side can win more than 3 games.

If a substitution is made, the substituted player takes on the win-loss record of the original player. Substitution is permanent.

Team losing the first toss or lag puts up the first player.
Team winning the first toss or lag breaks the first game and picks the game to be played.
8-Ball, 9-Ball, 10-Ball, or Straight Pool (Straight pool is a race to 16 with a ball in hand break and one ball off the rack).

After the first coin toss or lag, any team that wins the game puts up the next player. The losing team breaks the next game and picks the next game to be played.

One coach per game.

There will be no practicing by team members after the start of the match.

There will be a 10-minute break at mid point mutually agreed upon by both teams.

There will be no individual breaks during games except for emergencies.

Rules on each game will be mandated by the team that picks the game.(Call 9-ball, etc. 3 scratches in a row is a loss in the a straight pool game)

All disputes will be decided by the referee.
 
New York teams

Jim,
I will be watching how this works out.
I wish you the best of luck.

Btw - say hi to Sean Morgan from me.
He is (obviously) from Alaska, as am I.

Mark Griffin
 
What other cities do you thing are going to get involved? or is it just a NYC thing. Also Jim you said the kick off to a series of city events. Any kind of a schedule? Please let us know. Thanks
 
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8-Ball, 9-Ball, 10-Ball, or Straight Pool (Straight pool is a race to 16 with a ball in hand break and one ball off the rack).
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Jim:

What is this -- bolded part above? Are you saying "race to 16" to mean 16 balls (points)? (This would not be a good test at all for some of these players -- for many of them are straight pool players and, with the BIH/hand-placed break ball situation -- will run those 16 points right off the bat without any problems. I know I would.)

Or, is it a race to 16 racks with the BIH/hand-placed break ball on each rack? (This is a more reasonable test.)

Let us know,
-Sean
 
Jim:

What is this -- bolded part above? Are you saying "race to 16" to mean 16 balls (points)? (This would not be a good test at all for some of these players -- for many of them are straight pool players and, with the BIH/hand-placed break ball situation -- will run those 16 points right off the bat without any problems. I know I would.)

Or, is it a race to 16 racks with the BIH/hand-placed break ball on each rack? (This is a more reasonable test.)

Let us know,
-Sean

This is what it says it is. 16 balls. The player has to break and break through the next rack and get one ball. On the surface it looks easy, but I don't think it is any easier than a pro breaking a 9 ball rack and getting a shot on the one ball. It is only one game that can be played in a race to 12. Your point is very good. You can do it. Maybe some of the 9 ball players can't always do it. And there will be pressure. Just think if you're playing Earl in a hill/hill game and you get a bad roll. I've seen it happen a million times when things just don't work out the way you want.

The fact is that it is also a point of strategy, where straight pool can be used against a player who isn't used to it. And if it is your call and pick straight pool, then you will be guaranteed to run out, or will you?

9 and 10 tables

There are other teams in the works, but I want to make sure that we have enough people on board with the idea laid out in my Sharks episode 19. If I am sure that the players will make enough money doing this, then we will go ahead. We will need 8 teams within driving distance, within any region. This first game will be presented on video in about two weeks for free. If there is a good reaction, a re-match will be played and the video of that will be sold on PPV.

This is one of the few things that you will do as a pool player that will have a direct effect on your future and your fellow players. If it makes enough money, we're off!

Thanks,
Jim
 
Good luck Jim. I had a feeling as others probably did as well, that there was a method to your madness by introducing this scenario into your movies.
 
This is what it says it is. 16 balls. The player has to break and break through the next rack and get one ball. On the surface it looks easy, but I don't think it is any easier than a pro breaking a 9 ball rack and getting a shot on the one ball. It is only one game that can be played in a race to 12. Your point is very good. You can do it. Maybe some of the 9 ball players can't always do it. And there will be pressure. Just think if you're playing Earl in a hill/hill game and you get a bad roll. I've seen it happen a million times when things just don't work out the way you want.

The fact is that it is also a point of strategy, where straight pool can be used against a player who isn't used to it. And if it is your call and pick straight pool, then you will be guaranteed to run out, or will you?

...snip...


If I understand this format correctly... Anytime my team lost, I'd put up my best straight pool player, because he gets BIH break. Seems like a HUGE advantage to me. Let him/her try to get their 3 W's this way.

It'll be interesting to see if it plays out this way. There's going to be a lot of strategy involved!

I hope it is a big success Jim!
 
If I understand this format correctly... Anytime my team lost, I'd put up my best straight pool player, because he gets BIH break. Seems like a HUGE advantage to me. Let him/her try to get their 3 W's this way.

It'll be interesting to see if it plays out this way. There's going to be a lot of strategy involved!

I hope it is a big success Jim!

Yes, but the way I figure it, it isn't any larger advantage than having Earl or Tony break a 9-ball rack after they won. At least in this, it will be more like tennis, where the person who has the break has the advantage, but you give up the break if you win. So it should rock back and forth, except if someone makes a mistake and it will be like breaking someone's serve in tennis.

Thanks
 
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