Dechaine vs Feijen grudge match

Mike Dechaine and Brandon Shuff are very good players with very good reumes. They are the future of the sport. They both have won tournaments at a pro level and have had real nice wins gambling. On another note, in the world we live into today, the international pool seen is very very strong. There are players across the pond we have never even heard of that could spot these guys gambling. Niels plays against these guys on a regular basis. He is playing world class players from China, Japan, Philphines, and Europe. He is a better player than Mike Dechaine.

Mike very well could be spotting Niels in a year or two. But right now. He is not gonna get there.
 
I don't see MD being able to hang with Neils over the long run. I have seen Mike give up, Neils is a rock.
 
bestinthezest said:
Mike Dechaine and Brandon Shuff are very good players with very good reumes. They are the future of the sport. They both have won tournaments at a pro level and have had real nice wins gambling. On another note, in the world we live into today, the international pool seen is very very strong. There are players across the pond we have never even heard of that could spot these guys gambling. Niels plays against these guys on a regular basis. He is playing world class players from China, Japan, Philphines, and Europe. He is a better player than Mike Dechaine.

Mike very well could be spotting Niels in a year or two. But right now. He is not gonna get there.
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I agree, what I was seeing in his play was a lack of seasoning.
 
I'd love to get a bet in on Neils if this ever goes down...I'll empty out if the game is 14.1.
 
RunoutJJ said:
I was responding to the fact that he said they would've won it all if Oscar was in place of Shuff. Which again is ridiculous considering the Cup is won in a team effort.
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Jeez, can you dial it back? Thug (politely) said Dechaine is getting a lot of flak but he's young and just needs to have a sort of moment of inspiration.

Suggesting someone else might have done better than shuff... those aren't fightin' words, it's a fair statement. Yeah, it's a team sport, but sometimes one guy makes all the difference. That's why they have an MVP award.

IMO, you can't field a team with two nervous newcomers. Having one is ok... it can't be the same players year after year. But with two, there's a big burden on the vets to carry them, coach them through their nerves, and stack up wins to offset the inevitable rough patches.
 
Do they have a history of gambling each other? If so, I see how it's a grudge match or do they just have a distaste for one another.

I really like Niels, he's a pretty classy player the time's I've been around him while playing.
 
I don't know if Feijen gambles, but I'm sure Mike would play him. And I would bet on Mike playing playing 10ball. If they play, let me know who wants some action. Anyone but Tommy...
 
corvette1340 said:
Feijen would horsef@#$ Dechaine.
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If you are going by how he played in his Mosconi Cup matches you are in for a surprise. Remember Mike is the guy that ran out a set of 10-ball (I think he ran 8 racks) when he played Archer in a tournament. He also put up a bunch of 4+ packs in tournaments. Race to 5 alternate break is not a judge of skill. How many kicks were made and then got an unlucky scratch? A simple unlucky shot like that often means you are 2 games down in alternate break.

Yes, Mike played horribly in the Cup, he played well under his ability and cost US several points where they should have won (doubles match with Shuff on the hill and he missed a pretty easy 6 ball for the win is one). But he is pretty much even with anyone else you can match him with. I would say he is an underdog with only a handful of players, Neils is not one of those.
 
CreeDo said:
Jeez, can you dial it back? Thug (politely) said Dechaine is getting a lot of flak but he's young and just needs to have a sort of moment of inspiration.

Suggesting someone else might have done better than shuff... those aren't fightin' words, it's a fair statement. Yeah, it's a team sport, but sometimes one guy makes all the difference. That's why they have an MVP award.

IMO, you can't field a team with two nervous newcomers. Having one is ok... it can't be the same players year after year. But with two, there's a big burden on the vets to carry them, coach them through their nerves, and stack up wins to offset the inevitable rough patches.
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This was Dechaine's second Mosconi Cup in a row, he played bad in this one though. We need 5 Archers hehe.
 
hang-the-9 said:
If you are going by how he played in his Mosconi Cup matches you are in for a surprise. Remember Mike is the guy that ran out a set of 10-ball (I think he ran 8 racks)

I would say he is an underdog with only a handful of players, Neils is not one of those.
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Sorry, 'Vette. There appear to be som folks who must be shown:

http://www.nielsfeijen.nl/content.php?id=3
Curriculum Vitae


2012
Winner Dutch 8ball GP, Amsterdam
Winner Dutch 9ball GP, Rotterdam
Winner Bundesliga Season '11/'12 with BC Oberhausen
Winner China invitational 9ball, Beijing
2nd place European 14.1 Championships, LUX
2nd place Longoni Benelux 10ball Open, Leuven
2nd place Dutch 10ball GP, Nijmegen
2nd place Leids Open 9ball, Leiden
3rd place Hilversum Open 9ball, Hilversum
5th place Derby City One Pocket, USA
5th place Eurotour Austria
5th place Swedish 10ball Open

2011
Winner Mosconi Cup
Winner MVP award Mosconi Cup
Winner Hangelar Open, Germany
Winner Woensel Open 9ball, Holland
Winner Dutch 10ball grand prix Weert, Holland
Winner Bundesliga season '10/'11 wih BC Oberhausen
2nd place World 8ball Championships, Fujairah, UAE
3rd place Derby City Classic 9ball, Louisville, USA
3rd place Paris Open 9ball, France
3rd place Shanghai 9ball Open
3rd place Eurotour Italy
3rd place Eurotour Paris, France
5th place Derby City Classic One Pocket, Louisville, USA

2010
Winner Eurotour Paris, France
Winner Rotterdam Open, Netherlands
Winner Hangelar Open, Germany
Winner Bundesliga season 09/10 with BC Oberhausen
Winner Team event Aruba
2nd place World 8-ball Championships, Fujairah, UAE
2nd place European 10-ball Championships Zagreb, Croatia
2nd place Vigo Open 9ball
2nd place Leuven 10ball Open, Belgium
3rd place Predator 10ball event, Llorett de Mar, Spain
3rd place Ultimate 10ball event, Aruba
5th place Eurtour Venice, Italy
9th place Amsterdam 8ball Open, Netherlands
9th place World Cup of Pool, Philippines
9th place Gstaad 10ball Open, Switserland

2009
Award for honourable membership into the National Billiard Federation
Winner Eurotour Paris, France
Winner European 10-ball Open, Oberhausen, Germany
Winner "Killer 8" 9-ball Open, Saint Maur, France
Nr 1 on the European Ranking
Invitation to the Mosconi Cup, 3rd year in a row.
Invitation to the Challenge of Champions, 5th year in a row!!
2nd place China 9ball Open
2nd place Lugo 9ball Open, Spain
2nd place Predator 10ball Porto Open, Portugal
2nd place European 14.1 Championships, Austria
2nd place HCP Blackpool Open, Finland
2nd place Biel 9-ball Open, Switserland
2nd place Dutch 14.1 Grand Prix Hengelo, Netherlands
2nd place Padoc Woerden 9ball Classic, Netherlands
3rd place Eurotour Rankweil, Austria
5th place World Cup of Pool, Philippines
5th place Qatar Open 9ball
5th place Cologne 10ball tournament, Germany
7th place Derby City One Pocket, Louisville, USA. Highest European finish ever.
9th place Eurotour Weert, Netherlands
9th place Eurotour Naples, Italy

2008
WORLD CHAMPION 14.1!!!!!!!!!, East Brunswick, USA
Winner Mosconi Cup together with team Europe, Malta
Winner Eurotour Malaga, Spain
Winner Longoni Cup, Jaen, Spain
Winner HCP Blackpool Open, Finland
Winner HOB Classic, Weert, Netherlands
Winner Dutch 8ball Championships, Deurne, Netherlands
Winner Dutch Ranking Masters 8-ball, Roosendaal, Netherlands
Winner Dutch Ranking Masters 9-ball, Roosendaal, Netherlands
Winner Dutch Grand Prix 14.1, Weert, Netherlands
Runner-up Qatar Open, Doha, Qatar
Runner-up Eurtour Ranking
Runner-up Derby City Classic 14.1 Challenge, Louisville, USA
Runner-up Athens Open, Greece
3rd place World 10-ball Championships, Manila, PHI
3rd place Challenge of Champions, Uncasville, USA
3rd place Eurotour Weert, Netherlands
3rd place Eurotour Rankweil, Austria
3rd place Paris Open, France
3rd place Padoc Woerden Open, Netherlands
3rd place Dutch 14.1 Championships, Deurne, Netherlands
3rd place Dutch 9ball Championships, Deurne, Netherlands
5th place Baribal Open, Tallinn, Estonia
5th place Eurotour Paris, France
5th place Eurotour Naples, Italy
9th place World 8ball Championships, Fujairah, UAE
9th place World Pool Masters, Las Vegas, USA
9th place Predator 10ball Championships, Las Vegas, USA
10-17th place Derby City Classic One Pocket, Louisville, USA

2007
Winner Derby City Classic 9-ball, Louisville, USA
Winner ESPN Challenge of Champions, Uncasville, USA
European Champion Straightpool, 4 wins out of the last 6 years, Liberec, Czech Republik
Winner Mosconi Cup with team Europe, Las Vegas, USA
1st place Euro Tour ranking
Winner Battle of Scandinavia 8-ball, Oslo, Norway
Winner Blaze tour stop Skyline Billiards, New York, USA
Winner Leids Open, Netherlands
Winner Groningen Open, Netherlands
Runner-up Billards Digest Player of the Year Award
Runner-up Weert 9-ball Classic, Netherlands
Runner-up Weert Open special event (with Thomas Engert), Netherlands
Runner-up Grand Prix 14.1, Nootdorp, Netherlands
3rd place World 8-ball Championships, Fujairah, UAE
3rd place Eurotour Malaga, Spain
3rd place Sittard Open, Netherlands
5th place Joss tour Turning Stone Classic, Verona, USA
5th place World Pool Masters, Egmond aan Zee, Netherlands
5th place European 9-ball Championships, Liberec, Czech Republik
5th place Grand Masters 8-ball, Cambridge, UK
5th place Weert Open, Netherlands
7th place US open warm-up one-pocket event, Chesapeake, USA
9th place US open 9-ball, Chesapeake, USA
9th place World 10-ball Championships, Jacksonville, USA
9th place World Straight Pool Championships, New Jersey, USA
9th place Eurotour Sindelfingen, Germany
9th place European 8-ball Championships, Liberec, Czech Republik
14th place Derby City Classic One-Pocket, Louisville, USA
17th place BCA 9-ball, Las Vegas, USA
17th place Eurotour Naples, Italy
17th place Eurour Liberec, Czech Republik
40th place Derby City Classic Banks, Louisville, USA

2006
1st place World Pool Billiards Association ranking
2nd place Euro Tour ranking
Challenge of Champions invitation, Uncasvilla, USA
Winner Rotterdam Open, Rotterdam, The Netherlands
Winner Grand Prix 9-ball, Weert, The Netherlands
Winner Grand Prix 9-ball, Deurne, The Netherlands
Runner-up EuroTour Malage, Spain
Runner-up World Pool League, Warsaw, Poland
Runner-up Dutch Ranking Masters, Weert, The Netherlands
3rd place European 9-ball Championship, Brandenburg, Germany
3rd place EuroTour Monfalcone, Italy
3rd place EuroTour Sindelfingen, Germany
3rd place EuroTour Rankweil, Austria
3rd place Grand Prix 9-ball, The Hague, The Netherlands
3rd place Grand Prix 9-ball, Groningen, The Netherlands
5th place World Pool Masters, Egmond aan Zee, The Netherlands
5th place European 14.1 Championship, Brandenburg, Germany
5th place EuroTour Weert, The Netherlands
9th place World Cup of Pool, Cardiff, Wales
9th place EuroTour Prague, Czech Republik
9th place Norwegian 9-ball Challenge, Oslo, Norway
9th place Weert Open, The Netherlands
12th place IPT Reno, USA (live TV coverage)
17th place European 8-ball Championship, Brandenburg, Germany
Last 36 IPT Las Vegas, USA (live TV coverage)
Sponsering by Loontjens Biljarts/Gabriels and Longoni Cues

2005
1st place EuroTour ranking
2nd place World Pool Billiards Association ranking
World Pool Masters invitation, England
Winner Big Apple 9-ball Challenge, New York, USA
Winner Viking National Championship, Villa Park (IL), USA
Winner EuroTour Weert, The Netherlands
Winner EuroTour Gent, Belgium
Winner Planet 9-ball Pool, Salisbury (NY), USA
Winner Leids Open, Leiden, The Netherlands
Runner up Dutch National Ranking Masters, Weert, The Netherlands
Runner up Grand Prix 14.1, Rotterdam, The Netherlands
Runner up Grand Prix 9-ball, Utrecht, The Netherlands
Runner up House of Billiards Classic, Weert, The Netherlands
3rd place World 8-ball Championship, Fujairah, UAE
3rd place Challenge of Champions
3rd place EuroTour Rankweil, Austria
3rd place EuroTour Monfalcone, Italy
3rd place European Team Championship, Veldhoven, The Netherlands
5th place World Games, Duisburg, Germany
9th place Joss Tour Finals, Turning Stone Casino, Verona (NY), USA
Mosconi Cup European Team by invitation (Matchroom Sport)
Dutch National team (European Championships, World Championships)
Prolongation Olympic A-status (sponsoring NOC*NSF, Dutch Olympic Committee)
Sponsoring by Loontjens Biljarts/Gabriels and Longoni

2004
1st place Dutch National Ranking
2nd place EuroTour ranking
Dutch Premier League Champion
European Champion Straight Pool for the 3rd consecutive year, Prague, Czech Republik
Skins Billiards Champion, Atlantic City, USA
European Champion Teams, Prague, Czech Republik
Winner Dutch National Champion 9-ball, Rotterdam, The Netherlands
Winner Oostende Open, Belgium
Winner 3rd Global 9-ball Classic, Weert, The Netherlands
Winner Groningen Open, The Netherlands
Winner 12th Dijkje's Leids Open, Leiden, The Netherlands
Winner 5th Weert Open Anniversary Straight Pool Tournament, The Netherlands
Winner Dutch Grand Prix 8-ball, Rotterdam, The Netherlands
Winner Dutch Grand Prix 14.1, Arnhem, The Netherlands
Winner Dutch Grand Prix 9-ball, Weert, The Netherlands
Winner Dutch Open 10-ball Ring Game, The Hague, The Netherlands
Runner up European Championship 8-ball, Prague, Czech Republik
Runner up EuroTour Rankweil, Austria
3rd place Dutch Grand Prix 8-ball, Sittard, The Netherlands
3rd place CEP 5th Anniversary 8-ball tournament Malaga, Spain
3rd place Rotterdam 9-ball Open, The Netherlands
3rd place US Open, Chesapeake, USA
3rd place World Pool Masters (Matchroom Sport), Egmond aan Zee, The Netherlands
5th place World 8-ball Championship, Fujairah, UAE
5th place EuroTour Monfalcone, Italy
5th place Dutch Open Straight Pool, The Hague, The Netherlands
9th place EuroTour Malaga, Spain 17th place European 9-ball Championship, Prague, Czech Republik
Mosconi Cup European Team by invitation (Matchroom Sport), Egmond aan Zee, The Netherlands
World Pool League by invitation (Matchroom Sport), Warsaw, Poland
Dutch National team (European Championships, World Championships)
Prolongation Olympic A-status (sponsoring NOC*NSF, Dutch Olympic Committee)
Sponsoring by Loontjens Biljarts and Longoni

2003
European Champion 14.1, 2nd consecutive title, Bialystok, Poland
Dutch record 9-ball run-outs, 15 consecutive racks!! The Hague, The Netherlands
Winner Centerpocket Open 2003, Sittard, The Netherlands
Winner Dutch Grand Prix 9-ball Ranking, The Netherlands
Winner Dutch Grand Prix 9-ball, Rotterdam, The Netherlands
Winner Dutch Grand Prix 8-ball, Sittard, The Netherlands
Winner 2nd Duintje Open, 2nd consecutive title, The Hague, The Netherlands
Winner Weert 9-ball Classic, The Netherlands
Runner up Gabriel's Las Vegas 9-ball Open, USA
Runner up Joss NE 9-ball Tour, Salisbury, MD, USA
Runner up Dutch Open, Arnhem, The Netherlands
3rd place EuroTour Weert (World Tour), The Netherlands
3rd place Aruba Open (World Tour), Aruba
5th place US Open 9-ball Championship, Chesapeake, USA
5th place Fury World Summit of Pool (UPA), New York
5th place Amsterdam Open, The Netherlands
5th place EuroTour Antwerp, Belgium
9th place World Pool Masters (live tv coverage), Egmond aan Zee, The Netherlands
9th place EuroTour Germany
9th place Big Apple 9-ball Challenge (World Tour), New York, USA
9th place Second Annual New Jersey State 14.1 Championship, USA
17th place World Pool Championships (live tv coverage), Cardiff, Wales
17th place BCA Open 9-ball Championships (by invitation), Las Vegas (World Tour), USA
17th place Mid Atlantic 9-ball Championship, USA
Prolongation Olympic A-status (sponsoring NOC*NSF)
Sponsoring by Loontjens Biljarts, Longoni and Thurston Rotterdam
 
Fiejen is a monster

Black-Balled said:
I don't see MD being able to hang with Neils over the long run. I have seen Mike give up, Neils is a rock.
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I agree. From an instructor's observational point of view, NF has better mechanics and a much stronger mental game.

NF and DA, despite losing that one match, may be one of the strongest duos ever.
 
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Oh...what? There's more?


Hmmmmm


2002
European Champion 14.1 (tv coverage), Tampere, Finland
Most Valuable Player Award, European Championship (tv coverage)
Dutch Champion 9-ball, Rotterdam, The Netherlands
Winner Weert Open (tv coverage), The Netherlands
Winner Rotterdam 9-ball Open (tv coverage), The Netherlands
Winner Sittard Open, The Netherlands
Winner Gent Open, Belgium
Winner Duintje Open, The Netherlands
Dutch record straight pool, 259 points
Runner Up EuroTour St. Petersburg, Russia (live tv coverage)
3rd place European 8-ball Championships, Tampere, Finland
3rd place European 9-ball Championships, Tampere, Finland
3rd place EuroTour Weert (tv coverage), The Netherlands
3rd place Oostende Open, Belgium
5th place Challenge of Champions, USA (ESPN tv coverage)
5th place Richmond Open, USA
Prolongation Olympic A-status (sponsoring NOC*NSF)

2001
Winner EuroTour, Tampere, Finland
Winner Groningen Open, The Netherlands
Winner Sittard Open, The Netherlands
Dutch Champion 8-ball, Arnhem, The Netherlands
Dutch pool player of the year
Runner Up Tokyo 9-ball Open (tv coverage in Asia), Japan
Runner Up Dutch Championship 9-ball, Leiden, The Netherlands
3rd place European Champion Teams, Czech Republik
5th place World 9-ball Championships (worldwide tv coverage), Cardiff, Wales
5th place US Open, Chesapeake, USA
9th place World Games in Japan, Dutch team
Mosconi Cup European Team (by invitation), London, UK
Prolongation Olympic A-status (sponsoring NOC*NSF)
2000
European Champion Teams, Bregenz, Austria
Dutch Straight Pool Champion, The Hague, The Netherlands
Winner British Masters, UK
Winner Sittard Open, The Netherlands
Dutch Player of the Year Award
Dutch Record Straight Pool Break, 257 points, Leidschendam, The Netherlands
Prolongation Olympic A-status (sponsoring NOC*NSF)

1999
3 months training in USA
Start mental training
Olympic A-status (sponsoring NOC*NSF)
Start professional pool career

1998
Dutch 9-ball Champion, Enschede, The Netherlands
Winner Greater Columbus Open, USA
2 tour-stop wins at the Viking tour, USA
6 months training in USA

1997
6 months training in USA
9th place US Open, Chesapeake, USA

1995/1996
Dutch Champion, Juniors, Landgraaf, The Netherlands
Winner Haags Open, The Hague, The Netherlands
Runner Up European Youth Team Championships, Luxemburg
3rd place European Youth Championships, Luxemburg
 
Black-Balled said:
Sorry, 'Vette. There appear to be som folks who must be shown:

http://www.nielsfeijen.nl/content.php?id=3
Curriculum Vitae


2012
Winner Dutch 8ball GP, Amsterdam
Winner Dutch 9ball GP, Rotterdam
Winner Bundesliga Season '11/'12 with BC Oberhausen
Winner China invitational 9ball, Beijing
2nd place European 14.1 Championships, LUX
2nd place Longoni Benelux 10ball Open, Leuven
2nd place Dutch 10ball GP, Nijmegen
2nd place Leids Open 9ball, Leiden
3rd place Hilversum Open 9ball, Hilversum
5th place Derby City One Pocket, USA
5th place Eurotour Austria
5th place Swedish 10ball Open
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While this is a nice long list, how does it show that he's better than Dechaine? For all we know, the "Leids Open" had 45 C players and Neils. Toyota has won a lot of awards also, but how many people would list one as their top pick if they could choose any car?
 
Oh yeah, black-balled...Mike's won the "New England 9-Ball Series Stop", "SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop", "UPA World Summit of Pool", "Larry Lisciotti Memorial", and the "Robert Dionne Memorial". Stuff that!
 
hang-the-9 said:
While this is a nice long list, how does it show that he's better than Dechaine? For all we know, the "Leids Open" had 45 C players and Neils. Toyota has won a lot of awards also, but how many people would list one as their top pick if they could choose any car?
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'Bundesliga Season '11/'12 with BC Oberhausen'

all you need to know!:grin::grin:
 
Sheer tournament experience alone should tell you this guy will probably feel less pressure than whoever he's playing, because he's in tournaments (and on TV) allllll the timeeeee. Also, did someone say 15-pack? Holy shit. And 259 in straight pool.

Not bad for a guy who's apparently mostly blind in one eye.
 
More on Dechaine:
http://www.azbilliards.com/thepros/2000showplayer2012.php?playernum=3604

2011 Winnings: $47,300
View 2011 Tournament Results

2010 Winnings: $25,885
View 2010 Tournament Results

2009 Winnings: $27,960
View 2009 Tournament Results

2008 Winnings: $15,550
View 2008 Tournament Results

2007 Winnings: $6,550
View 2007 Tournament Results

2006 Winnings: $3,100
View 2006 Tournament Results

2005 Winnings: $1,000
View 2005 Tournament Results

2004 Winnings: $350
View 2004 Tournament Results
 
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