lol be careful the black widow will put them on her feet and grab her cue haha
No more Meucci for this guy
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lol be careful the black widow will put them on her feet and grab her cue haha
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I have a couple of Meucci cues that are falling a part, shafts delaminated,
and the finsh is cracked . will you warranty them or should I post pictures.
MMike
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Um...well...trashed on the internet? LOL! No.
But I can tell you that plenty of players that I knew certainly did "trash talk" Meucci cues back in the 80's. I distinctly remember people picking on them because of all the plastic inlays and stuff like that.
Times have changed, we have the internet now. The trash talk has a bigger audience.
But whether you like it or not you must admit that Meucci's reputation for quality did decline severely. You can argue all you like about whether or not that is deserved but certainly it is true that the reputation did change.
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Come on. This makes no difference. So what do you say to the cue makers who don't own sawmills and yet somehow have managed to put out consistently good cues for longer than Meucci has been in business up through today?
Also please, this is nonsense about Bob going to the sawmill every day to select the wood. The wood from the sawmill would be fresh and not fit for cues for several months at the minimum to several years at the optimal. If Bob is that concerned about the wood then he would be selecting good wood from a variety of suppliers now. Do you honestly thing that the wood from the various suppliers now is of inferior quality to that which Bob milled himself? Sorry but this is simply not logical. Meucci is but one manufacturer among hundreds. If those other companies can get get good wood and properly season it then there is no reason why Meucci can't.
And another thing, the Meucci Originals logo'ed cues also had plenty of problems. I dealt in cues in the late 80s. No one wanted to work on Meucci cues because they had a reputation for falling apart on the lathe. Repairmen were afraid to do anything lest they have to rebuild or replace the cue.
Yes, Bob has some incredible designs. I personally think Bob deserves the credit for creating the "art" cue. Some of the things that are done now which people ohh and ahh over are things Bob did back in the 90s. As a designer he and/or his team have a flavor that no one else does. Meucci cues are simply beautiful. But please don't attempt to say that they were ever really well built because that is simply not true. Some came off the line and held together great and others would practically disintegrate.
The next thing I will hear is that someone's cue play great because he has his own forest. (inside joke).
asiasdad
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tap, tap, tap...most accurate post of this thread IMO
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Hey MeucciMan, can you tell us the difference between the Ultimate Weapon shaft and the Black dot? There was a thread on the Ultimate Weapon a few months back, but no one really had much experience with it.
Just curious about new low squirt shafts, that's why I ask.
Thank you.
Just curious about new low squirt shafts, that's why I ask.
Thank you.
The point is that Meucci cues have the reputation for poor quality that they have for a reason.
Perhaps the quality is now great but it was never such that Meucci Original logo cues were better than Meucci script logo cues.
As for Bob owning a saw mill and that being the only difference then what you are saying is that there is not or ought to now be any quality difference between then and now. Well if so then you and him ought to say that.
I personally don't think that the logo makes a difference. I do not think that Meucci OWES anyone anything regarding the use of the logo. I think people put way to much weight on the logo as if that marks a major shift in quality. It doesn't. It was merely a decision to use another logo. The methods and machines and wood selection didn't change - only the logo changed.
If people are collecting and putting a higher value on Meucci Original logo cues then that is on them. As long as a company is in business they have every right to use whatever logo they want to whenever they want to and for whatever reason. All this does is lead to confusion and speculation as to which version is better.
Having said that SOMETIMES a logo change IS accompanied by a change in manufacturing. For example a company might be making their stuff in one facility and switch to a new one and change the logo to differentiate between them. Or the new place might not be able to accurately replicate the original logo.
But for this case I think that the logo makes no difference in the cues. Good or bad the cues are what they are regardless of the logo used.
As for sales and the possibility that someone would get an 84-5 that was actually made in 2012 I say that is what the internet is for...doing your homework. Taking ten minutes to research what you want to buy and finding threads like this and then asking pointed questions. Anyone not willing to do that before shelling out more than a cue originally sold for in the thought that it's an "old" collectible cue is only taking on a lot of risk that they don't have to. No Meucci is so important that the buyer can't wait a day to do his research in my opinion.
Okay yall win, I state facts and people just respond like I have not got a clue of what I am talking about. It is cool, no hard feelings lol. I'm tapping out
Depends on the facts and how they are presented. To say that Meuccis weren't trash-talked in the Meucci Originals logo days is not correct. They were. Some people loved their Meuccis and other people hated them.
I have no doubt that you know a lot about Meucci. Most of us here however can speak about the brand from a consumer and dealer perspective. If you aren't willing to accept that then it's always going to be hard on you on this forum unfortunately.
Maybe you should get uncle Bob to spend some time on here and have him explain things from his perspective. Personally I have much love for Meucci's designs and I have had a few that I thought were great and others that I didn't care for at all as far as playability goes.
I don't think Meucci cues are that bad but you can't deny the reality of people's experiences across the board.
Probably a good idea-you are not going to win here-good try-but i think the damage has been done to this cue maker-at least on this forum.
But I will say this- Most Meucci designs are very well done-I really like a lot of them-just would not take a chance on one.:nono:
You are correct I can't deny this.
Bob does not care about his reputation or business ethics. He will do anything to make money. I too have several authentic Meucci Originals and it upsets me too that Bob would be so stupid to put a Meucci Original Logo on a reproduction cue just to make a dollar. This devalues the authentic Meucci Originals and only causes confusion. The reproduction cues do come with black dot shafts, but I suppose one can get regular shafts made for it. Which would add to the confusion. No wonder Bob is going broke.