I love it !! Greenies your way sir !! :thumbup:
JA vs MD push out after the break match.
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I love it !! Greenies your way sir !! :thumbup:
we just don't think the "run out" part of the game is that interesting.
It's not like Johnny and I don't break well, we just don't think the "run out" part of the game is that interesting or difficult.
We expect many to disagree, but it would be fair to it played before judging it to be one way or another. imo
If Johnny Archer broke for me I wouldn't hesitate to play the top 5 players in the country excluding Shane V. Does that mean I'm in the top 5? Not really, it just means the break is that strong.
It's not like Johnny and I don't break well, we just don't think the "run out" part of the game is that interesting or difficult.
We expect many to disagree, but it would be fair to it played before judging it to be one way or another. imo
If Johnny Archer broke for me I wouldn't hesitate to play the top 5 players in the country excluding Shane V. Does that mean I'm in the top 5? Not really, it just means the break is that strong.
You'll need to get to market first. I can't remember if it was Cleary or DerekDisco, but one of them proposed the "bucket rack" some time ago here on the boards....put all the balls in a bucket and dump'em on the table.
It comes back up, every now and again. Usually when the racking arguments get popular around here.
As your legal representative (licensed in the state of Aberzajhan) I would like to add a "Patent Pending" to the graphic.
And following my representation of Harley-Davidson, we should also patent the sound that billiard balls make when the collide, fall in a pocket or hit the table.
I don't think that MD and JA really get on too well. Maybe JA wants to take the break out of it so he can show his skills are more advanced and that just breaking and making balls only shows his skill level to a certain extent. By making the game a little harder to play he gets to show how big the differnce is in skill level. Just my thoughts not his. Also heard about MD Woofing at JA in the past too.
1. No picking lint off the table during a rack or the carpet nearby and no excessive observing the shot from every angle for 2 minutes. It's not One-pocket.
2. No touching the rail with your finger to show us where you want to hit. Just do it ok?
3. No tapping the cloth with the tip of your cue to let us know where you want whitey to stop.
4. A foul if you get down on the shot and get off it more than once.
5. Mute the microphone of the commentators so they can talk to themselves and declare what kind of english the shooter will put on the ball, as if we just took our first pool lesson last week.
6. No rubbing the shaft through your hands up in the air 4 or 5 times before you get down on the shot. There is no cue ball up there and it did not suddenly get sticky since you pocketed the last ball.
2. No touching the rail with your finger to show us where you want to hit. Just do it ok?
3. No tapping the cloth with the tip of your cue to let us know where you want whitey to stop.
4. A foul if you get down on the shot and get off it more than once.
5. Mute the microphone of the commentators so they can talk to themselves and declare what kind of english the shooter will put on the ball, as if we just took our first pool lesson last week.
6. No rubbing the shaft through your hands up in the air 4 or 5 times before you get down on the shot. There is no cue ball up there and it did not suddenly get sticky since you pocketed the last ball.
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What I don't understand is..
If so many pros agree that the break is such a huge part of the game, how is it that so few appear to have become expert at it?
I'd think a pro should understand the mechanics of a rack and have numerous break styles.
In some ways, sometimes, I see the racking as the beginning of the game. It's like a pitcher putting up a strike, you just have to know how to hit it.
I don't like this.
They are top pro pool players, if break is so important, then they should practice it and be competitive.
It's strange to hear that from JA, he had a monster break.
How JA plays One Pocket? There are matches with him on youtube?
They are top pro pool players, if break is so important, then they should practice it and be competitive.
It's strange to hear that from JA, he had a monster break.
How JA plays One Pocket? There are matches with him on youtube?
I agree! If you can't break as well as someone else, then I would suggest you put breaking into your practice routine until you can compete with them. You don't just change the rules because a person lacks a skill that is crucial to the game.
Mike said he will play regular 10ball or even rack your own 9ball. Johnny is a champ and beat Shane... he should jump on that.
You sly dog... I dunno if your lure will work on mike
Wasn't johnny the guy who played that crafty push on shane in their tar match, which shane lunged at and missed, giving johnny the all-clear to run out?
You know Johnny has to give up something playing this way. Everyone knows that you don't bite on the other guy's proposition.
Cleary, I am really not sure what JA's thought process is with wanting this game. In this thread I have posted the reasoning I can think of. I will be talking to him in a while and I will let him know. There may be a match in our future here.
the Game is the one that's the most upset at the current "state of the pool union"
The reason, in my opinion is there's not enough tournaments to become "expert at it," and even if you do it takes "upkeep". I has mastered certain aspects of the game including the break at times, however, it doesn't last without maintenance. Shane breaks really well, but if he didn't play for 3 weeks he would need 3 days of practice to get back where he is now.
There are 20 players that could break much better if there was a reason and then they could work and train to do it to the best of their abilities. Shane has this incentive because he's the only successful professional in the United States right now. There's just not enough pro tournaments like there were in the 90s to produce the best of the Pros games....not at all.
When I say "professional" I am clearly stating that he's the only one that can make a living playing pool (Mike D. was #2 last year and made less than 40k in prize money) and to do this he MUST travel outside the United States and play in every "special event" offered ie: Mosconi Cup, Streaming Video Matches, Challenge of Champions, etc.
What did first place pay in the DDC events? I know Max Eberle won the straight pool event and barely made more than his expense money back. This isn't what I would call a "Pro Event" when 90% of the field loses money. Just my opinion, and I'm just a "messenger", the Game is the one that's the most upset at the current "state of the pool union".
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The reason, in my opinion is there's not enough tournaments to become "expert at it," and even if you do it takes "upkeep". I has mastered certain aspects of the game including the break at times, however, it doesn't last without maintenance. Shane breaks really well, but if he didn't play for 3 weeks he would need 3 days of practice to get back where he is now.
There are 20 players that could break much better if there was a reason and then they could work and train to do it to the best of their abilities. Shane has this incentive because he's the only successful professional in the United States right now. There's just not enough pro tournaments like there were in the 90s to produce the best of the Pros games....not at all.
When I say "professional" I am clearly stating that he's the only one that can make a living playing pool (Mike D. was #2 last year and made less than 40k in prize money) and to do this he MUST travel outside the United States and play in every "special event" offered ie: Mosconi Cup, Streaming Video Matches, Challenge of Champions, etc.
What did first place pay in the DDC events? I know Max Eberle won the straight pool event and barely made more than his expense money back. This isn't what I would call a "Pro Event" when 90% of the field loses money. Just my opinion, and I'm just a "messenger", the Game is the one that's the most upset at the current "state of the pool union".
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This makes sense. Johnny wants a game he knows he can't lose.
In a regular 10 ball set, JA might lose the lag and have to fade a 6 pack from MD... but that's the only way Mike can beat him.
Johnny can beat Mike in several different ways; he's just a more complete player.
I hope it's not too disrespectful to say that someone isn't quite as good as one of the legends of the game...yet.
I am guessing this game is too difficult for Mike if he don't want to play it. Hey there is nothing wrong with that Ja has So much more experience than Mike does I imagine that it would be a little one sided and thats why JA wants to play it.You sly dog... I dunno if your lure will work on mike
Wasn't johnny the guy who played that crafty push on shane in their tar match, which shane lunged at and missed, giving johnny the all-clear to run out?
You know Johnny has to give up something playing this way. Everyone knows that you don't bite on the other guy's proposition.
It's also a different game than what's played. Some people play one handed jack up, but it's not the norm.
Tell Johnny, Mike will play 10ball with the option to push after the break. If Johnny wants to push, he can push LMAO.
Seems to me like Mike is saying Johnny can't come up with the dough? I'm guessing JA has plenty, and if not, he has plenty of guys that would jump to put him in the box with Mike D.
best,
Justin