Woods that produce certain types of hit?

slyfox

slyfox

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Hi Everyone,

Just wondering if anyone has input about what types of woods produce a "brighter" or "pingier" hit. Shot with a friends purpleheart sneaky tonight and it seem to have a higher tone, resonance that alot of woods.

I know ebony is typically a damper hit.

Just wondering what woods might produce a "ping" type hit?

Thanks,
Fox.
 
Does the hit (tone) depend also on the measures of the shaft and/or of the butt ?? I'd say: Yes. But I have only little experience in cuemaking. So if it is like this, maybe the experienced cuemakers can regard this issue in their answers.
 
The front wood as well as the construction methods can affect "sound" plus the joint material/diameter, shaft taper and the ferrule/tip being used.

In other words, a lot of factors can affect hit, feel. and "sound" of a cue.
 
Blackwood, granadillo, most hard rosewoods ( Braz being the king I think) , pernambuco, zircote and ironwood among them.
Some epoxies ping more than others.
Some ferrules ping more than other ( LBM and modern micarta ) .
 
JoeyInCali said:
Blackwood, granadillo, most hard rosewoods ( Braz being the king I think) , pernambuco, zircote and ironwood among them.
Some epoxies ping more than others.
Some ferrules ping more than other ( LBM and modern micarta ) .
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What he said, also ebony has a bright tone it just doesn't continue to sing like say Braz. Rosewood, ebony dies out much quicker. Maple would be say between the two, I stand corrected if I am wrong. Dense woods have more of a ping to them, (tone wood) wood used for musical instruments is said to make great playing cues.

Also shaft taper tip and ferrule comes very much into play, along with joint material. A wood to wood 3/8-10 sleeved phenolic joint of course is going to resonate threw the butt of the cue much more than say a 5/16-18 steel jointed cue.

Some people don't like to feel vibration (feedback, sound or Tone) this is why I think some people like steel flat faced or steel piloted joints, or even ivory something softer to dampen the hit. This by no means makes the cue dead you just wont feel the feed back to you hand as much as say my favorite (wood/wood) hit. You also wont hear much of the hit, I personally love the ping it makes when stroking threw the ball, everything else just sounds dead to me. This is all subjective or course.:cool:
 
The wood doesn't produce the 'ping'. The construction does. Any cue can be made to 'ping'. I can make a broom stick 'ping'.
 
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Russell Cues said:
WoW :bash:
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Mature...

Well anyway to help out the threads question of wood and their tones there are differences in woods used in cues and instruments. NOT just the construction of it being made, even though any wood cue can be made to "ping" or "sing"

Hope this answers your question about wood and there tones, this is without getting into construction methods.

POSTED BY Forums own GBCues, in a similar thread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3JhauyBQ8Y
 
HueblerHustler7 said:
Mature...

Well anyway to help out the threads question of wood and their tones there are differences in woods used in cues and instruments. NOT just the construction of it being made, even though any wood cue can be made to "ping" or "sing"

Hope this answers your question about wood and there tones, this is without getting into construction methods.

POSTED BY Forums own GBCues, in a similar thread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3JhauyBQ8Y
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Im not even going to entertain that with an answer. Build cues the way that best suits you.
 
Russell Cues said:
Build cues the way that best suits you.
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hi,

I have to say that is the smartest post I have ever read here on AZ concerning this issue. :clapping:

There is no right or wrong answer.

There are a lot of permutations and cue makers should do it the way to want then buyers have choices.

Rick
 
scdiveteam said:
hi,

I have to say that is the smartest post I have ever read here on AZ concerning this issue. :clapping:

There is no right or wrong answer.

There are a lot of permutations and cue makers should do it the way to want then buyers have choices.

Rick
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Exactly. Choice makes the world go round.
 
scdiveteam said:
There is no right or wrong answer.
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Yes there is. Say you build 5 cues, all flat faced w2w, all the same construction methods, and the only variable is using different woods in the forearm, say maple, PH, rosewood, ebony, etc...

Using the same shaft on each cue, you're telling me they're all going to play and sound exactly the same?

-roger <----- interested in wood
 
Im working on and almost done with a program that will measure the frequency spectrum that travels up and down a cue after impact with the cueball. It utilizes an accelerometer to capture acceleration data and then does an FFT to transform the oscillations into the frequency domain. I'm hoping this new and unique tool will be interesting to cue makers to quantify the "hit" of a cue. The hardware is already utilized in StrokeAnalyzer to measure stroke acceleration. This will be an additional application specifically designed to quantify a cue's hit and feel.

Any one interest in such a gadget?
 
buddha162 said:
Yes there is. Say you build 5 cues, all flat faced w2w, all the same construction methods, and the only variable is using different woods in the forearm, say maple, PH, rosewood, ebony, etc...

Using the same shaft on each cue, you're telling me they're all going to play and sound exactly the same?

-roger <----- interested in wood
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At least someone gets it. But to each is there own, If he's convinced he can do so maybe he will be the next Southwest with a cue build waiting list of 10-11 years. It would be quite popular to be able to make a cue from crap wood and make it play the same as one with perfect aged wood.
 
I'm still amazed whenever I read this forum and at how little I know. The amount of knowledge (as wrong as it is) that perpetuates on here is simply astounding.

It's truly incredible that there are so many experts out there who build cues and are so willing to share their expertise, building skills, advice and overall knowledge as to why the cue universe was created, exists and functions. I didn't know there were so many of them. :speechless: :confused:
 
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