Spot me the last two purples and you got me.
Bonus Ball
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Spot me the last two purples and you got me.
I hate those people too.
I can't speak for Mark but I have been busy:
You know...repackaging the same old shit with the same old people.
I am just telling it how it is, my opinion might be biased as I stated but so are others on the forum is the reality no matter how they might want to paint the picture. We were quiet for a good while, we did not start the threads at all but some of the nonsense and misinformation I felt I needed to correct to the best of my knowledge is all especially as we are approaching go time which is why more things are being released on the site and Facebook page.
I still like cleary even if he hates Bonus Ball and thinks its the worse game ever, I appreciate Justin and TAR regardless of his perspective on it, I even would like to play Mark more one pocket and have some beers with him because I know he is a good guy. I just see too much negativity on here and I do not expect it to change or all of us to be so positive but this is a good opportunity for the guys at the top of the pool playing food chain.
I want to see these guys make a really good living instead of the tough tournament trail which wears on these guys making them hate the game, making moves on people and just plain and simple not living a great lifestyle or the ability to have or support themselves or a family. Imagine a pool player having a steady income instead of gambling for the money whether its in a tournament or not, perhaps they could have a family and love to play the game again. I look forward to the day people are on here bashing Bonus Ball because of the insurance coverage they have or something like that. Some of these guys hate pool and its not hard to understand why they feel the way they do because it is their life and not an easy one either.
As a pool player I hope it does well, lord knows we need something to happen. As a potential customer I am upset. Its like if the Apple people say the new Iphone 10 is going to be available Jan 7 2013, you go to the Apple store to buy it and they say its not ready yet come back in a month. A month goes by and guess what no phone. You will either go elsewhere or wait it out. How many people are gonna wait and wait before they start complaining? You as a consumer of products would be the same way.
In January and February I was Larry's best buddy! Patting him on the back, comforting him, telling him to man up to the billiard world and confess that he was broke because I, as executive vice-president, saw the mess, the unpaid bills and knew his unrealistic dream of a professional billiard league was finished. I honestly felt sorry for this man. He was devastated! The fancy grin, the polished shoes and the flashy sports car were now gone. How could you not feel his pain!?
I was buying dinner for a couple of fantastic pro players that were starving to death waiting for his dream to come true and when they asked me if Chiborak had the million dollar prize money, I had to be honest. The next day I got a phone call from a furious Larry Chiborak for being honest with these players. He screamed that he would lose everything if he did not pull this boon doogle off. He never mentioned the word fired, let go or laid off.
This is now mid-March and I meet with John Gigoloti, a 10% shareholder in our corporation. My first question was, were is Larry hiding? Second question, do you have the money to even consider saving this train wreck. I have to save it was his answer. I brought all my friends into this! WOW! Excuse me, I'm vice-president and a major shareholder and I don't know this? WTF He then explains to me that Larry wrongfully opened up a corporation in the USA behind my back and that he was going to disolve it and open a new corpoation in Canada and make things right with me. I would be given a nice salaried job as amateur Bonus Ball promoter. WAIT A MINUTE! Do I get any shares...well no, Larry and I sold your shares to my buddies and if we give you your shares, we lose control of the company.
I actually pondered this thought. Hmmm this is jail term shit what Im hearing. I then said, listen, I will agree to a fair buy-out of my shares so you can start this fourth corporation to you for 20k and a $1 a year. The value of my shares, based on what you sold them to your buddies is $525,000. When the company gets profitable, you can pay me the rest.
Here is the kicker, you must be in charge of all finances John and you must kick larry into a corporate box and never let him think again. Let him be a PR guy or sell popcorn or sweep the floors, but I want him out! he has proven in four years to not be able to do one thing right.
Here I am today, still doing my job and teaching amateurs how to play the game. It's my job as executive vice-president to continue marketing this company until such time as the president, Larry Chiborak, gives me written notice that I am fired. At that point, a settlement will have to be reached on the back wages owed and a years severance package will be in order, there is no doubt about that.
I completely refuse to have any part of the WPBL anymore unless they show me the financials of any company, A, B or C, that proves that they actually have the funds to finish at least one season. I stand by that because it's not for the money I started this project. It's because I saw a beautiful man by the name of Johnny Archer and many of his friends wanting a future so he could stop spending weeks away from his lovely family and grow a sport for pool for the next generation.
Watching Larry Chiborak piss everything down the river made me decide, enough is enough. I'm not going to be part of this WPBL train wreck. I am a man that tells it like is and if larry Chiborak wants to fire me from this corporation for being honest with the players, so be it. I still own the game of Bonus Ball through another company that is protected from this mess, Flying Elephant inc. and I will continue promoting my game to amateurs all over the world.
For the last two months I have been to Reno, Canada, Las Vegas and Montana...mingling with people and showing them this strategic game. I also am telling the world, I have nothing to do with the WPBL except for holding onto my shares waiting to collect my mother load, as Nathan calls it. Dan Lewis, write me a cheque and you can own 20% of the only company that matters, the World Wide Sport of Billiards. $100k and a $24k a year until Im paid off $525k. It could be a great investment if Larry Chiborak is removed and Nathan and John take over. I'll be checking my emails every hour! barry@playbonusball.com
I was buying dinner for a couple of fantastic pro players that were starving to death waiting for his dream to come true and when they asked me if Chiborak had the million dollar prize money, I had to be honest. The next day I got a phone call from a furious Larry Chiborak for being honest with these players. He screamed that he would lose everything if he did not pull this boon doogle off. He never mentioned the word fired, let go or laid off.
This is now mid-March and I meet with John Gigoloti, a 10% shareholder in our corporation. My first question was, were is Larry hiding? Second question, do you have the money to even consider saving this train wreck. I have to save it was his answer. I brought all my friends into this! WOW! Excuse me, I'm vice-president and a major shareholder and I don't know this? WTF He then explains to me that Larry wrongfully opened up a corporation in the USA behind my back and that he was going to disolve it and open a new corpoation in Canada and make things right with me. I would be given a nice salaried job as amateur Bonus Ball promoter. WAIT A MINUTE! Do I get any shares...well no, Larry and I sold your shares to my buddies and if we give you your shares, we lose control of the company.
I actually pondered this thought. Hmmm this is jail term shit what Im hearing. I then said, listen, I will agree to a fair buy-out of my shares so you can start this fourth corporation to you for 20k and a $1 a year. The value of my shares, based on what you sold them to your buddies is $525,000. When the company gets profitable, you can pay me the rest.
Here is the kicker, you must be in charge of all finances John and you must kick larry into a corporate box and never let him think again. Let him be a PR guy or sell popcorn or sweep the floors, but I want him out! he has proven in four years to not be able to do one thing right.
Here I am today, still doing my job and teaching amateurs how to play the game. It's my job as executive vice-president to continue marketing this company until such time as the president, Larry Chiborak, gives me written notice that I am fired. At that point, a settlement will have to be reached on the back wages owed and a years severance package will be in order, there is no doubt about that.
I completely refuse to have any part of the WPBL anymore unless they show me the financials of any company, A, B or C, that proves that they actually have the funds to finish at least one season. I stand by that because it's not for the money I started this project. It's because I saw a beautiful man by the name of Johnny Archer and many of his friends wanting a future so he could stop spending weeks away from his lovely family and grow a sport for pool for the next generation.
Watching Larry Chiborak piss everything down the river made me decide, enough is enough. I'm not going to be part of this WPBL train wreck. I am a man that tells it like is and if larry Chiborak wants to fire me from this corporation for being honest with the players, so be it. I still own the game of Bonus Ball through another company that is protected from this mess, Flying Elephant inc. and I will continue promoting my game to amateurs all over the world.
For the last two months I have been to Reno, Canada, Las Vegas and Montana...mingling with people and showing them this strategic game. I also am telling the world, I have nothing to do with the WPBL except for holding onto my shares waiting to collect my mother load, as Nathan calls it. Dan Lewis, write me a cheque and you can own 20% of the only company that matters, the World Wide Sport of Billiards. $100k and a $24k a year until Im paid off $525k. It could be a great investment if Larry Chiborak is removed and Nathan and John take over. I'll be checking my emails every hour! barry@playbonusball.com
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I can't speak for Mark but I have been busy:
You know...repackaging the same old shit with the same old people.
They are some good matches and its nice to see fresh match ups, I honestly wish you success in these events but you are literally walking distance to the venue so I am not going for it and Mark is very busy with secret stuff and big plans. You could probably snipe me from your position with relative ease is how close TAR and Bonus Ball Arena are from one another in case people do not know they are literally on the same block.
LOL What a mess.
I hope your right, its clear to me that there is a beef I wasnt aware of when I asked the questions I did. IDK WTF is going on, I just hope for the players sake it goes and all those who have put effort into it. Thinking about it, since I sai what I said, I cant see Larry violating and SEC laws or raising money in any illegal fashion. I dont know what the beef is and dont want to know, just hope it all works out.
I find this highly amusing, BB comes on here asking for opinions and input and then does not like the answers lol
Go for it or don't. Other than the interesting situation of a shit load of resources being expended in weird ways I don't really spend much time sweating what bonus ball does or doesn't do. You guys want to put some info out publicly I'll listen. No interest in taking the tour.
Only thing I want to know is when it starts, whats the schedule and is enough money there to run the whole thing. None of that will be answered by looking at cool gear and pretty lights.
thats a great point, Boxing moved over to PPV about 20-25? years ago-it saved boxing, because the ratings got so bad the 3 "Networks" back then dropped it. They had nowhere to go, there was Showtime and HBO but that didnt pay much back then, so PPV was invented as a default way to monazite a event.
Eric<-----Owned a boxing radio show for 8 years FYI :smile:
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I believe we appreciate constructive criticism but anyone with a brain can see there are some who do not offer that at all, others have watched it and gave some input and criticism that is appreciated whether they liked the game or not.
I used to be into boxing big time, but my passion faded. I sometimes feel that way about pool.
IPT put in big bucks to promote pool on TV, and Kevin got it on that Versus cable channel, if memory serves me right. He had a producer, many high-quality cameras and camera men/women at events, and did produce high-quality videos, which are still available on the IPT website.
The IPT didn't take off on TV, even on the cable channel. There was a green room for the players and a first-class venue. In this shot, you can see both Mouths, the pool player and the poker player, Kevin Trudeau, the producer, and the pretty MC lady, whose name escapes me. The IPT staff even got this on Vegas local TV, trying to promote it.
Big bucks was put into this venue, and it still sank like the Titanic a few months later. In this regard, I am now of the belief that money ain't what is needed to get pool out of the mud. I'm not sure what it is, but it ain't BB or the IPT.
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Lenny Lenny Lenny "anyone with half a brain" would also know that coming onto this site and asking for input should expect that they may just get a few detractors, It's be a bit like walking into a biker bar looking for directions wearing a pink tutu.
I think it's clear there is more money (or not) than sense behind this.
I dont think anybody is actually against bonus ball.We all would like to see it succeed because we have friends that play the game and money is pretty much non existent in pool outside of gambling, small tournaments and the things TAR does to support the players.Its a show and tell world though.Im sure all of these ppl will support their favorite team if it finally goes off.I will personally bring cleary to a game in vegas.Its just with the current events with bonus ball its hard to believe what u hear.With no facts its impossible to spend time and effort in life supporting or looking forward to something.If it makes it big they will support it.If it fails they will say I told u so.So until some of the main questions and concerns are answered and supported with facts it will just be another vision someone has in their basement.Best of luck to all involved cause I would like to see it happen.Good day.
I used to be into boxing big time, but my passion faded. I sometimes feel that way about pool.
IPT put in big bucks to promote pool on TV, and Kevin got it on that Versus cable channel, if memory serves me right. He had a producer, many high-quality cameras and camera men/women at events, and did produce high-quality videos, which are still available on the IPT website.
The IPT didn't take off on TV, even on the cable channel. There was a green room for the players and a first-class venue. In this shot, you can see both Mouths, the pool player and the poker player, Kevin Trudeau, the producer, and the pretty MC lady, whose name escapes me. The IPT staff even got this on Vegas local TV, trying to promote it.
Big bucks was put into this venue, and it still sank like the Titanic a few months later. In this regard, I am now of the belief that money ain't what is needed to get pool out of the mud. I'm not sure what it is, but it ain't BB or the IPT.
Boxing was fun back in the day then MMA came along(its as legit as WWF/WWE HulK Hogan stuff) not to say boxing is always on the square either, but it was more fun I thought anyway,
Great pic of IPT I didnt see that one before, KT proved it wasnt $$$ that would fix pool, he had the juice to get it on cable and still didnt work. The streams cant catch 2000 viewers(thats 40 in each state) with the best players in the world.
The root of the problem with pool aint pool in and of it self. the problem is there just aint that many people interested in it, and it sucks on TV. Darts id HUGE now on TV, I dont even play darts but its fun to watch. Pool is only fun to watch it you play pool or know the players. $$ cant fix that problem, its a social issue, people are online, Facebook, Poker(Go Keith!!!), Netflix, video games. Pool just dont have the audience to support it self.
Snooker is riding the momentum Barry Hearn gave it 28 years ago, now he has it in China and its picking up again. That audience is in place and took years to develop. Pool cant do that, unless someone wants to post up $5M year for 5 years then there is a 50% chance it catches on.
Again i hope i'm wrong and BB works out. I
I dont know what to make of this Barry thing, i'm just gonna side step that mess,
best
eric:smile: