why do they say new meucci cues arent good?

mine is coming with an uncovered wrap. why wrap it if its getting covered up something that is soft and gives a little bit should not be covered up. I think that's where a lot of the problems are coming from
 
I used to play with Meucci's for quite a few years 20+ years ago. I've been playing with them up until about 8 months ago back and forth with a Schon I have. For ha ha's I bought a few of those ebay fake southwest cues. Wait, don't laugh ....

I like the Meucci's better than the Schon, and I like the knock off better than both. Go figure.

Now I play with those Chinese knock off cues. I like em much better. No lie. I had Paul Drexler put new wrap on them, and he told me they are made of all real woods like birdseye, curly maple, and snakewood, that would cost him more than the price of the entire cue.

I used to really like that whippy feel the Meucci's had, so all I did to achieve it on these cues is to extend the taper at 12.75" for 22 or so inches. This ain't rocket science IMO.

My point there was, if ya like the whip, it's pretty easy to duplicate on any cue if you are having doubts about the new Meuccis. I even bought one of those Carl's Cues shafts once upon a time for 25 bucks. You can make any of them feel whippy. Put a good tip on afterwards and you're good to go.

I don't know about all this low deflection shaft stuff ... what does that mean? You miss by less? :scratchhead: They can keep the $250 dollar shafts.

Meucci's also had a certain "harmonics" to the butt. Hard to explain, but I liked that as well. I don't know if the new ones have that feel. Believe it or not, these knock off cues of the Southwest style feel the same way.

How do ya go wrong for 85 bucks with 2 shafts and joint protectors. Free shipping also.

They feel very much like the Meucci cues of old once the shaft is tapered farther back, and you can do that yourself for free.

If you are hesitant to spend 300 bucks on a Meucci, because of quality concerns, check out some of the cheapo's on ebay. You might be surprised.

I don't know if there are any currently for sale but MTBilliards was the seller, also went by the name MR Cues. Supposed to be some guy named Mark Richards who makes them. I don't who or if he is.

FYI The ones on ebay by DR. Cheng are junk IMO. I try em all. :)
 
I was hoping someone might mention more about the company as part of this discussion.. I had a good quality Meucci back before the black dot shafts came out. About the time the black dots came out I heard the company got bought out and the quality went down significantly. In fact when I bought my black dot my local dealer had a shipment where almost all of them were warped so we had a hard time finding a good one in the batch. Later I heard Bob bought the company back but it seems more likely that the deal never fully went through or something?? Anyone know the real story because Bob's image is definitely prominent on the web site just as it used to be.

I'm still on an old mailing list and recently got a note about the BMC line - Bob Meucci Custom cues. Anyone have experience with one of these?

I definitely hate to hear such bad stories... I've met Bob and his family and they are a highly intelligent / very inventive group of people.
 
Straightpool_99 said:
When I started playing pool, lots of people I knew had Meucci cues, especially the better players. Most of these cues held up quite well, but got exchanged for predators after a while.

I bought a black Meucci demo cue, with covered wrap. The cue was not all that great. The deflection (with a black dot shaft) was what I would describe as "medium", more than the Predator 314. The balance was great but it had a dead, hollow feeling, except on power shots. On the really hard shots the cue would vibrate like nothing I have ever seen, it was litterally shaking in my hand. And then the issues began...The joint popped through the finish, the finish cracked over the wrap etc. I didn't pay a whole lot for it, so I didn't get too upset. I cut the wrap off and installed a leather wrap myself. I sold the black dot shaft and bought a predator Z shaft, but the butt still felt dead and I eventually put it in the back of the closet, where it has remained.

If you can find a meucci that has been used for a couple of years, but is still in decent condition, it is probably ok to buy, some of them do play well. I probably need not tell you this, but you should always run your fingers over any rings, the joint and especially covered wraps. If you feel the finish bulging, be careful. That means the finish is lifting, and will eventually crack.
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I also bought a Power Piston Demo cue, in 2009 (http://www.budgetcues.com/meucci_demo_cue.htm), but ordered mine with the Irish linen wrap uncoated.
I bought it because I already had a Z2 shaft I liked with a 5/16x18 joint and Meucci was the best name cue I could find at the time using that joint. I was also interested in the Power Piston technology.
Even then I did find many complaints about their quality control, but I took a chance. I could probably count on both hands the number of shots I've ever taken with the Black Dot shaft, so I can't speak for it.
What I can say is I love the way the Power Piston butt plays with the Z2 shaft. And, mine looks as good today as the day I got it in the mail. No issues whatsoever.
With that said, I think the finish issues tend to come from poor quality inlays and finish... particularly Irish linen that's been finished over.
Based on what I've read I wouldn't recommend any new Meucci with inlays or a covered wrap. I imagine yours has inlays at that price, hopefully you'll get lucky.
 
ScottK said:
I also bought a Power Piston Demo cue, in 2009 (http://www.budgetcues.com/meucci_demo_cue.htm), but ordered mine with the Irish linen wrap uncoated.
I bought it because I already had a Z2 shaft I liked with a 5/16x18 joint and Meucci was the best name cue I could find at the time using that joint. I was also interested in the Power Piston technology.
Even then I did find many complaints about their quality control, but I took a chance. I could probably count on both hands the number of shots I've ever taken with the Black Dot shaft, so I can't speak for it.
What I can say is I love the way the Power Piston butt plays with the Z2 shaft. And, mine looks as good today as the day I got it in the mail. No issues whatsoever.
With that said, I think the finish issues tend to come from poor quality inlays and finish... particularly Irish linen that's been finished over.
Based on what I've read I wouldn't recommend any new Meucci with inlays or a covered wrap. I imagine yours has inlays at that price, hopefully you'll get lucky.
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with it having uncovered wrap I think the meucci is the right choice. the covered over wrap seems to sound like the problem. if you cover over a wrap that has the potential to move or have some give what will happen? it will crack under the covering this is something I think is something they should change. unless its not real Irish linen. hum we will see I like an uncovered wrap.
 
I use my Meucci almost all the time. My Schon, not so much.
And it is a newer Meucci with a black dot as well.
If I was going to get rid of one, it would be the Schon.
To each his own, I guess? :wink:
 
The op has, a number of times, indicated that the meucci he ordered has an exposed wrap so, therefore, it will likely not have some of the problems many here have shared.

I'm beginning to think that Spider was right that the op is *glossing over* (pun intended) the myriad problems that the members have pointed out both with regard to finish and otherwise, such as warpage, cracking, inlays and rings popping, inconsistent shafts/hit, poor service, etc., etc., etc . . .

What's being highlighted here, unfortunately, is merely the tip of a rather ugly iceburg and you can read much more on Meucci's fall from grace if you wish by using az's search button feature.

With all of this said, I'm sure there are some exceptions to the rule and maybe, just maybe, your meucci will be terrific.

But please accept that you have come looking for opinions on az, a community with a lot of knowledge and experience, and while you may not like the answers, answers have been provided to you.

If after reading all of those responses, you still wish to believe that the cue you ordered is going to be a great one, then I can only recap it for you once again:

Meucci Originals were great cues, the newer Meuccis bearing the stylish cursive logos, generally, are not.

The odds that the meucci you just ordered will be a great cue are very low, exposed wrap or not.

If you have a problem and find yourself in need of customer service, good luck with that.

Sorry if this post comes across a little brusk.

best,
brian kc
 
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If you have a problem with your stick, get a hold of Deron at Meucci. He is in repairs and does a nice job. Enjoy your cue.
 
good luck

I started playing on a Meucci many years ago. loved that cue, til it literally crumbled apart in my hands . I sent it in to them to be repaired a few years ago, just to have cause it was my first cue, and they sent me an email saying it wasn't worth repairing. Never even sent me back my cue... Good luck with the one you are receiving, I haven't seen ONE come out of their factory that wasn't jacked up in some way or another..
 
Tim said:
If you have a problem with your stick, get a hold of Deron at Meucci. He is in repairs and does a nice job. Enjoy your cue.
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"Deron" or Darrin or "Derwin as Esmarelda would say, is part of the problem at Meucci.

Getting good service from them is a crap shoot, at best.

best,
brian kc
 
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Kickin' Chicken said:
The op has, a number of times, indicated that the meucci he ordered has an exposed wrap so, therefore, it will likely not have some of the problems many here have shared.

I'm beginning to think that Spider is right that the op is *glossing over* (pun intended) the myriad problems that the members have pointed out both with regard to finish and otherwise such as warpage, cracking, inlays and rings popping, inconsistent shafts/hit, poor service, etc., etc., etc . . .

What's being highlighted here, unfortunately, is merely the tip of a rather ugly iceburg and you can read much more on Meucci's fall from grace by using az's search button feature.

With all of this said, I'm sure there are some exceptions to the rule and maybe, just maybe, your meucci will be terrific.

But pease accept that you have come looking for opinions on az, a community with a lot of knowledge and experience, and while you may not like the answers, answers have been provided to you.

If after reading all of those responses, you still wish to believe that the cue you ordered is going to be a great one, then I can only recap it for you this way:

Meucci Originals were great cues, the newer Meuccis bearing the stylish cursive logos, generally, are not.

The odds that the meucci you just ordered will be a great cue are very low, exposed wrap or not.

If you have a problem and find yourself in need of customer service, good luck with that.

Sorry if this post comes across a little brusk.

best,
brian kc
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I'm fine with the answers that most of you'll provided there is a lot of good info here. you are probably one of the only ones that looked at what I posted about the exposed wrap. hopefully I'll have one heck of a cue but if not I expect for them to fix it and if need be I'll drive to the factory its like a 3 hour drive maybe. one way or another I will get any imperfections fixed as soon as I see one meucci will be called or contacted
 
poolguy4u said:
Which Meucci Model did you order? If you want to know the truth about Meucci cues, then you need to ask someone that knows Meucci cues.

And that is me.:smile:
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I went with the hof-2 I liked the white wrap and inlays. can't wait to get it in my hands and see bow she plays
 
armoworrior said:
I went with the hof-2 I liked the white wrap and inlays. can't wait to get it in my hands and see bow she plays
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Hopefully it will be great. Hopefully everything will be straight. I just got a Meucci back today and I had to wait 2 1/2 years for it to be repaired.

So if there is something wrong, good luck with that.

I have never liked the wrap job done by Meucci. Of course if you order one with a leather wrap, the job would be done by Scott Erwin.

Hopefully they've broken all the sharp edges at the joint, blew out the sawdust and chips out of the shaft insert, and hopefully you have a good rubber bumper where they didn't have to cue it down to make it fit.

The shaft inserts aren't made of good brass anymore. Kind of like cheap brass mixed with tin.

Hopefully you'll have a good threaded stud and not one that is chewed up and undersize.

With a lot of luck, you will have a perfect cue.

I just had to repair a black dot shaft. The ferrule was loose and the shaft made a clicking sound when you shoot with it. Well...I couldn't believe what was under that ferrule. The wooden tenon was like cone shape and wasn't even long enough for the capped ferrule.

I love my Meucci Cues, but sometimes you got to repair some of the problems.
I will not shoot with anything else, but I'll never use a black dot shaft.
 
Tim said:
I didn't say he was fast, all the work he has done for me has been great.
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as poolguy4u said above, he just received back a repair job from meucci that took them 2 1/2 years.

during a nightmarish repair saga I had with meucci a few years ago on behalf of a friend whose cue literally fell apart while shooting (seriously!), I had the displeasure of being strung, strung and strung along some more by both darrin and they young lady who answered the phone. That was actually around 2007 - my friend's cue was never fixed or replaced.

I am pretty sure that at that time, darrin *was* the repair staff all by himself. I have no idea if they still only run with one repair man but if you are gonna put out crap quality cues, which they sure do, then they should be appropriately staffed to handle the problems that are inevitable.

what's the point of doing nice repair work if it takes years or forever or never to complete?

best,
brian kc <---- I love my meucci original that was my player for about 15 years and will never sell it.
 
if there is a problem like I said I'll drive up there I'll even take leave and stay somewhere close to make sure its done. its not far for me to drive
 
DoubleD said:
A 'problem' like that is going to take several days to fix (if they do it wrong). If you are going to drive up there and stay, you'll have more into the hotel costs than the cue.

Look, we get it. You are excited about your new cue. You asked the question. You got knowledgeable answers. You have decided yours is a special case, for some reason.

Stop arguing with people about it. Stop telling us you and your cue are different. I hope they are, but we are at sixty replies on a subject that most of us know the answer to.

dld
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thats a good answer, free coffee for you!!!!:smile::smile:
 
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