Okay, You’re Martin Scorsese. And …

sunnyone

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You’ve committed to craft the third significant American film about pool.

Your challenge -- and isn’t it a fun one? -- is to make all of the creative and otherwise critical decisions necessary to create a blockbuster hit.

So … here’s your opportunity to let the world know what you’re going to do and how you’re going to do it.

The following amateurish suggestions are nothing more than conversation starters -- faint hints, mere whispers to suggest possible courses of action for your consideration.

Of course -- as you would expect and insist -- everything is, ultimately, up to you.

To secure the kind of financing you want -- tons! -- you’re first going to nail down a couple of obvious elements -- scripting and casting.

Some bygone Russian writer once said there are only two stories: someone leaves on a journey or a stranger comes into town. Both are great metaphors for pool players, no?

However, as you well know, every great libretto is, essentially, a love story. So your storyline might want to start with, include, and end with, amore. Up to you.

Casting? Also your call.

You might want to consider a couple of mischievous misfits such as Christopher Walken and Joe Pesci. Each makes many of us feel a bit nervous as he looms into certain scenes. Each is a bit edgy in his own inimitable way. You don’t really want just another pretty boy as your principal actor, do you?

You might also consider spotlighting a quietly sinister villain. Low key, with barely suppressed creepiness occasionally seeping into a scene. Hannibal Lector. Bert Gordon.

The girls?

You know so very well how crucial they will be to the critical and commercial success of your film. Yet, you might want to resist the impulse to decide on a female protagonist, tempting as that may be … pool hall verisimilitude ... that’s the phrase you’re thinking of!

Cameos. Tons of them! And all from the world of pool. Your insider’s nod to the pool cognoscenti.

Fer instance?

Keith, in a reprise.

Niels and Jasmin, obvious reasons. You might want to also consider tossing Stevie into that particular mix of Q-Factor faces. You’ll probably want to fit him with a clip-in extension to bring back his ponytail.

You might decide, for obvious reasons, that you want Efren. While you’re on that particular subject … Francisco. And Dennis. And Jose.

Hmm … is a Filipino subplot emerging?

And authentic color … A Freezer glower. Alex laughing with delight. Karen frowning before she hammers in a 10 ball. Who else? The Black Widow? Earl, festooned with paraphernalia? And barely suppressed rage?

And background chatter … you consider the astonishing talent pool of a few of our elite streaming commentators. You might want to work one or two of them into your film.

Music. You contemplate the atmospherics. Mumblecore a la Leon Redbone?

Or a moody instrumental ... Tom Waits ... perhaps ‘Closing Time?‘

More upbeat? Professor Longhair … his classic, ‘Tipitina?’

Stomping bluegrass for the heartbeat scenes?

Location. Vegas is obvious. And relatively easy. Contemporary and competitive reality suggests including Europe. And Asia. Gorgeous geo-porn.

Commoner appeal? The sheer number of active players in the APA intrigues you from potential ticket-buyer and word-of-mouth perspectives. Could there be a Ken Burns-type of background theme -- a populist meme interwoven into your main story?

Backstory. You’re interested in pool’s gritty history, in its bittersweet heritage, and, most especially, in our poignant living legends.

Hmm … black & white flashbacks? You know that there is some terrific historical footage available. Along with haunting photos.

And the stories … oh my, the stories. You think of the players still around, those yesteryear icons with their twilight interviews, their legacy memories.

My dad suggested, and you’re probably already thinking of, Warren Beatty’s ‘witnesses’ in his award winning ‘Reds.’

Wikipedia: "The most evocative aspect of the presentation is a documentary enhancement – interviews with a number of venerable 'witnesses,' whose recollections of the period help to set the scene, bridge transitions and preserve a touching human perspective," wrote The Washington Post.[6] "More than anything else in Reds, these interviews give the film its poignant point of view and separate it from all other romantic adventure films ever made," wrote New York Times film critic Vincent Canby.[7]

Actual pool content. ‘Hustler’ and ‘Color’ had -- understandably, and appropriately, -- a relatively minor percentage of actual pool table action. You’ll probably decide on a similar ratio for your upcoming film. The main matchups, the cameos, the backstory footage … all of those combined won’t be enough to bore, nor confuse, your general audience.

In the end, more than anything else, you want to make a terrific film.

Auteurism is my life,

Sunny

S. Naturally it would be tempting for you to consider alternative directors. Quentin. The Coen brothers. Each would create an entirely different, and entirely wonderful, kind of film. But, for your immediate consideration, I hope you’ll focus on my dear friend, Marty.

Whom, someday, I hope to meet.

> It’s challenging -- is it not? -- to pen an almost entire post in the second person? Yes, it is arduous. No, it is not insurmountable. Not for someone who is, shall we say, not overburdened with quietude.
 
Don't forget the slow motion.

-Blake <--- available for a nominal fee.

P.S. The Color of Money was (and still is) one of the driving influences in my slow motion pool video journey.

Great post, SunnyOne! I already want to see this movie.
 
(cue train running down the tracks)

"You know, if we're gonna be shootin' together, we ought to be drinking together."

It was a friendship...

(cue scenes of incidental closeness)

that turned into a secret.

"I can't just turn this off!"

There are places you can never return.

"May I kiss the bride?"

There are some lies, you have to tell.

"We was just fishin' buddies."

There are truths we can't deny.

"You don't go to a pool hall to fish!"

From the Academy-Award winning director TX Poolnut...

"I wish I knew how to quit you!"

Earl Ledger

Jeremy Gyllenhaal

Michelle Williams



Bonus Ball Mountain
 
It's not a Martin Scorcese kind of movie, but I just finished watching The Big Lebowski and pool would fit well in a farce like that.

The topper would be to cast Johnny Depp in the leading role.
 
Story opens on Vince Lauria (tom cruise) working in a big box store as a manager perhaps. It's years later and he's given up the hustle, the game all of it for a regular 9-5.
Him and Carmen have a daughter that has no idea about her dads past pool hustling ways but gets into pool, around this time her mom (not sure on the details just spit balling here) ships her off to live with her dad aka Vince. At this point she gets into pool playing league much to Vince's dismay "bar box pool is for bangers" but gets the fire back for competition while helping teach his daughter how to play...... and thats all I got so far
 
Not a Scorcese Film

Sunny, I am going to drop Scorcese from my future film. In order to move the story in what I consider my artistic direction, I want a new, young indie type director. The crux of the movie isn't about pool. It is about Love, Loss, and Fulfillment. Antagonist and Protagonist. Mystery and Revelation.

If I can get the money together, I will get my treatment made before too long.

Two years ago I had a small role in the indie horror film, East Stackton. Working on a tight budget with aspiring professionals teaches you a lot about the craft of filmmaking.

Yeah, a few cameo appearances by young pool pros is not out of the question, but I wouldn't have anybody over age 40 in those cameos. Target Market is the 20 somethings.

We need another movie that uses pool as a story vehicle, but we don't need another COM.

Thanks for posting your thoughts. I enjoy your postings, and they show you have an eclectic side.

Carl
 
It's not a Martin Scorcese kind of movie, but I just finished watching The Big Lebowski and pool would fit well in a farce like that.

The topper would be to cast Johnny Depp in the leading role.

The Big Lebowski was great, lol.
Maybe we can have them cast Deniro as the old washed up hustler making a comeback at One Pocket, lol.
Scorsese would be better of making "The winter of Frankie Machine" like they were supposed to, awesome book.
 
Sunny, are you familiar with the Guy Ritchie movies Snatch, Rock-n-Rolla and Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels?

I would make a pool movie along those lines, where there are four or five separate stories that weave into one thread. Maybe something like a casino heist taking place during Tunica or DCC, with some money players involved in it.
 
Sunny, are you familiar with the Guy Ritchie movies Snatch, Rock-n-Rolla and Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels?

I would make a pool movie along those lines, where there are four or five separate stories that weave into one thread. Maybe something like a casino heist taking place during Tunica or DCC, with some money players involved in it.

BINGO! Or a gambling fix gone wrong...you'd need Guy Ritchie to pull it off, though...Tarentino could, but it'd be very different, and maybe better.

or

an autistic savant pool player being taken advantage of and then rescued, oblivious to all the stuff going on around him...or is he? Kind of a non-musical Tommy with pool instead of pinball...him silently teaching everyone else life lessons.

or

a homage to Field of Dreams, with some guy inexplicably plunking his family's life savings into a dried up pool room in the middle of a small Iowa town...then mysterious characters turn up to play in some sort of cosmic pool tournament to settle old scores and redeem a fallen colleague...only the owner and a couple of others know that they're all ghosts, who they are and what's really at stake...
 
...Some bygone Russian writer once said there are only two stories: someone leaves on a journey or a stranger comes into town. ...

Well...I can save you 50% of your time, coz there is really only one story: likeable but flawed character faces seemingly insurmountable odds and triumphs.
 
Or loses, but gets the girl and discovers something important about himself in the process~

I think their safest bet is to just do Happy Gilmore on the pool table.
The guy can't play a lick but WTF IS THAT BREAK. He makes 6+ balls on every break
and at some point destroys light fixtures, sends the CB through windows, and knocks out teeth.
After missing he goes on a tirade. The ghost of mosconi helps him overcome his inability
to make short straight shots, and later he's banking in balls 5 rails.
He eventually gets Jennifer Baretta and enough money to pay for Grandpa's surgery.

Starring:
Adam Sandler as "Crusher Callahan"
Jennifer Baretta as "Daisy Duke"
Willie Mosconi's ghost as himself
 
After I read Cornbread Red's biography, all I could think of was how his and The Rack's history would be a GREAT movie. And it should be pretty easy since they have the book as a starting point.
 
Keith McCready story.

Obviously, you would need many "Keiths" to act as his age changes.

Keith would be an advisor and make a couple "cameos".

It is beyond a doubt the best potential story out there.

JAM and Keith have been working on a book for years, and one of the things that would have to be done first is to get this out in its entirety.

Beyond this, the list is pretty short.

Ken
 
I've always thought of using the theme of wasted talent, and a character with huge potential burning out, something tragic like that. Make the story about the player who should have been, and was at one point phenomenal... Possibly have the game as allegory or social commentary.

Too many pool movies are about "the golden days" and not enough are about the pain and suffering of pool/drugs/gambling as an addiction. This game can be glorious and uplifting and inspiring, because it can also be devastating.

I'm thinking more along the lines of "Crazy Heart" or "The Wrestler". This is the style of film for this genre.
 
After I read Cornbread Red's biography, all I could think of was how his and The Rack's history would be a GREAT movie. And it should be pretty easy since they have the book as a starting point.

I agree. I would love to see a movie based on the happenings at the Rack and Cornbread be a major roll of course. Could you imagine? Having characters like pretty boy, cornbread, bucktooth etc. I wonder if the movie could live up to the real thing.
 
(cue train running down the tracks)

"You know, if we're gonna be shootin' together, we ought to be drinking together."

It was a friendship...

(cue scenes of incidental closeness)

that turned into a secret.

"I can't just turn this off!"

There are places you can never return.

"May I kiss the bride?"

There are some lies, you have to tell.

"We was just fishin' buddies."

There are truths we can't deny.

"You don't go to a pool hall to fish!"

From the Academy-Award winning director TX Poolnut...

"I wish I knew how to quit you!"

Earl Ledger

Jeremy Gyllenhaal

Michelle Williams



Bonus Ball Mountain

I just LOL'd so hard I got it on my computer!
 
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