Yes, that actually is. I'll relay the word.
Maybe you could also consider picking up the phone and calling a few players to tell them this yourself? Maybe smooth over the ones whom you threatened to ban.
Bonus Ball Players Can get Staked at The Southern Classic
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Yes, that actually is. I'll relay the word.
Maybe you could also consider picking up the phone and calling a few players to tell them this yourself? Maybe smooth over the ones whom you threatened to ban.
You mean like Greg has been doing for many of these same guys for years at Derby City!
I do believe the promoters have tried but what they are doing is not supporting the pro players financially and its obvious. I do hope all events and Bonus Ball can work together in the future to give the players a living. Lets work together and make it happen, it is not out of reach. I believe all egos have to be put aside and solutions created in this for the benefit of the pro players and the talent we have enjoyed.
Show a little respect to Jay, Nathan. He's been in the pool world since before you were born. You're being a smart aleck with your comments to him.
Once again, putting words in my mouth. Not appreciated. What I did say to one player is that he may not be invited to future Bigfoot Classics. I have stated previously on here that we need players for this one special event that we can rely upon to be there if we advertise them as being in the field. Withdrawing at the last minute does not work well in this case.
This has absolutely zero to do with their future participation at DCC, the Southern Classic or CSI events. That is a decision that Greg and Mark will have to make for themselves. If in the future you are unclear about anything I've said feel free to call me and I will tell you exactly what I meant. You have chosen to relay second hand information and distort it for whatever reason. If I quote you on something Nathan, I promise you I will quote you accurately or not at all.
The likelihood of something like that happening are slim because so many cannot afford to play in every event and also not everyone who plays can cash in some events. I have thought of that myself but is it a possibility, sure it is if someone had a true invitational with huge money paid out but when is the last time that has happened?
They lose points, don't get paid, could be forfeited and/or disqualified, et cetera.
Dance, Bonus Ball Monkeys, dance to an empty stage. It's a joke, really.
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Nathan, you need to stop wasting any time and energy responding to the statements from fools. You are doing what you like and promoting pool with your efforts. The naysayers will never get it, they only take joy in other people's failures anyway. Don't give them the pleasure.
As far as the offer. It's not going to get anybody to pay the travel expenses, hotel ect and then split the prize money 50/50. I understand the jesture though.
So we have a new player that will be taking top players away from established events. Trying to buy their entries (and then win back your own prize money??) is not the way to counter this change.
Yes Tunica is in it's infancy, and it will have 20-30 less pros there. That may shrink the number of entries by what...10%. I would believe the abscence of some top players will open the door for at least that many more amateurs to play and place in this event.
I really think what pool needs is a place for top amateurs to compete and win in tournaments. There needs to be something between top pro pool and APA. This is your market and it's players at this level that are not being generated today. These are the people who will be attending your events when "pro" players can't afford to get out to events. In any event only the top 4 or so guys make anything after expenses, so unless you are one of the best 3 in the room, expecting to make a living on tournament payouts is fantasy. The advanced amateurs are the players that will be buying new pool tables, cues ect..these players who play because they love the game and work regular jobs or have retirements with steady incomes.
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I'm not sure how long you've been around, but Johnny Archer receives perks, freebies, and favoritism, at least events I have personally been to. He doesn't have to show up until a designated time, while all others have to be at the venue 8 a.m. in the morning, as an example.
Johnny Archer is the Bonus Ball players representative. I don't know what his arrangements are as far as how much he is paid compared to the plebeian Bonus Ball minions.
It's amazing, though, how Bonus Ball arranges the schedule so Johnny's Bonus Ball team isn't affected. Amazing how that works, huh?
Johnny Archer is the Jesus Christ of pool!
He's directing traffic at the Bonus Ball enterprise, instructing those Bonus Ball minions to stay put in Vegas, and they follow his direction like trained little pigs.
I'm right. Seen it too many years when it comes to Johnny Archer.
If I recall correctly, Nathan was responding to me in that post...
As to who the fool is, you do not need to be a graduate of The Wharton School of Business to know that the "Not My Job" syndrome is a classic failure point for many organizations and has been studied going back to ancient Greece.
Lou Figueroa
Jam, here's an example of how you're making uninformed assumptions.
Johnny's team has the worst schedule out of all the teams. We tried to group each team's matches together, so that teams can play several times in one week, then have a week off. That way they have less travel expenses.
Johnny's team got the short end of the stick, and have to travel the most. They also have the most conflicts with other events.
You're free to think and say what you like, but it's become quite clear that you're passing judgement based on emotion, rather than facts.
I have always admired Johnny Archer. He is a good family man and has a strong faith. I actually think he's a decent law-abiding Christian man, but when it comes to pool, I don't know what to think anymore. I used to think he wanted what's best for American pool players, but after he signed on with Charlie Williams, I must admit I was taken aback.
That said, Johnny is the players representative for Bonus Ball. If he tells, say, Brandon Shuff to stay in Vegas and play Bonus Ball, then I'm sure Brandon will call Greg Sullivan and cancel his attendance at the Southern Classic. As the players representative, I would imagine he gives advice to the Bonus Ball members. I am disappointed that Johnny was not loyal to Greg Sullivan in this regard. He could have advised Bonus Ball folks that this season, maybe they should rework their schedule until next year, based on the false starts Bonus Ball incurred.
Thank you, and you're absolutely right. I actually do my best to avoid reading the BB related threads, but occasionally get sucked in. I'll use your post to motivate me to escape this one, before I get angry and make a bigger ass of myself than I usually do.
Thanks for the support. I truly appreciate it.
Like I said it is up to the players and no captain or what Johnny Archer has the say.I have always admired Johnny Archer. He is a good family man and has a strong faith. I actually think he's a decent law-abiding Christian man, but when it comes to pool, I don't know what to think anymore. I used to think he wanted what's best for American pool players, but after he signed on with Charlie Williams, I must admit I was taken aback.
That said, Johnny is the players representative for Bonus Ball. If he tells, say, Brandon Shuff to stay in Vegas and play Bonus Ball, then I'm sure Brandon will call Greg Sullivan and cancel his attendance at the Southern Classic. As the players representative, I would imagine he gives advice to the Bonus Ball members. I am disappointed that Johnny was not loyal to Greg Sullivan in this regard. He could have advised Bonus Ball folks that this season, maybe they should rework their schedule until next year, based on the false starts Bonus Ball incurred.