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[cuesblues]

I understand where Roy is coming from.
People call and come up to me all the time with questions about cues.
My typical response is to get the **** out of my face before I shoot you in the head, then
I drag them around the room by the nostrils just to make sure they are paying attention.
That's how you deal with people.

 

[Black-Balled]

Twenty-five dollars is a hole lot of money for an appraisal. Do you think I have a whole in my head?

I disagree and probably would require the item be in my hands, if it was a service I offerred.

I also know the proper use of 'w/hole'...and it isn't in an email to a customer, paid or not.

 

[Spimp13]

I understand where Roy is coming from.
People call and come up to me all the time with questions about cues.
My typical response is to get the **** out of my face before I shoot you in the head, then
I drag them around the room by the nostrils just to make sure they are paying attention.
That's how you deal with people.

:grin: .....................

 

[TheNewSharkster]

I understand where Roy is coming from.
People call and come up to me all the time with questions about cues.
My typical response is to get the **** out of my face before I shoot you in the head, then
I drag them around the room by the nostrils just to make sure they are paying attention.
That's how you deal with people.

So you want to physically hurt people when they ask a question about a pool cue? Somebody has some serious mental issues. You are on my list of people I will never deal with.

 

[Spimp13]

So you want to physically hurt people when they ask a question about a pool cue? Somebody has some serious mental issues. You are on my list of people I will never deal with.

I'm not 100% on this...but I am pretty sure he was being facetious.

 

[one stroke]

Roy is Roy. You were fishing for a value while trying to soft-sell him the cue. He responded professionally, promptly and courteously UNTIL you blew him off with your pronouncement that the cue won't leave your possession. THEN he blew his stack at the fact you wasted his time.

Lesson, don't waste people's time and they won't get mad at you.

Now, of course Roy shouldn't let you know that he is pissed. He should not give anyone ammunition to come on forums and play the "victim" card. I have told him this a hundred times but Roy is Roy.

Roy has also been in business for 20 years being the same person then as he is now. Doing the same thing then as he does now, buying and selling cues and cases. He has a stack of loyal customers who report being served professionally and promptly.

So that is the counterweight to the fact that he sometimes responds in an unprofessional manner. He doesn't coddle people it's that simple. He does what he says he will do and means what he says.

So, yes, Roy is for real and a lot more real than a lot of folks in this business. I am proud to call him my friend and would take a bullet for him any day. Not proud of him barking at people through email but I have the same tendency from time to time so I can't be too harsh about it.

Nothing surprising here Birds of a feather flock together

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[cuesblues]

So you want to physically hurt people when they ask a question about a pool cue? Somebody has some serious mental issues. You are on my list of people I will never deal with.

Really, wow, I never expected anyone to take that seriously.
I encourage you to ask the 100+ people on AZ that have dealt with me how I do business.

 

[JCIN]

Man I love the consistency of these threads. You can set your watch by them.

Roy is great to deal with if you want to buy what he has at his price.

Anyone thinking of selling, trading or haggling price should just walk outside, open your car door, take out your junk and place it gently in the door jamb.....then slam the door as hard as possible.

It would be a much more pleasurable and rewarding experience than trying to sell/trade with Roy.

And I say that as a guy who considers Roy a friend. I learned a lot about cues from going to his shop. He is who he is makes no apologies for it and I dont see how anyone else can either. Some days he is just a pr!ck. Some days he is friendly dude. If you want what he has and will pay his price you will get what you pay for. Anything outside of that and you are asking too much.

 

[Ken_4fun]

Man I love the consistency of these threads. You can set your watch by them.

Roy is great to deal with if you want to buy what he has at his price.

Anyone thinking of selling, trading or haggling price should just walk outside, open your car door, take out your junk and place it gently in the door jamb.....then slam the door as hard as possible.

It would be a much more pleasurable and rewarding experience than trying to sell/trade with Roy.

And I say that as a guy who considers Roy a friend. I learned a lot about cues from going to his shop. He is who he is makes no apologies for it and I dont see how anyone else can either. Some days he is just a pr!ck. Some days he is friendly dude. If you want what he has and will pay his price you will get what you pay for. Anything outside of that and you are asking too much.

I agree....

I have a funny story about Roy...typical story from this "expert". I had just moved from Springfield Missouri to Terre Haute, Indiana. I had a friend say that we should go to Roys shop and see what he has....I say okay, lets go.

We go over and look over his inventory and he asks what I have in the case. I show him the Andy Gilbert cue I bought directly from Andy. Roy has never heard of him (not surprising...it was YEARS ago). He looks it over and says its a piece of junk, local cuemakers are all over and have poor quality compared to the cues he was selling...

I say okay no problem.

Less than a year later, Roy is NOW selling Andy Gilbert cues, and apparently he doesn't recognize me, and I ask him about one these Gilbert cues...He tells me he is great cuemaker, has known him for years, .....

Anyone that buys from Roy deserves what they get....

Ken

 

[CreeDo]

Man JB, with all the enemies you make on your own,
I dunno why you keep taking up arms for this Roy guy and generate even more

There's simply no excuse for his tone. "It's the customer's fault for being a tirekicker"
has never been a valid defense! The seller may honestly not understand how the process works this sort of thing.

As for roy's precious wasted time, it's a few emails, maybe he should reserve blowing his top for the people
that waste hours of his time, not a few minutes.

 

[holland]

I agree....

I have a funny story about Roy...typical story from this "expert". I had just moved from Springfield Missouri to Terre Haute, Indiana. I had a friend say that we should go to Roys shop and see what he has....I say okay, lets go.

We go over and look over his inventory and he asks what I have in the case. I show him the Andy Gilbert cue I bought directly from Andy. Roy has never heard of him (not surprising...it was YEARS ago). He looks it over and says its a piece of junk, local cuemakers are all over and have poor quality compared to the cues he was selling...

I say okay no problem.

Less than a year later, Roy is NOW selling Andy Gilbert cues, and apparently he doesn't recognize me, and I ask him about one these Gilbert cues...He tells me he is great cuemaker, has known him for years, .....

Anyone that buys from Roy deserves what they get....

Ken

Wow, this is the definition of sleazy.

 

[DrGonzo]

All I know is that he's had "Picture coming October 2012" posted on his site for his gambler cues. And "Pictures coming soon" posted for his gambler cases from prior to that. That alone is enough for me not to do business with him....lol....

 

[9Ballr]

"You don't even know your ass from a whole in the ground".

And then he calls you stupid.
What an idiot.

 

[Cdryden]

Eh, I can see why the guy got upset but imo he went over the top. In any public service business you have to deal with some people who are unsure of the process and as such they may take a while getting their feet underneath themselves before they know what they want. This guy didn't set out to waste anybodies time, it was probably just his first time doing something like this.
But that doesn't excuse the guy chewing him out like that. It's his business and he can obviously run it how he pleases, at his own peril. But the nice thing about that is that you don't have to do business with him. Win win.

 

[Kickin' Chicken]

Man I love the consistency of these threads. You can set your watch by them.

Roy is great to deal with if you want to buy what he has at his price.

Anyone thinking of selling, trading or haggling price should just walk outside, open your car door, take out your junk and place it gently in the door jamb.....then slam the door as hard as possible.

It would be a much more pleasurable and rewarding experience than trying to sell/trade with Roy.

And I say that as a guy who considers Roy a friend. I learned a lot about cues from going to his shop. He is who he is makes no apologies for it and I dont see how anyone else can either. Some days he is just a pr!ck. Some days he is friendly dude. If you want what he has and will pay his price you will get what you pay for. Anything outside of that and you are asking too much.

translation:

he is an asshole and a bad businessman.

I speak with firsthand knowledge, btw.

If he hit powerball tomorrow and called me to say money no longer matters and that I can have the mint, all original pre-date with three shafts for $900, I'm telling him to f-off!

Oh who am I bullshitting, I'm seeing if he's serious and trying to wrap it up. :embarrassed2:

Roy and me, what kind of monsters are we?

best,
brian kc

 

[cueaddicts]

I agree....

I have a funny story about Roy...typical story from this "expert". I had just moved from Springfield Missouri to Terre Haute, Indiana. I had a friend say that we should go to Roys shop and see what he has....I say okay, lets go.

We go over and look over his inventory and he asks what I have in the case. I show him the Andy Gilbert cue I bought directly from Andy. Roy has never heard of him (not surprising...it was YEARS ago). He looks it over and says its a piece of junk, local cuemakers are all over and have poor quality compared to the cues he was selling...

I say okay no problem.

Less than a year later, Roy is NOW selling Andy Gilbert cues, and apparently he doesn't recognize me, and I ask him about one these Gilbert cues...He tells me he is great cuemaker, has known him for years, .....

Anyone that buys from Roy deserves what they get....

Ken

Rotflmao....better not let let Vicki hear that. :nono: :duck:

 

[JCIN]

translation:

he is an asshole and a bad businessman.

I speak with firsthand knowledge, btw.

If he hit powerball tomorrow and called me to say money no longer matters and that I can have the mint, all original pre-date with three shafts for $900, I'm telling him to f-off!

Oh who am I bullshitting, I'm seeing if he's serious and trying to wrap it up. :embarrassed2:

Roy and me, what kind of monsters are we?

best,
brian kc

No real translation needed as I think I was pretty clear. Roy is Roy. Love him, hate him, cuss him, whatever . Might as well scream at a mountain.

 

[Kickin' Chicken]

No real translation needed as I think I was pretty clear. Roy is Roy. Love him, hate him, cuss him, whatever . Might as well scream at a mountain.

good call, translation was the wrong word.

I'll change it to abbreviation. :smile:

best,
brian kc

 

[JB Cases]

Man JB, with all the enemies you make on your own,
I dunno why you keep taking up arms for this Roy guy and generate even more

There's simply no excuse for his tone. "It's the customer's fault for being a tirekicker"
has never been a valid defense! The seller may honestly not understand how the process works this sort of thing.

As for roy's precious wasted time, it's a few emails, maybe he should reserve blowing his top for the people
that waste hours of his time, not a few minutes.

Well I happen to know another side of "this Roy guy". I don't agree with everything he says and does but I know he has a very good side to him.

So for me it's one of those situations where I value his friendship much more than I dislike his gruff side.

What I find kind of funny is that SOME of the people who are so quick to jump on Roy for being "mean" in email have no problem at all being nastier to me on this forum in public every day. They also have no problem with anyone else being nasty and mean to me or with each other.

I can only guess that there must be something personal and deeper going on than just general moral outrage at Roy's meanness for them to ignore the daily doses of nastiness tossed around on AZB every day.

 

[CreeDo]

Well I happen to know another side of "this Roy guy". I don't agree with everything he says and does but I know he has a very good side to him.

So for me it's one of those situations where I value his friendship much more than I dislike his gruff side.

What I find kind of funny is that SOME of the people who are so quick to jump on Roy for being "mean" in email have no problem at all being nastier to me on this forum in public every day. They also have no problem with anyone else being nasty and mean to me or with each other.

I can only guess that there must be something personal and deeper going on than just general moral outrage at Roy's meanness for them to ignore the daily doses of nastiness tossed around on AZB every day.

Think of how it feels when someone treats you like crap on the forum and Wilson say (or implies)
"well JB was in the wrong, so he brought it on himself, I don't see any problem here. Carry on."
That's probably how it feels when someone gets treated like garbage by roy and you stick up for him :/

Pointing out that other people act like jerks doesn't mean it's ok.
Two wrongs don't make a right... right?