Us open 10ball and 8ball

Here are the balls.

I guess the same brand and style were in use in the action room at Southern Classic. So it nationals will be using the same animal.

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The green ball looks like what comes out after a night of whiskey, burritos and bad decisions.

I weighed ten of the fifteen of the cyclop balls in the set. The one ball, nine ball and cue ball weighed 169 grams each. All the rest weighed 168 grams.

I weighed ten balls out of a set of Aramith Super Pro's and a red circle cue ball. The red circle weighed 168 grams and the aramith balls varied between 167 grams and 169 grams. There was a wider variance in the Super Pro's than the cyclop in the small batches I looked at. I think that variance of a gram plus or minus means nothing for either ball set but its what I saw when I weighed what what is in front of me.

They very well could suck. But it would be pretty nice to actually see how they do before grabbing the pitchforks.
 
JCIN said:
Here are the balls.

I guess the same brand and style were in use in the action room at Southern Classic. So it nationals will be using the same animal.

9243341192_03e259b4b8_b.jpg


The green ball looks like what comes out after a night of whiskey, burritos and bad decisions.

I weighed ten of the fifteen of the cyclop balls in the set. The one ball, nine ball and cue ball weighed 169 grams each. All the rest weighed 168 grams.

I weighed ten balls out of a set of Aramith Super Pro's and a red circle cue ball. The red circle weighed 168 grams and the aramith balls varied between 167 grams and 169 grams. There was a wider variance in the Super Pro's than the cyclop in the small batches I looked at. I think that variance of a gram plus or minus means nothing for either ball set but its what I saw when I weighed what what is in front of me.

They very well could suck. But it would be pretty nice to actually see how they do before grabbing the pitchforks.
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Heard they ain't worth a hoot! :thumbup:
 
JCIN said:
You mean like golfers going to a new course?

Downhill skiers running a course during a snowfall?

Baseball players playing during the rain?

A field goal kicker kicking in blowing wind?

F1 race teams having to race on tires provided by an outside vendor that change during the year?

To start in on the whole "These balls are what is wrong with pool." before ever actually seeing them or using them is a bit premature but in no way surprising.
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Well, no.

I was thinking more like the pennant races starting and the teams being told they would not be playing with Rawling baseballs; or kicking off the NBA playoffs and telling them no Spalding basketballs; or even the Stanley Cup playoffs and no Sherwood puck. I was thinking how all those players would love to be told they were going to instead be playing the biggest games of the season with balls/pucks from a different manufacturer, that they had not been playing with all season, and that they'd never had the chance to practice with. But then, I would like to think a smart cookie like you knows that.

Cue sports have always been games of precision, geometry and physics. We don't worry about moguls, rain, or windage. Even within similar disciplines, think how this would go over with the lads showing up at The Crucible, or the annual Union Mondiale de Billiard event. "Hey guys, guess what? Chinese balls this year you've never had the chance to play with!" But, for whatever reasons, pool players are just supposed to suck it up quietly and keep coloring. God forbid something like this is brought up as an issue for discussion, lol.

And last I checked, no one is saying “These balls are what is wrong with pool.” But to throw that kind of false acusation out there is in no way surprising either ;-)

Lou Figueroa
 
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JCIN said:
Here are the balls.

I guess the same brand and style were in use in the action room at Southern Classic. So it nationals will be using the same animal.

9243341192_03e259b4b8_b.jpg


The green ball looks like what comes out after a night of whiskey, burritos and bad decisions.

I weighed ten of the fifteen of the cyclop balls in the set. The one ball, nine ball and cue ball weighed 169 grams each. All the rest weighed 168 grams.

I weighed ten balls out of a set of Aramith Super Pro's and a red circle cue ball. The red circle weighed 168 grams and the aramith balls varied between 167 grams and 169 grams. There was a wider variance in the Super Pro's than the cyclop in the small batches I looked at. I think that variance of a gram plus or minus means nothing for either ball set but its what I saw when I weighed what what is in front of me.

They very well could suck. But it would be pretty nice to actually see how they do before grabbing the pitchforks.
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Thanks for the pics. I kinda like the looks of them but it all depends on the way they play. I wonder how much a set costs. Does Mark plan to sell them once the event is over?
 
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I don't really know what to make of these, about 1/4 of me is wanting to like the funky colors, 1/4 is saying there is something not quite right with the numbers the font or size is just unbalanced, 1/4 is thinking that the finish looks like it's over the balls and not part of them and will crack quickly and 1/4 is really interested in trying them as there is very little from China that works as well as it looks or looks as good as it does in pictures once you examine it. There is a reason all those knock-off iPad clones sell new for $100 and then show up on craigslist a week after people try them.

According to the schedule, the rooms with the tables are open 11pm to morning, if these are in use there I'm looking forward to trying them.

I will say that the girls in the Jr Nationals will love them ;):smile: the colors are interesting. Remind me a bit of the Harry Potter Jelly Bellies.
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JCIN said:
Here are the balls.

I guess the same brand and style were in use in the action room at Southern Classic. So it nationals will be using the same animal.

9243341192_03e259b4b8_b.jpg


The green ball looks like what comes out after a night of whiskey, burritos and bad decisions.

I weighed ten of the fifteen of the cyclop balls in the set. The one ball, nine ball and cue ball weighed 169 grams each. All the rest weighed 168 grams.

I weighed ten balls out of a set of Aramith Super Pro's and a red circle cue ball. The red circle weighed 168 grams and the aramith balls varied between 167 grams and 169 grams. There was a wider variance in the Super Pro's than the cyclop in the small batches I looked at. I think that variance of a gram plus or minus means nothing for either ball set but its what I saw when I weighed what what is in front of me.

They very well could suck. But it would be pretty nice to actually see how they do before grabbing the pitchforks.
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lfigueroa said:
Well, no.

I was thinking more like the pennant races starting and the teams being told they would not be playing with Rawling baseballs; or kicking off the NBA playoffs and telling them no Spalding basketballs; or even the Stanley Cup playoffs and no Sherwood puck. I was thinking how all those players would love to be told they were going to instead be playing the biggest games of the season with balls/pucks from a different manufacturer, that they had not been playing with all season, and that they'd never had the chance to practice with. But then, I would like to think a smart cookie like you knows that.

Cue sports have always been games of precision, geometry and physics. We don't worry about moguls, rain, or windage. Even within similar disciplines, think how this would go over with the lads showing up at The Crucible, or the annual Union Mondiale de Billiard event. "Hey guys, guess what? Chinese balls this year you've never had the chance to play with!" But, for whatever reasons, pool players are just supposed to suck it up quietly and keep coloring. God forbid something like this is brought up as an issue for discussion, lol.

And last I checked, no one is saying “These balls are what is wrong with pool.” But to throw that kind of false acusation out there is in no way surprising either ;-)

Lou Figueroa
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Dude you are the one making sweeping outlandish claims about "Imagine any other sport...." like its some giant deal. It is a simple leap to "This is whats wrong with pool..." we have only seen it a hundred times before on this forum.

They are pool balls.

I understand exactly what you meant I was trying to make the point the decision was not made without some consideration.

When you get to Vegas I'll buy you a beer and we can both throw baby shit green six balls at Griffin.
 
I actually like the pastel colors on the ball. I think it would 'Pop" better against the Tournament Blue Simonis cloth and less tiring to the eyes.

S. G.
 
JCIN said:
Dude you are the one making sweeping outlandish claims about "Imagine any other sport...." like its some giant deal. It is a simple leap to "This is whats wrong with pool..." we have only seen it a hundred times before on this forum.

They are pool balls.

I understand exactly what you meant I was trying to make the point the decision was not made without some consideration.

When you get to Vegas I'll buy you a beer and we can both throw baby shit green six balls at Griffin.
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Dude, when I need a spokesmodel I'll be sure to shoot you an email. Until then, don't put words in my mouth. Certainly you must know by now that I have never been one to go with the flow on this forum, so what's gone before a 100 times has nothing to do with me.

I believe you know I'm a fan of all Mark does for the game. And, truth be told, what's going on with this "issue" is more a PR cluster-fook than anything else and could have *easily* been avoided.And, however much consideration the decision was given "the rollout" left a lot to be desired.

Here, just for the record: funky colored balls with unknown playing properties from Shanghai that are being introduced for the first time at three US Open events *is not* what's wrong with pool.

Is everybody happy?

Lou Figueroa
I'll buy
the 2nd round :-)
 
lfigueroa said:
Dude, when I need a spokesmodel I'll be sure to shoot you an email. Until then, don't put words in my mouth. Certainly you must know by now that I have never been one to go with the flow on this forum, so what's gone before a 100 times has nothing to do with me.

I believe you know I'm a fan of all Mark does for the game. And, truth be told, what's going on with this "issue" is more a PR cluster-fook than anything else and could have *easily* been avoided.And, however much consideration the decision was given "the rollout" left a lot to be desired.

Here, just for the record: funky colored balls with unknown playing properties from Shanghai that are being introduced for the first time at three US Open events *is not* what's wrong with pool.

Lou Figueroa
I'll buy
the 2nd round :-)
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New balls require a PR campaign?

Wait till you see the racks.
 
Jesus what a bunch of babies. Who cares if the colours are a lil different, shoot em in the hole and shut up!!!!
 
Those of you that are not very good players don't seem to GET it.

Pool is difficult to say the least.

It is a game of elimination.

You eliminate the errors in your setup, your bridge, your aim and your stroke.

Then you eliminate the Shark, the playing conditions, the fact that you are the only one in the room rooting for you and the cue ball, the humidity and everything else.

You know the way the balls will react and you have memorized the color sequence. Numbers don't count.

So now we have big tournament with new balls that you have never seen, let alone played with, a mismatched cue ball because it's better for the crowd? and what's next?

It takes hundred of hours perhaps thousands of hours of practice with a set of balls to know that you can move the cue ball exactly 1/16 of a inch with confidence and bet your money on it.

This is so typical of the pool world in that people who don't really know how to play make all the decisions for those that do.

I guess it's the same in all sports. How depressing.

Bill S.
 
Oh no, something different! Get out the pitchforks. Pro level players are obviously incapable of handling any set of differences in playing equipment. I wonder what Mosconi would say to this variance of equipment.... lol

If this matters so much to the naysayers, please fund whatever choice of equipment for the next round of CSI events.... lol
 
NickV said:
Oh no, something different! Get out the pitchforks. Pro level players are obviously incapable of handling any set of differences in playing equipment. I wonder what Mosconi would say to this variance of equipment.... lol

If this matters so much to the naysayers, please fund whatever choice of equipment for the next round of CSI events.... lol
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Mosconi knew how important the balls were and carried his own from exhibition to exhibition.

Occasionally he'd lose one along the way :-)

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
Are you entered into any of the US Open events?

Lou Figueroa
looking at that stance
probably not
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I am and I highly doubt the brand of balls will determine the winner of any of the events. You're both using the same balls, same table. Just put em in the hole.
 
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