Just Got my first GF&*$ yourself on a private message on AZ
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I sold 1 and 3.
JC
Coos Cues
I never understand the emotion involved with buying and selling. What the hell is insulting about an offer of any kind? People sell things all the time for much less than they may have at another time and place. Much more too. Nobody is trying to ass rape anyone for god's sake, it's just commerce as it's existed from the beginning of time. Yes or no, how hard is that?
At the end of this journey everything we have owned in our lives will belong to someone else. Many times for pennies on the dollar we paid for them. Our most prized possessions may be converted to jack stands later. Why get your undies in a bundle about it?
I wouldn't give more than 2 bills for that cue either. So I guess that's it's market value, whatever that means.
JC
At the end of this journey everything we have owned in our lives will belong to someone else. Many times for pennies on the dollar we paid for them. Our most prized possessions may be converted to jack stands later. Why get your undies in a bundle about it?
I wouldn't give more than 2 bills for that cue either. So I guess that's it's market value, whatever that means.
JC
I wonder what the world's population of human beings would be if they could actually perform that act?
A cue is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Listing other cues and saying what they sold for does not validate your argument.
While I would not have responded the way he did with a GFY I am not sure if I would have even responded to you.
I would be interested to see you walk into a pawn shop in real life and offer to pay half of what an item is marked at. They would probably respond the same way or just laugh at you kind of like the majority of people who responded in this thread.
I like offers . It gives me the option as the seller to counteroffer and see what the interest in the cue really is. If there is no middle ground you can always just say no. Never be rude or a dick because you might post something down the road that the party you insulted would have bought from you had you not treated them like crap the first time around.
I think posting a PM is about the same as a foot cam in a mall. If I want to wear a skirt with no panties, I shouldn't have to worry about some perv and his foot camera. Not that I would wear a skirt and panties, but if I did.
I do this regularly. A lot of times I can get things for 30%-40% of their price. Especially if it sat for any period of time or they have duplicates.
I just bought a Delta scroll saw, almost new for 35 dollars two days ago. Had it listed for 90 after having it listed for 130 for 6 months. New it runs 299.
A couple months back I bought two Ricco Cervantes cues for 100 dollars. That's 100 for the pair. Flipped them on ebay after not being able to move them here..
Pawn shops aren't the best place for deals but you can't find the good deals unless you ask.
Never had a pawn shop tell me to "eff off" after an offer. Most guys will take the time to ask their manager and attempt to work a deal.
I could list pages of pawn shop finds. Everything from watches to guitars to cues and tooling. Generally speaking between pawn shop and resale shop finds I flip a good 800 a month on ebay, that's profit.
This guys post has a price listed. And it's a brand new cue. Bottom line is he made a dumb offer and got an answer he didn't like like. And now he is whining.
Not sure where you come from but around here we don't curse at people for reasons like this. He could have simply said "no" or said they he didn't appreciate the low offer.
An ignorant request is going to draw an ignorant response. I'm not saying that he handled it the right way but I also am not going to say I wouldn't have told the guy he was an idiot. There comes a point when an offer gets so low it just becomes obnoxious
Banks
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That's right, leave it to Kentucky to inject a good dose of sense into this one. OP asked the seller a stupid question and got a stupid answer.
Actually it didn't. He started a whole new thread linking to his old thread. The old thread had a price but the new thread did not. It said motivated seller send offers. He opened himself up for it.
Motivated seller+ send offers= opportunity for low ball offers. Plain and simple, forget the fact that this also happens to be a community of pool players.
Absolutely!!! and a fact that many people forget when they bang-on about what such-and-such is 'worth'
If somebody posts an item for sale, they are probably going to get a few offers - some might seem ridiculously low to the seller, but at the end of the day - the highest offer received IS the value of the item regardless of what anybody says. If the seller is unhappy with this, then they can keep the item since they 'value' it so highly.
Economics Lecturer (not that it means sh!t)
Bob
I got a basic joss cue in like new condition on here for $70 shipped last month. I gave it to my brother for changing my water pump in my truck. There are great deals on this site if you find someone that needs the cash. I didn't need a basic cue but would have gave it to my niece. She has a warped Bernie Garma cue now that doesn't hit right. No worries on to the next opportunity.
Welcome to the internet!
When you post something for sale, it should be no surprise at all to receive really egregious low-ball offers. I've gotten them before. Simple solution? IGNORE the message. Hit the delete button. Even responding to them negatively is encouragement of sorts. It's like letting the salesman stick a foot in the door.
Think about it, for buyers out there, there is nothing to lose. It's easier to low ball on the net, because it isn't face to face and it is less embarrassing, less confrontational, and offending to low ball on the net. Takes less courage to do it. You type a message and send it. Most would not make such offers face to face.
Now, low ballers wouldn't do it if there wasn't the occasional desperate seller out there who says yes to the low ball offer. You know this, because the low-baller then goes on to brag how they got a nearly new Predator shaft for $85 or something like that. They usually state how they bought it, at which point others in the thread post in amazement and envy at how the bragging low baller got such a great deal. This further encourages the low ball offers.
There are of course those people who over price their junk. Either because they think their precious junk is worth a lot more, or because they want to buffer against lower offers to get their real asking price. That stuff rarely sells.
Most cues do drop in price and lose value. Only select custom cues, those who are in vogue and sought after increase in price due to demand. Oh, and perhaps some production cues from a past era that are viewed to be of a higher quality. But only with skillful buying and selling. This is the realm of the experienced cue collector.
No one is paying anywhere near new price for a used cue. That should be common sense. Taking a 30-50% hit is not unreasonable. Buyer has certain risk involved. For one, it's used. Secondly, it could be warped, dented - there's no solid return policy. No guarantees. They can buy new for a little bit more and have new with guarantees. For one person, $300 may be a ton of cash - for someone else it is nothing at all. To the person who it is nothing at all, it doesn't bother them a bit to buy the same thing at new price - therefore, for them to bite on a used, it has to be heavily discounted.
When you post something for sale, it should be no surprise at all to receive really egregious low-ball offers. I've gotten them before. Simple solution? IGNORE the message. Hit the delete button. Even responding to them negatively is encouragement of sorts. It's like letting the salesman stick a foot in the door.
Think about it, for buyers out there, there is nothing to lose. It's easier to low ball on the net, because it isn't face to face and it is less embarrassing, less confrontational, and offending to low ball on the net. Takes less courage to do it. You type a message and send it. Most would not make such offers face to face.
Now, low ballers wouldn't do it if there wasn't the occasional desperate seller out there who says yes to the low ball offer. You know this, because the low-baller then goes on to brag how they got a nearly new Predator shaft for $85 or something like that. They usually state how they bought it, at which point others in the thread post in amazement and envy at how the bragging low baller got such a great deal. This further encourages the low ball offers.
There are of course those people who over price their junk. Either because they think their precious junk is worth a lot more, or because they want to buffer against lower offers to get their real asking price. That stuff rarely sells.
Most cues do drop in price and lose value. Only select custom cues, those who are in vogue and sought after increase in price due to demand. Oh, and perhaps some production cues from a past era that are viewed to be of a higher quality. But only with skillful buying and selling. This is the realm of the experienced cue collector.
No one is paying anywhere near new price for a used cue. That should be common sense. Taking a 30-50% hit is not unreasonable. Buyer has certain risk involved. For one, it's used. Secondly, it could be warped, dented - there's no solid return policy. No guarantees. They can buy new for a little bit more and have new with guarantees. For one person, $300 may be a ton of cash - for someone else it is nothing at all. To the person who it is nothing at all, it doesn't bother them a bit to buy the same thing at new price - therefore, for them to bite on a used, it has to be heavily discounted.
I couldn't find the ad, but unless the seller was the maker of the cue, I don't think it's a brand new cue. If it were brand new, he would have been buying it direct from a distributor of the cue, or the builder.
It may be "I just purchased it and it's never been used". But once it's been purchased once, it's no longer brand new.
Go buy a "brand new car" and try to sell it for the retail price and see how that works for you.
I gamble a lot in the bay area. Probably more then anyone else. I met nothing but great people on here. EX. Cleiton Rocha who sent me a cue in trade before I sent mine. Just baffeled by the pm. I do not believe in matching up I have ever told someone that.