So here's a weird one. Ever see a "lag cue"?

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Was reading a one pocket book a while ago, "Upscale One Pocket", and the author said
serious 1p players should consider getting a dedicated lag cue. He's a very scientific guy
and points out a lot of interesting subtleties in a game (like how the break plays differently
on a bar box for example).

I believe he said the ideal lag cue would have a large diameter, flat tip, and be very light...
like 10 ounces. Because apparently light cue = easier to control the speed.

Has anyone seen or heard of such a thing outside of this book?
 
Aren't there plenty of shots in One Pocket hit no more forcefully than a lag?
 
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CreeDo said:
Was reading a one pocket book a while ago, "Upscale One Pocket", and the author said
serious 1p players should consider getting a dedicated lag cue. He's a very scientific guy
and points out a lot of interesting subtleties in a game (like how the break plays differently
on a bar box for example).

I believe he said the ideal lag cue would have a large diameter, flat tip, and be very light...
like 10 ounces. Because apparently light cue = easier to control the speed.

Has anyone seen or heard of such a thing outside of this book?
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It does make some sense to me. But if I was playing pro major tournaments I'd be practicing my lag a lot because feel more tournaments are going to the alt break and winning the lag can be huge. Johnnyt
 
If you can't control the speed with your regular cue for the lag, you can't control the speed needed for the rest of the game.
 
rare item . . .

if anyone is interested, I have a dedicated lag cue case. :grin-square: :eek: ;)

best,
brian kc
 
CreeDo said:
Was reading a one pocket book a while ago, "Upscale One Pocket", and the author said
serious 1p players should consider getting a dedicated lag cue. He's a very scientific guy
and points out a lot of interesting subtleties in a game (like how the break plays differently
on a bar box for example).

I believe he said the ideal lag cue would have a large diameter, flat tip, and be very light...
like 10 ounces. Because apparently light cue = easier to control the speed.

Has anyone seen or heard of such a thing outside of this book?
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Creedo,

I learned to play with a 15 oz. & 17 oz. that I had cut into a sneaky.
I was playing a week or so ago for 5 hours on a 9' Diamond with 4" pockets & 760 Simonis. The cue I had with the OB Classic shaft is about 17.5 oz. I made a comment that I'd like to have a 14 oz. cue or that 15 oz. that I learned to play with.

I've never heard of a 10 oz. but I have played with some bar cues that felt about 12 oz. & I liked them.

All the Best,
Rick
 
Most likely, Kamui will develop lag chalk. How else could you get a lag cue to work properly?
 
i think learning to play well with more than one cue would just be more work than its worth.



there are lots of 1P shots where you roll the ball dead weight, and to learn those shots with a cue that weighs differnt than my normal cue would be complicated, what if i forgot the feel of the "lag" cue and over hit the ball cause its too light, big problem.

sounds like this guy was writing about his ideas not practical pool. what ever that means:cool:
 
Yes and the tip makers will be scrambling to make lag tips.. I LOVE Az fwiw!! You guys are great!!!
 
With the fast cloth today I'm surprised that the average cue isn't 18 oz or less. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
With the fast cloth today I'm surprised that the average cue isn't 18 oz or less. Johnnyt
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Johnnyt,

Mine is & always has been 18 or less even on the slower cloth.

I could always add some umph, but hitting them soft enough with a heavy cue is not always that easy.

Regards & Best Wishes,
Rick
 
I'm looking for someone with 49 years of experience playing pool to teach me some stuff. Sorry, no less than 49 years. Interested applicants, please PM BlackBalled.
 
Never heard of it but why not? I would almost bet though that the same person who is in favor of a lag cue is against jump cues.

But seriously, if a player wants to have a draw cue, a follow cue, a lag cue, a jump cue, etc... why not?

After all it's still the player who has to take the shot.

The way I feel about it is that IF you are allowing cues with shafts that allege to reduce deflection and increase spin then you're already allowing "performance enhancing" equipment if you believe the advertising. And it's actually a fact that some cues perform better than others. But people don't always perform better even if they own the wonder shafts. So what it comes down to is that it's the person who has to pull the trigger.

I am a pretty good jumper. Done tons of exhibitions and have a routine down that is impressive. And I have pulled off a lot of great jump shots. I have also dogged my brains out on routine jump shots as well. I have dogged the stroke so bad it was horrible. So let people use their lag cues, it will probably not mean much in the end. Shooters will still need to get used to it and develop the right touch AND be able to bring it when it counts.
 
JB Cases said:
Never heard of it but why not? I would almost bet though that the same person who is in favor of a lag cue is against jump cues.

But seriously, if a player wants to have a draw cue, a follow cue, a lag cue, a jump cue, etc... why not?

After all it's still the player who has to take the shot.

The way I feel about it is that IF you are allowing cues with shafts that allege to reduce deflection and increase spin then you're already allowing "performance enhancing" equipment if you believe the advertising. And it's actually a fact that some cues perform better than others. But people don't always perform better even if they own the wonder shafts. So what it comes down to is that it's the person who has to pull the trigger.

I am a pretty good jumper. Done tons of exhibitions and have a routine down that is impressive. And I have pulled off a lot of great jump shots. I have also dogged my brains out on routine jump shots as well. I have dogged the stroke so bad it was horrible. So let people use their lag cues, it will probably not mean much in the end. Shooters will still need to get used to it and develop the right touch AND be able to bring it when it counts.
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In a Nut Shell..., it's the Indian, not the Arrows !:eek:
 
David Marcus said:
In a Nut Shell..., it's the Indian, not the Arrows !:eek:
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It's a little bit of both. I can give you a crappy cue from Kmart and it will probably affect your performance negatively. On the other hand I can give you the best cue made and you might perform much better than you ever have on your best day.
 
CreeDo said:
Was reading a one pocket book a while ago, "Upscale One Pocket", and the author said
serious 1p players should consider getting a dedicated lag cue. He's a very scientific guy
and points out a lot of interesting subtleties in a game (like how the break plays differently
on a bar box for example).

I believe he said the ideal lag cue would have a large diameter, flat tip, and be very light...
like 10 ounces. Because apparently light cue = easier to control the speed.

Has anyone seen or heard of such a thing outside of this book?
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No, but I've seen one-pocket matches where Grady Matthews uses a different cue for breaking. If I had to guess, I'd say he also used it for the lags.
 
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poolguy4u said:
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Sounds like you haven't tried many arrows.


:lmao:
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That is why there is a bunch of research into arrow making and producing repeatable arrows for target archery.
I often hear it's the arrow not the Indian, an average Joe with great arrows will beat a good Indian with bad arrows every time.

You need to try a lot of arrows to find the type that suite you.
Same for pool cues.
Neil
 
This is meant as light humor, so here goes:

Imagine this, a tour golfer style bag with no more than 14 cues allowed during a match. You can have no more than x amount of cubes of chalk & only one single glove at any time.

You also can't forget the caddy errr "Cueddy"?

His or her, job is to wipe down your cue shafts & grips should they become dirty, sweaty or chalk fouled. Their duties also include cleaning the cue ball before each break, a quick brushing of the table before every break & racking the balls for their player.

However at no time during the match is the "Cueddy" allowed to communicate with their player unless a game has come to an end, or if it is before the break.


back to being serious:

Where does it end? We already have a break cue, a playing cue, a jump cue, a snooker cue etc etc...
What's next for the game, a "lag" cue? A "masse" cue? a cut-shot cue? a power draw cue? A 7ft table cue? A 9ft table cue? And, who knows what else......
Now with the crazy amount of cues you now must own, you have to have 3-5 of each, each with a differing hardness of tips.
I can see the future now, where everyone who walks into a poolhall is carrying what years ago would be called a dealers case.

One things for certain. If this comes to be, the cue and case manufacturers are going to love it.

Dopc.
 
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