Critique My Game.

Ain't nuttin wrong wid dat game yo.

B+ at least, smooth shooting with nice layouts, maybe higher if you can string racks. If you think you are a "banger" you must be around some strong players in comparison.
 
Just a good banger? LOL I only had time for just over half of the video and never saw you miss, that puts you somewhere between SVB and Jay Helfert.

Your stroke looks advanced and it seems you know all the shots. Good break and decent cue ball control after.

You get docked for hitting your head on the light but that was the lights fault:wink:.

A couple of questions.

Is that a 9 ft table
Why cant Shazam ID your sound track???

My evaluation is a tad higher then a good banger, nice shooting.
 
kinda hard to tell when you're pattern racking the 1 in front and the 9 in the middle on every rack.

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I find this to be an interesting post. Anyone who can put four or five racks together and make some of the position and cut shots made in this video knows enough about pool to know they are not just a banger, especially if they can do it consistently. I'd rather have someone announce that they are showing a nice set against the ghost they played than to play dumb hoping for people to give them props.

The OP has a nice stroke and obvious position play knowledge. If he can do it with any consistency, he's a minimum solid B, and maybe a fair amount better. Good shooting.
 
1. You tend to rise up in your final stroke. It doesn't seem to be affecting you much, but it easily can. Looks like it might be from using a piston stroke and you have to raise up to keep the cue level on the followthrough. (it's not necessary, and just is something that CAN go wrong. Once the cb is gone, the cue doesn't have to stay level anymore)

2. Learn to reassess your patterns when you get out of line. You tend to just keep the same rhythm and hope for the best. Good example is the 2nd rack at 3:30. You shot the 3 and got out of line on the 4. You just jumped on shooting it in the side and essentially hoping you would get a shot on the 6 after the unnecessary break out.

Learn to take an extra second or two to re-evaluate the situation. You easily could have shot the 4 in the corner and come back to middle table for the 6 with no danger of not having a shot afterwards. Little things like that can add up. Don't take unnecessary chances figuring it will all work out. ---ok, next rack you did exactly that, good. Learn to do it whenever you get out of line though.

3. Take an extra sec. or two to really look at where you want the cb to be, and what side of the ob you want to be on. Will be awkward at first, but you will quickly learn to do this while keeping your mental rhythm going.

4. 9:06- shot on the 8, can't tell by camera angle just what angle you had, so have to go by what the cb did.... always nice to "let your stroke out", but, as you see, you came a hair away from having a tough bank on the 9. Might have been better to follow and come back down table for the 9 in the same pocket. Less chance of something going wrong.??? Idea is- whenever possible, eliminate what can go wrong. Even if you have to go an extra rail or two, try and choose the safest route.

5. 10:47 You shot the 3 and used the tangent line to go between the 5 and 9 to get on the 4. Good use of the tangent line. However, as you found out, was difficult to get to where you wanted to be going that way. I would have used follow and gone into the 5, moving it over a little and holding the cb there. Then shot the 4 in the far corner, or maybe even the side, and had a much easier shot on the 5.

Where you did end up, the 6 easily could have come into play and killed the run. Again, taking a chance that you really didn't need to. Most shy away from the long shots. With your aiming, there is no need to. And, as in this case, the reward is well worth shooting the long shot to make the rest of the game easier.

6. 13:00- What the heck was that??? LOL Got bored and wanted to let your stroke out?? Even in practice, play like you have money on it. You should have controlled the two after the combo, not play whack-a-mole and get lucky!:D Rest of that rack looked like "shape? Don't need no stinkin shape, that's for people that can't aim!" :grin:

7. You tend to hit everything rather firm. Nap cloth on there??

8. Overall, very good shooting. Exceptional aiming. Not so great on position play. You need to work on that some more. Right now your aiming is getting you through the tough shots. Might or might not under pressure, depends on how well you handle pressure.?? Work on position play and routes some more.

Hard to really say your speed. Shotmaking is an A+. Position play a B+. Speed control a B+, should be higher on your own table. You do tend to get out a lot where most wouldn't......I'd say an A player. Maybe a little higher.

I know you don't like drills, but give the Billiard University test a shot. It will help point out things you can work on. Don't just rest on your superior shotmaking abilities to carry you through all the time. Get your speed and position play up, which means cb control, and you could jump up to pro speed.
 
Hi Antony,

That you can transfer whitey from A to B should be easy to see :-)

What can definitley be a problem is that you tend to come up to early before you ve executed the stroke completley (before hitting cb). Here you REALLY should work on buddy! This can ruin your really strong game. And not just concentrate on this topic on shots where you have to accelerate a bit more-- you have to burn it in on every single shot.
Head and Shoulder are connected--as soon you move your head (for example if coming up too early) the chain-reaction will go its way :-) . Head--Shoulder--Elbow..etc.

You re a really strong player-- i m not very familar with those A, B , C , D ratings.
But i would say B+ to A without having a negative thought.
And if you would play additional many competitions with strong players (pro-speed), you will be able to keep this level of skill. I m sure about that.

If you finetune your stance and timing (coming up to early, not finishing every time).
you re damn strong and you ll be an opponent which i don t want to meet in a tournament :-)

have a smooth stroke buddy,

lg from overseas

Ingo


@Neil
good comments.
 
Nice shooting! Show us a 50 ball run in straight pool. You are certainly good enough not to have to paint by number. :D
 
Somewhere in the B range, possibly B+. As Neil said, shotmaking is in the A range, which is often case for players at your current level, but I think the rest of your game brings the overall down into the B range.

The reason I say B is because your position play is a bit potluck at times, the cueball is often on the wrong side of the object ball, position routes and patterns are seldom optimal, and there is a heavy, heavy burden placed on shotmaking. Based on this, I would have to assume that safety play and kicking are also lagging significantly, and, IMO, you must have those things buttoned down pretty good to be considered an A player. A video of you playing 14.1 would be far more telling, but unless you were on the stall in your fist video, I think I've seen enough to provide a fair analysis.

The good news is that for your shotmaking to be so strong, you are obviously doing a lot of things right. I doubt there is anything seriously wrong with your setup or mechanics, although, watching your stroke, I am a bit concerned that you may not always be striking the cueball where you intend to on the vertical axis. There are drills to test/work on this.

What I usually tell people at this stage is that in order to elevate your game, you first have to elevate your expectations. Regardless of where you fall on the ABC scale, it's clear that 9-ball is too easy of a game for you. Unfortunately, 9-ball allows a good shotmaker to run himself out of position, chop in 2 backward cuts in a row, and still get out - which makes it a terrible practice game for anyone who plays B level or above. You need to be playing games that punish you for not being on the correct side of the ball and not playing good patterns. I'd recommend a mix of 15-ball rotation, 14.1, and one pocket. A steady diet of that for a year, and you will be solidly in the A range, I'm thinking.

Best of luck,
Aaron
 
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What's to critique? You seldom ever meese a ball.

How do you do in tournaments?

JoeyA
 
Pretty much what others have said, you seem to count on shotmaking a lot and don't mind leaving yourself
kinda long or kinda thin on balls. Or maybe you do mind but it keeps happening anyway.

At a glance it seems like those pockets play a little easy and you take advantage of that.
No fear of getting on the wrong side or too long or too straight.

I'd say tighten up your shape, before every shot decide what side of the ball you want to be on.
Then make sure you get there. And get closer to the ball. That cloth doesn't seem to play like
super fast and slippery, so you can afford to hit firm and get within 2 feet of the next ball.
 
I really can't see how this guy doesn't control the cb well. He can pot anything without sidespin and with any kind of spin combos. So, I am sure he can play cb position. Maybe in 9 ball his mind is very calm because of his shotmaking skills and he doesn't mind leaving "tough shots". He can make any shot.
I also can't find antything wrong about his fundamentals and mechanics. What about Alex Higgins, Efren Reyes, Francisco Bustamante........ .??? Can we say anything about their mechanics and body movement? If something works for us we don't have to change it.

Thanks for reading
 
I really can't see how this guy doesn't control the cb well. He can pot anything without sidespin and with any kind of spin combos. So, I am sure he can play cb position. Maybe in 9 ball his mind is very calm because of his shotmaking skills and he doesn't mind leaving "tough shots". He can make any shot.
I also can't find antything wrong about his fundamentals and mechanics. What about Alex Higgins, Efren Reyes, Francisco Bustamante........ .??? Can we say anything about their mechanics and body movement? If something works for us we don't have to change it.

Thanks for reading

I don't want to be the cause of derailing Anthony's thread so I will just say that I agree with the bold part of your post & just leave it at that.

All the Best,
Rick
 
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I like your post here.

While I too I would rather have a bit better shape on some of those shots even though I might be able to make them as well. I don't like putting undo 'pressure' on myself & they would be a bit more difficult on a tighter table. I PM'd Anthony with my little nit picking.

But to the main point of your post I agree. Too many want to pigeon hole everyone into a certain mode. Each individual is just that an individual. As such each individual that does not fit the mold & should not conform to the mold just for the sake of conformity.

What would the game look like if not for the individuals that you mention as well as others. Isn't it amazing that those individuals that don't conform to the mode seem to be the ones that play at the highest level & are not stuck in mediocrity.

I simply do not understand why some want to use a cookie cutter approach to mold everyone into what is a contrived & constructed as a basic model.

You don't restructure & re build Babe Ruth's swing to make him a base hit kind of guy when he is hitting home runs at a record pace. At least not until he can not hit home runs with his swing which never happened as he hit multiple home runs out of Camdon Yard at the end of his career.

I know, I know, he also struck out a LOT. The 'metaphor' is not meant to be an exact analogy.

I wonder where would Efren, Busty, etc, be if someone got a hold of them when they were young & changed their strokes. nobcity will probably jump in & say they are savants. That's not the case, They simply put in the time to 'perfect' 'their' strokes or if one wants to put it a different way, they perfected the use of their strokes.

Sorry for the rant & I do not want to derail Anthony's thread.

The point I am trying to make is that individuals need to take care with ANY critique that they receive & should keep in mind that the goal is the results & not a picture perfect conformity to some mold or model. This game is not one that is judged & awarded points for style. It's about the results.

All the Best,
Rick
Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think that was the intent of the people posting about position.

In my short post I suggested posting a 14.1 run, My thoughts, which I should have elaborated on then, is that in order to be considered a solid "A" player, position is an integral part.

Nine ball doesn't exemplify good position play as well as 14.1 does. A great shotmaker can get through tough 9 ball racks without total cue ball control.

There actually isn't a need for very specific position, and therefore it is difficult to evaluate that part of an "A" player's game while observing 9 ball run outs.

On the other hand, getting through the crowded traffic and clustered balls in multiple 14.1 racks on the road to a good run does offer a good example of cue ball control and a more accurate evaluation of all skills in order to rate a player's speed.

Straight pool is a very humbling game that will highlight your cue shortcomings as well as mental focus and concentration shortcomings. All IMO integral parts of a player's speed.
 
I like your post here.

While I too I would rather have a bit better shape on some of those shots even though I might be able to make them as well. I don't like putting undo 'pressure' on myself & they would be a bit more difficult on a tighter table. I PM'd Anthony with my little nit picking.

But to the main point of your post I agree. Too many want to pigeon hole everyone into a certain mode. Each individual is just that an individual. As such each individual that does not fit the mold & should not conform to the mold just for the sake of conformity.

What would the game look like if not for the individuals that you mention as well as others. Isn't it amazing that those individuals that don't conform to the mode seem to be the ones that play at the highest level & are not stuck in mediocrity.

I simply do not understand why some want to use a cookie cutter approach to mold everyone into what is a contrived & constructed basic model.

You don't restructure & re build Babe Ruth's swing to make him a base hit kind of guy when he is hitting home runs at a record pace. At least not until he can not hit home runs with his swing which never happened as he hit multiple home runs out of Camdon Yard at the end of his career.

I know, I know, he also struck out a LOT. The 'metaphor' is not meant to be an exact analogy.

I wonder where would Efren, Busty, etc, be if someone got a hold of them when they were young & changed their strokes. nobcity will probably jump in & say they are savants. That's not the case, They simply put in the time to 'perfect' 'their' strokes or if one wants to put it a different way, they perfected the use of their strokes.

Sorry for the rant & I do not want to derail Anthony's thread.

The point I am trying to make is that individuals need to take care with ANY critique that they receive & should keep in mind that the goal is the results & not a picture perfect conformity to some mold or model. This game is not one that is judged & awarded points for style. It's about the results.

All the Best,
Rick

Thanks for your comments sir !!! Sure, those great players are unique and they don't play "by the book". That's what I like. I also mentioned Alex Higgins !!! I think you know about this snooker legend !!! We don't have to play like robots !!! We express ourselves through the game !!!!

Thanks again

Panagiotis
 
I don't want to be the cause of derailing Anthony's thread so I will just say that I agree with the bold part of your post & just leave it at that.

All the Best,
Rick

What a shocker that you disagree with whatever the instructors say. Oh, still waiting for your videos, and BU scores.
 
Thanks,Neil,English,Aaron ,Ratta and the rest of you.
I do appreciate your guys veiws and help.

Its kinda interesting peoples veiws on how you play and what their seeing.
You start seeing things you didnt realize you was doing.

My speed b+=banger, maybe more.;)

This table is a 9 ft gold crown,I think the pockets are 4.5 and the tables fast.
I have a poll about 3feet away from the left side pocket,and on the right side of the corner pocket (racking end)i have a troubled area also.The pockets play tough coming down the rail.

Not a easy table to play on but im glad i got it.:)


One more question, does a b+ player beat the 9ball ghost on a reagular basis?

Bar Box?
9 footers?

What Im curiuos about is what level player should be?


Thanks again Anthony
 
Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think that was the intent of the people posting about position.

In my short post I suggested posting a 14.1 run, My thoughts, which I should have elaborated on then, is that in order to be considered a solid "A" player, position is an integral part.

Nine ball doesn't exemplify good position play as well as 14.1 does. A great shotmaker can get through tough 9 ball racks without total cue ball control.

There actually isn't a need for very specific position, and therefore it is difficult to evaluate that part of an "A" player's game while observing 9 ball run outs.

On the other hand, getting through the crowded traffic and clustered balls in multiple 14.1 racks on the road to a good run does offer a good example of cue ball control and a more accurate evaluation of all skills in order to rate a player's speed.

Straight pool is a very humbling game that will highlight your cue shortcomings as well as mental focus and concentration shortcomings. All IMO integral parts of a player's speed.

3,

I agree with you.

My post went into a bit of a rant but I was not discounting position. I have been cheating pockets with english for many a year in order to get position, etc. playing mostly 8 ball & many leagues involving small coin tables.

I was more referring to stroke mechanics, etc. as the bolded part of the post that I quoted was referencing to Efren & Busty, etc,

Regards & Best Wishes,
Rick
 
Anthony,

I am a little late to the party, and I only have one comment.

It is time for you to leave the basement and get out on the road.

:)

Thanks,Neil,English,Aaron ,Ratta and the rest of you.
I do appreciate your guys veiws and help.

Its kinda interesting peoples veiws on how you play and what their seeing.
You start seeing things you didnt realize you was doing.

My speed b+=banger, maybe more.;)

This table is a 9 ft gold crown,I think the pockets are 4.5 and the tables fast.
I have a poll about 3feet away from the left side pocket,and on the right side of the corner pocket (racking end)i have a troubled area also.The pockets play tough coming down the rail.

Not a easy table to play on but im glad i got it.:)


One more question, does a b+ player beat the 9ball ghost on a reagular basis?

Bar Box?
9 footers?

What Im curiuos about is what level player should be?


Thanks again Anthony
 
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