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[Celophanewrap]

yes nsafellow got his money

no i didn't steal a credit card( or id most definitely be facing criminal charges most likely from her)

So as I understand it (according to Mr. Daniels), NSA has been paid, it may have taken some time, but everyone has what they're supposed to have.
So, what's the problem?

...or is there more to it?

The credit card thing to me (for purposes of this transaction and our discussion) is irrelevant, that is between daniels and mom. If I'm NSA, all I want is to be paid, which according to daniels, he has been. If I understand NSA correctly, he has indicated that he has not been paid in full and it has been several months.

So the question is: Has NSA been paid?

The first post by the OP indicates that he had received payment but the credit card used to make that payment had rescinded payment and refunded it to daniels (mom) due to a dispute over that very charge. So the payment was taken back, thus NSA was without payment and merchandise. As indicated by the first post, the exchange of email and PM indicate that daniels was fully aware that the payment had been rescinded.
In daniels response to my questions, daniels indicates that after the payment was rescinded, at some point NSA has received payment in full (by some method other than mom's credit card, I'm assuming).

Has payment been made? and does everyone involved in this transaction have what they should have - what was agreed upon originally?

 

[Kickin' Chicken]

I don't usually have any input in one of these issues, but I am confused. Daniels, please correct me if I misunderstand anything or mis-state what the situation is.

1. NSAfellow sent you a case.
2. You paid him using you Mother's credit card, without her knowledge.
3. Your Mother found out and reversed the unauthorized charges.
4. Paypal took the money back out of NSAfellow's Paypal account because you had used your Mother's credit card to pay, and she had not authorized you to use it.
5. NSAfellow is out a case, the $80 that you paid with the unauthorized charge card, and $20 for shipping.

I saw where you said NSAfellow has been paid. Is that after the fuss with your Mother, or are you still stating that the original payment that you made to Paypal with an unauthorized credit card was, in fact, the only payment to which NSAfellow was entitled?

Is it now NSAfellow's responsibility to haggle with your Mother in order to somehow get her to pay him the money for your unauthorized credit card use?

I am just asking for some clarification. You have the case, correct? Is it someone else's duty to pay for the item that you have in your possession, or am I misunderstanding something?

Just send the case back to NSAfellow....wait...I just saw where someone said that you sold that case on Ebay. Certainly, you did not do that, did you? If so, then someone should contact the buyer and Ebay. Then, the buyer would know that he is a holder of possible stolen property, and Ebay could seek some recourse, too.

Joe

shut up and mind your business you big, fat, crimson elephant.

I figured I'd save daniels the trouble of responding to your d-I-r-e-c-t and intelligent questions.

He doesn't seem to like answering those.

best,
brian kc

 

[daniels]

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[Bamacues]

shut up and mind your business you big, fat, crimson elephant.

Hot Damn!!! College football season is almost here!!

Roll Tide!!

Now, everybody that owes something to somebody else, pay up!! That is the only way a person can do business. You give your word, you stand by your word.

Joe

 

[Kot_Bigemot]

Let me say this again as clear as possible.. If I stole my mothers card and made illegal purchases with it, I would be facing legal charges(which im not)... Ive never stole anything in my life and I sure as hell didn't start with these petty items.. I just spoke with wadds for the first time since this incident and weve agreed im gonna send him a cue for his losses.. Im gonna be in contact with blackboar owner so we can figure out how to straighten this issue out.. Unfortunately after this incident I have no desire to continue selling my cues here, due to the handful of ppl that I would consider to be forum trolls who act as judges with little or no real evidence.. I understand for some ppl this is there life but for me it was just a hobby which i no longer enjoy..

Oh sure. People are waiting in line to buy your cues. Most of them are willing to ship their cues/money to you first, pay them later....

 

[Celophanewrap]

Let me say this again as clear as possible.. If I stole my mothers card and made illegal purchases with it, I would be facing legal charges(which im not)... Ive never stole anything in my life and I sure as hell didn't start with these petty items.. I just spoke with wadds for the first time since this incident and weve agreed im gonna send him a cue for his losses.. Im gonna be in contact with blackboar owner so we can figure out how to straighten this issue out.. Unfortunately after this incident I have no desire to continue selling my cues here, due to the handful of ppl that I would consider to be forum trolls who act as judges with little or no real evidence.. I understand for some ppl this is there life but for me it was just a hobby which i no longer enjoy..

Having worked in this field for some time, in my experience I can say that it's pretty unlikely that any District Attorney or City Attorney would pursue criminal charges for a son using moms credit card, especially for such a small amount. If several thousand dollars had been spent and the kid had actually signed a credit voucher that's different, but a family dispute for $100? Not really worth their time, at the very worst I can see the offspring getting a ticket that doesn't require a court appearance. Regardless of where any payment came from, it would seem to be in agreement that it came from the daniels entity. The whole credit card fiasco, if there was one, is a different matter between daniels and mom.
Mr. Daniels says NSA has been been paid, if that's the case it would draw this dispute to a close.
What does NSA say?

 

[Kickin' Chicken]

Let me say this again as clear as possible.. If I stole my mothers card and made illegal purchases with it, I would be facing legal charges(which im not)... Ive never stole anything in my life and I sure as hell didn't start with these petty items.. I just spoke with wadds for the first time since this incident and weve agreed im gonna send him a cue for his losses.. Im gonna be in contact with blackboar owner so we can figure out how to straighten this issue out.. Unfortunately after this incident I have no desire to continue selling my cues here, due to the handful of ppl that I would consider to be forum trolls who act as judges with little or no real evidence.. I understand for some ppl this is there life but for me it was just a hobby which i no longer enjoy..

don't let the virtual door hit you in your thieving ass.

and let me say this again as clear as possible:

you received a case and the seller has not been paid.

why on earth would you now be looking to "be in contact with blackboar owner so we can figure out how to straighten this issue out"?

so you can take him off for $20 with his generous offer? lol

you are pathetic.

here's who you can look to "be in contact with" "so we can figure out how to straighten this issue out":

His name is nsafellow. He sent you a case and has nothing to show for it.

Only a flat-out weasel would take another man's $20 to pay his own debt.

Classless Jerk.

best,
brian kc

 

[daniels]

The "kangaroo court" wouldn't of given you a thought if you weren't out there porking people just to make a few bucks.
Selling nsafellow's case on Ebay was a real lowlife move, so just pay what you owe.
Most of the people I've known from Northern California are pretty cool, but you are a real bottom feeder.[/QUOTE

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[Kickin' Chicken]

Hot Damn!!! College football season is almost here!!

Roll Tide!!

Now, everybody that owes something to somebody else, pay up!! That is the only way a person can do business. You give your word, you stand by your word.

Joe

my daddy was from Dothan.

def have a soft spot for the crimson tide.

and, yes, Joe, for many, their word is their bond. and then there's guys like daniels.

best,
brian kc

 

[Celophanewrap]

why was selling the case "a real lowlife move"? I didn't sell it because I was in the middle of a scam.. I didn't like the case so I sold it, It was my ****ing case to sell.. Some ppl are blind as bats, why is it so hard for ppl to understand what happened in this situation.. I guess 4 always equals 2+2 on here

There seems to be some question as to whether or not the case was paid for. if was not paid for then it was not your case to sell. You acknowledge that the transaction was in dispute as indicated by your exchange of emails and PM's with NSA. You also indicate that NSA has been paid in full and the transaction is complete.
When did you pay him with funds that were NOT rescinded? and when did you sell the case?

 

[daniels]

don't let the virtual door hit you in your thieving ass.

and let me say this again as clear as possible:

you received a case and the seller has not been paid.

why on earth would you now be looking to "be in contact with blackboar owner so we can figure out how to straighten this issue out"?

so you can take him off for $20 with his generous offer? lol

you are pathetic.

here's who you can look to "be in contact with" "so we can figure out how to straighten this issue out":

His name is nsafellow. He sent you a case and has nothing to show for it.

Only a flat-out weasel would take another man's $20 to pay his own debt.

Classless Jerk.

best,
brian kc

az's own judge judy - Today, 10:19 AM

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dude yr ****ing funny!! the way u jump to conclusions is second to none.. Ive spoke with nsafellow on the phone many times and honestly I don't like him.. Im not planning on sending him any money I was thinking about sending him something for compensation.. Seeing as how im sure he wont give me his address I figured blackboar owner could be the middle man... U know who u remind me of? judge judy on day time tv, she passes judgement quickly and swiftly with her personal opinion..
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dude yr ****ing funny!! the way u jump to conclusions is second to none.. Ive spoke with nsafellow on the phone many times and honestly I don't like him.. Im not planning on sending him any money I was thinking about sending him something for compensation.. Seeing as how im sure he wont give me his address I figured blackboar owner could be the middle man... U know who u remind me off? judge judy on day time tv, she passes judgement quickly and swiftly with her personal opinion.. oh don't forget to post this thanks

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[nsafellow]

yes nsafellow got his money

no i didn't steal a credit card( or id most definitely be facing criminal charges most likely from her)

Lets clear that one up...he paid and then it was taken away by the credit card company when when the charge was disputed.......now I am out the money and the case.....

 

[Kickin' Chicken]

just rec'd another boring pm from the thief:

az's own judge judy - Today, 01:19 PM

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dude yr ****ing funny!! the way u jump to conclusions is second to none.. Ive spoke with nsafellow on the phone many times and honestly I don't like him.. Im not planning on sending him any money I was thinking about sending him something for compensation.. Seeing as how im sure he wont give me his address I figured blackboar owner could be the middle man... U know who u remind me off? judge judy on day time tv, she passes judgement quickly and swiftly with her personal opinion.. oh don't forget to post this thanks

comparing me to judge judy, I will take that as high praise.

one of my all time favorite quotes comes from her and it applies perfectly to you and this deal:

"Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining"

as far as your not liking nsafellow, you don't have to like him - just effing pay him.

and regarding your "not planning on sending him any money I was thinking about sending him something for compensation", besides this being in direct conflict with your earlier statement, a few posts ago, that you paid him, so now what do you have in mind? Gonna send him some Pizza Hut coupons?

your deal with him involves a case for *money*.

Your unilateral decision hinting at another form of payment than what was originally agreed upon, continues to paint you as a p.o.s.

best,
judge judy

 

[daniels]

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[Black-Balled]

"comparing me to judge judy, I will take that as high praise.

one of my all time favorite quotes"

Seeing as how yr a huge judge judy fan things are making a lot more sense now!!

We will all be happy when NSA says he's been paid.

And my promise to edit my prior post re: the google search on

Robert Daniels Lake Tahoe CA

will be kept, once NSA says he's been paid.

 

[cuesblues]

why was selling the case "a real lowlife move"? I didn't sell it because I was in the middle of a scam.. I didn't like the case so I sold it, It was my ****ing case to sell.. Some ppl are blind as bats, why is it so hard for ppl to understand what happened in this situation.. I guess 4 always equals 2+2 on here

If you don't like the AZ "judges & jury", you're going to love the AZ psychologists.
Just pay the people you owe and make this nonsense go away.
Nobody wants to hears that you paid, when you are trying to wheel & deal on AZ with no money and mommy's credit card.
Mommy got mad at you and your so-called "hobby" went down in flames over a couple of hundred bucks.
Way to go, and by the way, congress allows GAAP accounting methods, so 2 + 2 does not have to equal 4.

 

[nsafellow]

Mr daniels

It is all pretty simple here

You bought the case using your mothers card.
I shipped you the case. (I paid for shipping)
You received the case.
You sold the case and have money in your pocket.
Credit card company reversed the payment and charged me $20 for doing it
I am out the $80 for the case the shipping fees and the $20 fee that the credit card company charges for chargebacks. (making me look like I did something wrong by charging me the chargeback fee)

you have the case (which you sold) and money from sale

I have no case no money and had to pay $20 chargeback fee

You need to realize that this is not about the money but your inability to see that you do indeed owe the money. You have admitted it to me in you pms that you sent me many times.

Do you honestly think you are right and I am wrong. I would love to have it explained to me in a manner that I can understand.

It is your turn Mr daniels

 

[nsafellow]

"dude yr ****ing funny!! the way u jump to conclusions is second to none.. Ive spoke with nsafellow on the phone many times and honestly I don't like him.. Im not planning on sending him any money I was thinking about sending him something for compensation.. Seeing as how im sure he wont give me his address I figured blackboar owner could be the middle man..."



Where did this come from, I have been nothing but a gentleman about this with Mr daniels....I have spoken to Mr Daniels a few times and they have all been easy going trying to figure out what was going on with the funds being removed. About how I just needed wait and all would work out as he stated in his pms to me.

I waited and it did not work out. I gave you every chance to take care of this and you walked away from it.

I dont need a middle man....use your paypal and take care of it....simple as that

 

[daniels]

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[aquaurchin99]

no jimmy I know yr not wrong, but I also know im not a thief and that theres a 3rd party not here, that's to blame... As I see, its come down to a moral issue here about rite and wrong.. I understand that the rite thing to do is pay u the money,. the fact u are out, due to a card dispute that's directed toward me is unfair to u.. Theres a couple factors that's holding me back from paying u.. Someone elses retarded post about me being broke and using my mothers card is Ludacris, that was a one time thing 6 months ago.. ive spent over 5gs in the past few months buying cues and I have probably 10 grand worth of cues sitting at my house.. All these ppl passing false judgement and making rude comments is honestly not getting u any closer to yr 80 bucks

God damn!! It's 80 freaking bucks man.