Job help for Mike Davis: A top USA pro Leaving the pro tour

There's a ton of work to be had out here in the Mid-west. About ever career opportunity you could want, low standard of living, and a lot of pool players to pay for lessons in one way or another.

Best of luck!
 
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Email Mike direct at ironmikedavis@gmail.com

"Endorsement from Charlie Williams: My longtime tour buddy "Iron" Mike Davis is looking to leave the tour and leave the life of a professional pool player. He wants a career change and willing to move, so anyone that has connections in hiring a good man please message him or me. I've known Mike since I was 18 years old in Virginia where we grew up playing pool. He was a really good guy then, and years later still has not changed a bit. He has a disciplined work ethic, great attitude, highly intelligent, works out at the gym and strong as an ox and has a great temperament (he's 6'2 & 225lbs and couldve thrown lots of trouble making poolplayers out the window but always managed to restrain himself ) . He is also a great teammate and always has something good to say. And he is super honest and trustworthy, a type of guy who you can leave a million dollars around and know that not one dollar would be missing. He was a star basketball player in school, joined the Army after HS, has managed poolrooms, did construction, taught players pool, and of course became a top pro billiards player winning the Reno Open, Silver Medalist at the World 14.1, and played on the winning USA Mosconi Cup Team and has been a staple on the pro tour scene. Always a pleasure to play against and a complete gentlemen, my favorite times with Mike has always been off table playing tennis, going to the gym, sharing a meal or movies, and having him torture me at racquetball. I can without a doubt vouch that he is easily one of the most likable and well respected players on tour. Never heard one bad word about him in my life(that says alot in the pool world Lol). I hate to see such a great ally of Dragon Promotions go and also lose such a good friend on tour, but I wish him all the best of success in Life. Every ending is the start of a new beginning. Thanks friends for your help , and thanks Mike for the years on tour together."
Isn't he almost 40 years old. I have to seriously doubt his actually wanting a real job. He needs to stay with what he knows and likes, pool and find his niche there. Maybe work towards getting himself a small pool room. You would be surprised how well you can do with a small pool room, low overhead and no partners. You won't get rich but you will be happy and you can play pool as well. Look at guys like Nick Varner. The reality is, he is a pool player and that is what he will be happiest doing. Anything else will always be temporary as he will be wanting to get back to pool. That's my honest advice.
 
Isn't he almost 40 years old. I have to seriously doubt his actually wanting a real job. He needs to stay with what he knows and likes, pool and find his niche there. Maybe work towards getting himself a small pool room. You would be surprised how well you can do with a small pool room, low overhead and no partners. You won't get rich but you will be happy and you can play pool as well. Look at guys like Nick Varner. The reality is, he is a pool player and that is what he will be happiest doing. Anything else will always be temporary as he will be wanting to get back to pool. That's my honest advice.

Your opinion... no basis in reality.

There are plenty of folks who have left the pool world for careers too.
 
Im not real sure about the last 1-2 years but before that for a loooooooooooong time I'd say Mike put in more miles here in the USA going from tourny to tourny than anyone else..

Its gonna be hard to go Cold Turkey.
 
I guess the pro tour he'd be quitting is the action pool tour, I'll miss seeing him there and hope he continues playing and teaching. He always struck me as a decent guy and I it's a shame his talent
can't be turned into cash.

Although he has job placement options mentioned elsewhere in the thread, it's good
that he (or CW) is reaching out to the pool community. Mike is qualified for a lot of stuff,
but many good jobs get landed based on these seemingly random connections.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if he gets a good job that pays decent and makes him happy,
just from these posts reaching the right set of eyeballs.

Good luck sir!
 
I talked to an MD yesterday about the job situation here in the Midwest. What it boils down to is there are a lot of jobs, but they don't pay much. For example McD's telling their employees to get a second job is the worst I've heard of. This person said there are a lot of openings in the medical field that only take minimal training. There are lots of good paying technical/technician jobs available. Hospitals also need maintenance and security people. Just an idea.
 
Your opinion... no basis in reality.

There are plenty of folks who have left the pool world for careers too.

Of course it is based in reality. There is not a counselor that will not tell you that you need to do what you would like to do. Mike knows and likes pool and he is good at it. You think he will be happy selling tires? You have greatest chance of success doing what you like. Did you ever give a job to a pool player? I have many times. Their main background and life experience is doing what they like to do , when they like to do it. All they need to learn is how to make a living at it. And by the way, why should he have to leave pool if it is what he likes? I doubt he really wants to quit.
 
I didn't see Mike's education level stated.

Potential employers typically want to know if the person looking to be hired can talk, comprehend, read and write at a H.S. level or higher.
 
I wish Mike well in the job hunt. I met him and played him in a bar in Gulfport, FL and he is a super nice guy. Even though he's about 40 yo if he has no skills I would advise him to go school, if only for a year. most states an LPN is only 1 year and you will make 30k to 45k depending where you work and how much overtime you want. You will have a job for the rest of your life. There are many other 1 year schools that will give you a trade that pays decent too. Good Luck Mike. Johnnyt
 
Of course it is based in reality. There is not a counselor that will not tell you that you need to do what you would like to do. Mike knows and likes pool and he is good at it. You think he will be happy selling tires? You have greatest chance of success doing what you like. Did you ever give a job to a pool player? I have many times. Their main background and life experience is doing what they like to do , when they like to do it. All they need to learn is how to make a living at it. And by the way, why should he have to leave pool if it is what he likes? I doubt he really wants to quit.

There is not a counselor out there that would advise one to pursue something that won't result in enough income to support basic need.

At some point, need replaces want. Sad, but true.

A road agent who spent his laast few years with us said to me: some people choose to work for a living, some people choose to play.

Some people give up one for the other- permanently- and your statement: "...seriously doubt his actually wanting a real job." was unnecessary and has no relevance outside of between your ears. To potentially sabotage the Man's efforts to begin a career is a wrong.
 
I wish Mike well in the job hunt. I met him and played him in a bar in Gulfport, FL and he is a super nice guy. Even though he's about 40 yo if he has no skills I would advise him to go school, if only for a year. most states an LPN is only 1 year and you will make 30k to 45k depending where you work and how much overtime you want. You will have a job for the rest of your life. There are many other 1 year schools that will give you a trade that pays decent too. Good Luck Mike. Johnnyt

That is actually very good advice. I work with insurances and loss control and I believe a buzz is building re:the types of people that are hired to perform nursing/ elderly care, in the short/ medium term future.

It is a pretty big issue- $ wise- for employers in the healthcare industry that the people that are caring for others aren't physically capable of doing so. Go to a hospice and see how many employees there are tha probably would have a 50/50 shot at hurting themselves while helping a resident up off the floor. How many years do these employees go without getting hurt?

No answer needed. They all get hurt and it is workers comp, so the employer is paying 100% for the care.

There is surely the issue of discrimination that must be addressed, as it is hard to argue that the physical demands of the position preclude old/ fat/ weak people from being hired...coz they are now doing the work.

Anywy, sorry for the keyboard poo. Nursing/ bookkeeping/ sales...all careers that offer decent salaries with small education investments.
 
If a guy is smart-a quick learner and willing to work, education should not matter. He should move up fast and many places like a bit of maturity. Give him a chance- u can always fire him
 
There is not a counselor out there that would advise one to pursue something that won't result in enough income to support basic need.

At some point, need replaces want. Sad, but true.

A road agent who spent his laast few years with us said to me: some people choose to work for a living, some people choose to play.

Some people give up one for the other- permanently- and your statement: "...seriously doubt his actually wanting a real job." was unnecessary and has no relevance outside of between your ears. To potentially sabotage the Man's efforts to begin a career is a wrong.

I didn't mean he is too lazy to get a job. In fact what he is doing is harder work then most jobs he would ever get. I mean after all these years he should at least attempt to stick close to what he knows and likes but find a niche where he can make a living. Look at a guy like Scott Lee or Mike Massey. They have found their spots in pool. The worst place in pool is as a player trying to make money from prize funds. The industry as a whole though can be very good.

I often play a mental game with myself and look at a business or job and say to myself, "would I want to do that?" The answer is almost always no no matter how much money I could make. Most working people spend their lives at jobs they hate.Often due to having a lot of responsibilities early on (Family when they are young) and just find themselves in a trap. If someone has the freedom to at least try to choose what they would like to do they should.

Did you ever see the movie Grease? There is a character in the movie named Sonny played by Michael Tucci. Check out his bio. He went from being a district attorney in New York to being an actor. He is currently teaching and coaching Introduction to Fine Arts and Theater Arts, he never practiced law again. You have to be happy in what you do.
Anyone who has a job or business they truly love is blessed because so few do.
 
I didn't mean he is too lazy to get a job. In fact what he is doing is harder work then most jobs he would ever get. I mean after all these years he should at least attempt to stick close to what he knows and likes but find a niche where he can make a living. Look at a guy like Scott Lee or Mike Massey. They have found their spots in pool. The worst place in pool is as a player trying to make money from prize funds. The industry as a whole though can be very good.

I often play a mental game with myself and look at a business or job and say to myself, "would I want to do that?" The answer is almost always no no matter how much money I could make. Most working people spend their lives at jobs they hate.Often due to having a lot of responsibilities early on (Family when they are young) and just find themselves in a trap. If someone has the freedom to at least try to choose what they would like to do they should.

Did you ever see the movie Grease? There is a character in the movie named Sonny played by Michael Tucci. Check out his bio. He went from being a district attorney in New York to being an actor. He is currently teaching and coaching Introduction to Fine Arts and Theater Arts, he never practiced law again. You have to be happy in what you do.
Anyone who has a job or business they truly love is blessed because so few do.

Thanks for the clarification. I agree with pretty much everything in this post...and I had to suffer through some of Grease night before last. House full of girls, ya know. That near-interesting nugget woulda been helpful.
 
I agree with the post, below. There is a wide cross section of ppl on AZB, from many different industries. If we had a better idea of what Mike would like to do, then it would be easier to line something up for him.

Mike is, without a doubt, one of the good guys in Pool. I always enjoy running into him and chatting. I don't think I've ever heard a bad word about Mike and I'll miss seeing him at various Pool tournaments.


Eric

It might help if Mike laid out what type of field/work he was looking to get into, what his strengths are, etc. then have a resume to send out by request. (I know he didn't start this thread, so maybe he wouldn't even want his career change pursuit to be so public, but it would be a good way to reach out to all pool world contacts and beyond; ex-military can be attractive prospects to ex-military).
 
tough times

In general, it seems that people in public sector jobs are better off these days than those in the private sector; I'm not sure how much age is a factor to start looking into jobs such as law enforcement, fireman, or just any public serving job; if I was really desperate for a salary, I would re-enlist in the military primarily to get some education in something like electronics. Again, I don't know how much the age factor limits one to these possibilities. I saw Mike Davis play in one of the West Coast tournaments recently, and I think he is a good person and I wish him good luck in finding a good job.
 
I know Mike. He is a good man who will be a great addition to any organization. But the sad part is that he is actually leaving pro pool because there is not a pro tour.


i like Mike lots and his dad. I hope he does well in what ever he pursues . i dont blame him, living on the grind is just too much to fade. lucky he has a choice. He will be back if something does happen. If not hope he does good and i wish him the best. Good guy.
 
North Dakota and the oil fields up there! Go get 'em Mike. You're perfect for these jobs, a big rugged guy who gets along well with people. If you can stand the long cold Winters you'll be fine. Just tell them Jay sent you! :thumbup:
 
I have always liked Mike, very nice guy and I hope whatever he decides to do works out for him.and I also hope that he still gets a chance to play in some events whenever possible. All the best Mike.
 
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