Measle ball, i HATE it

Straightpool_99

I see dead balls
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When the Aramith TV-Pro set first came out I was one of the first to buy it. This was the future and many enthusiasts at the club also brought measle cueballs with them in their case to the pool hall. It's been the standard ballset at most pool halls for many years now.

First impressions was that the cueball played "heavy", but that was to be expected, since most cueballs at pool halls have been worn down and therefore are lighter. Also I hated the colours but I thought I would get used to them over time and I have, but I dont like them. Even though I have played with these pool balls exclusively for many years now, I still feel that the cueball is not behaving "right". It's like a carom ball, no matter what you do to it, it wants to roll forward. It's not that I can't draw or anything like that, but the draw feels all wrong, and the stun shots especially feel wrong to me.

A couple of days ago a friend of mine invited me to play a game with a Brunswick Centennial set he purchased from the closed down pool hall where I used to play, and wow the good feeling was back, after all these years. It's strange that my mind could retain the feeling after all these years, but these were the pool balls I learned to play with. The cueball was plain white. It was not smaller or lighter it just behaved differently. Strangely when I look at a plain white cueball now, it looks smaller. It's some sort of optical illusion I think because I measured with the rack and it really isn't smaller.

I heard the new top of the line Aramith cueball is playing even "heavier" than the measle ball, I sure hope that is not the case. At the moment I'm practising with an old Joe Tucker aiming by the numbers cue ball, which acts closer to the Brunswick centennial balls than the measle one. And tomorrow I'm buying an Aramith plain white replacement cueball.

Anyone else feel the same way?
 
The measle ball has the Carom finish on it, so it will slide/spin in place a bit more. It is dead nuts in weight along with the rest of the Aramith balls, definitely not heavier. The blue circle cueball that comes with the Centennial set actually weighs more than the measle ball.
 
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When the Aramith TV-Pro set first came out I was one of the first to buy it. This was the future and many enthusiasts at the club also brought measle cueballs with them in their case to the pool hall. It's been the standard ballset at most pool halls for many years now.

First impressions was that the cueball played "heavy", but that was to be expected, since most cueballs at pool halls have been worn down and therefore are lighter. Also I hated the colours but I thought I would get used to them over time and I have, but I dont like them. Even though I have played with these pool balls exclusively for many years now, I still feel that the cueball is not behaving "right". It's like a carom ball, no matter what you do to it, it wants to roll forward. It's not that I can't draw or anything like that, but the draw feels all wrong, and the stun shots especially feel wrong to me.

A couple of days ago a friend of mine invited me to play a game with a Brunswick Centennial set he purchased from the closed down pool hall where I used to play, and wow the good feeling was back, after all these years. It's strange that my mind could retain the feeling after all these years, but these were the pool balls I learned to play with. The cueball was plain white. It was not smaller or lighter it just behaved differently. Strangely when I look at a plain white cueball now, it looks smaller. It's some sort of optical illusion I think because I measured with the rack and it really isn't smaller.

I heard the new top of the line Aramith cueball is playing even "heavier" than the measle ball, I sure hope that is not the case. At the moment I'm practising with an old Joe Tucker aiming by the numbers cue ball, which acts closer to the Brunswick centennial balls than the measle one. And tomorrow I'm buying an Aramith plain white replacement cueball.

Anyone else feel the same way?

And here I thought I was the only one. The spots don't bother me but the lifelessness does. It's not as bad as the big over sized bar box cue ball, but it's still sluggish as hell. I prefer my red circle cue ball by far.
 
Not personally, I really like the measles CB. To be honest, I don't find it troublesome to play with any standard CB. I guess I don't overthink it, I just play with whatever is used without too much thought.
 
I think the measles cue ball is the single best innovation in the game in about 20 years. It gives players, instructors and onlookers great information about how the cue ball was struck.

Obviously, if you don't like it, you are under no obligation to use it and can use whatever cue ball you please. If you compete, however, you will need to master use of the often-used measles cue ball.
 
And here I thought I was the only one. The spots don't bother me but the lifelessness does. It's not as bad as the big over sized bar box cue ball, but it's still sluggish as hell. I prefer my red circle cue ball by far.

Aramith's Red Circle Ball is the best, by far! I've found a few Valley's and Dynamo's that will feed the red circle ball through, with no problem. I will admit, however, I do prefer the measle ball on slower tables. Especially older tables with fuzzy cloth.
 
I thought the measles was heavier.. I weighed it and found it is the same weight as other cue balls. I read a description of the finish on cue balls and there is the difference. The measles ball has a somewhat slicker finish and won't draw as easily as others.

The secret is in your stroke. I know players that can do a full table draw on a measles ball with out trying. Practice and you can too....

One problem is that once you learn to draw the measles ball you will over draw the other cue balls...............

Kim
 
If you don't like the measle ball or the blue circle, try the red circle ball.

http://www.ozonebilliards.com/redcircuebal.html

The super aramith pro plays good too, but I prefer the red circle.

http://www.ozonebilliards.com/suarprocueba.html

Careful about this, though. The red circle is still considered by Aramith to be a "specialty" cue ball, always sold separately from ball sets. Granted, they are very popular because of the proliferation of short-rack rotation (the red circle is a favorite here, because it's a "zingy" cue ball that takes draw especially well).

But if you want to get used to cue balls, there's nothing like getting used to the cue ball that Aramith considers "matched" to the ball set itself. That's either the measles ball for the higher-end ball sets (except the Tournament set, which uses the black-logo'ed cue ball), or the red-logo'ed ball (not to be confused with the red circle -- the red logo is visually different), or the blue circle cue ball with the Brunswick Centennial sets.

My favorite cue ball? The blue circle cue ball that comes with the Brunswick Centennial sets. They are hard to find being sold all by themselves, but here's one vendor:

http://wsbilliardsupply.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=109

Hope this helps,
-Sean
 
The measle ball has the Carom finish on it, so it will slide/spin in place a bit more. It is dead nuts in weight along with the rest of the Aramith balls, definitely not heavier. The blue circle cueball that comes with the Centennial set actually weighs more than the measle ball.

Yet, the measle ball feels heavier, I don't get it! The carom finish must be the reason. I hate carom, allthough I am forcing myself to learn it for the benefit of being a well rounded player.
 
I hear of the different cue balls often and I guess I'm not that tuned in to really feel the difference.

I have a 7' diamond table at home and did an experiment once between the measle ball and my Aramith tournament cue ball. It was on simonis 860 cloth. I could regularly draw the measle ball 10 diamonds distance and the other cue ball? Virtually identical.

It wasn't the measle ball that was limiting my ability to draw the ball - it was me. It was in my head and after that experiment I just didn't care what cue ball was in front of me. Once I get the feel of the equipment, I just try to adjust to it.

You should try the same experiment, on the same equipment, at the same time. If you can draw one cue ball far more than the other, that would be interesting.
 
I've yet to play with one but don't think I'd like the spots. I suppose one can get used to them.
 
I thought the measles was heavier.. I weighed it and found it is the same weight as other cue balls. I read a description of the finish on cue balls and there is the difference. The measles ball has a somewhat slicker finish and won't draw as easily as others.

The secret is in your stroke. I know players that can do a full table draw on a measles ball with out trying. Practice and you can too....

One problem is that once you learn to draw the measles ball you will over draw the other cue balls...............

Kim

Does the slicker/carom finish eventually wear off? If so, how long does it take? Would it then react more like a ball that's matched to the set of Super Aramith Pros?
 
Does the slicker/carom finish eventually wear off? If so, how long does it take? Would it then react more like a ball that's matched to the set of Super Aramith Pros?

No. It is in the method that they grind the ball to finish it off. If you wear it down enough to lose that, you'd have long needed a cue ball
 
I think the measle ball was a failure.

The red dots didn't bother me at all.....
...until they started wearing flat...
...at first I thought it was the result of phenolic break tips....
...but then I saw a video of a carom ball coming to rest on a flat spot.
(the video has been taken down)

Most of the other complaints I've heard about them are what happens
when you put any new ball with old ones.....
..they need breaking in
 
I like the real Measle cue ball. Don't buy the fake cheap ones.
The one I used played like it was light and easy to move around.
Easy to draw and put spin on it.


The red circles are good but don't play all the same.
Don't get red circle and red dot mixed up.

Some red dot cue balls feel heavy.
 
I suspect this comes down to weight or the individual ball more than anything else. My SAPs were an older set that came with a red logo as standard - I absolutely detest the thing - it was a real effort to draw, especially over distance. Switched it to a measles ball and it pings around with ease.

If your ball is playing heavy, it probably IS heavy. But I await of plethora of alternative theories with interest, as ever...
 
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