Mosconi Updates Please

flash5153 said:
I like Earles idea of taking away the side pockets. I wonder what that would be like to play on?? I think it would be OK.
I can see the Strickland line of tables coming!!
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I love it how the Americans continually try to create new gaffe games to be introduced as some kind of standard. Like no side pockets. Or races to 100, etc. the world got smaller for the USA. They are no longer the dominant force. That's why no American can win an event with an international field, which is only defined as a field with half the players from Europe and Asia (which must contain Chinese, Taiwanese and Japanese players). And yes, the US open is not an international event. Can't be considered a major without full representation from those countries.
 
NYC cue dude said:
I love it how the Americans continually try to create new gaffe games to be introduced as some kind of standard. Like no side pockets. Or races to 100, etc. the world got smaller for the USA. They are no longer the dominant force. That's why no American can win an event with an international field, which is only defined as a field with half the players from Europe and Asia (which must contain Chinese, Taiwanese and Japanese players). And yes, the US open is not an international event. Can't be considered a major without full representation from those countries.
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So playing a long race is a gaffe.

Because a race to six really shows who the best player is.

Also this whole Euros are the best stuff is hilarious considering the Philippines could field two or three teams that would have the Euros 2-1 dogs or worse.
 
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Kris_b1104 said:
Relying on Hatch and Morris to stop Europe from winning this entire thing is not so reliable...especially being the worst two players on the US team going up against the two best players on the team.
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If Hatch and Morris can get rolling they are a tough team to beat...look at the 2010 MC. They are both lefty's and they play about the same style...All they have to do is get some momentum building and its possible they can keep us in it another round.
 
JCIN said:
The Euros are exponentially more talented at winning team based races to six.

Not one of them wouldn't be a twenty game underdog to SVB in a race to 100. Not one of them would play Johnny even ten or nine ball. The US side has many problems. Talent for the actually playing the game is not one of them.

The problem with the US is not talent. It is that they have zero leadership and are stuck with the most toxic player ever put on any team in any sport. Personally I am glad the Euro's smoked them the way have. It shines a spotlight on how screwed up US pool is. Maybe some things can be changed.
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News Flash ... Their not playing races to 100 they are playing short sets that require you to be sharp from the get go ,, I would say the Eruo's get bored in a race to 100 gimmick they they are not geared to play ,,,

The leadership has nothing to do with it

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JCIN said:
So playing a long race is a gaffe.

Because a race to six really shows who the best player is.
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6 is short. A race to 11 in traditional tournament format forces players to play perfect or go home. The world 9 ball has it right, too, with alternate break so today's mechanics can't cheat themselves to a title.
 
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Just to ensure I understand the format, if Team Euro wins this match, then that is THE END of the Mosconi Cup?
 
one stroke said:
News Flash ... Their not playing races to 100 they are playing short sets that require you to be sharp from the get go ,, I would say the Eruo's get bored in a race to 100 gimmick they they are not geared to play ,,,

The leadership has nothing to do with it

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How many Team USA players have you talked to face to face this week about whats going on?

I will bet its less than me. But you probably know more about whats going on.
 
one stroke said:
News Flash ... Their not playing races to 100 they are playing short sets that require you to be sharp from the get go ,, I would say the Eruo's get bored in a race to 100 gimmick they they are not geared to play ,,,

The leadership has nothing to do with it

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Race to 6 is affected by lucky rolls WAY more than a longer race. Which is why every pro player would rather play races to 11 or 15 in pro tournaments. Listen to the commentary by players during matches, MANY times I have heard them say races to 7 and even 9 are a bit short to really show the best player.

Which is why they play long races or multiple long sets in TAR. At the end, there is no doubt who played best. You can get a roll or two and get up a few games, you won't be living by your luck over 25+ games and the better player will catch up.

I've seen crappy players want to gamble but all they want to do is play races to 2 or 3 so they can win by making a 9 on the break or get a lucky safe when they miss and that's the set.
 
Rackemep said:
If Hatch and Morris can get rolling they are a tough team to beat...look at the 2010 MC. They are both lefty's and they play about the same style...All they have to do is get some momentum building and its possible they can keep us in it another round.
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They've been the laziest so far as position play is concerned, while Feijen and Immonen have been playing near perfect pool, would you really bet your chips on them? :eek:

They're rolling along well right now but they'll soon run out of adrenaline as evident of the past couple days.
 
hang-the-9 said:
Race to 6 is affected by lucky rolls WAY more than a longer race. Which is why every pro player would rather play races to 11 or 15 in pro tournaments. Listen to the commentary by players during matches, MANY times I have heard them say races to 7 and even 9 are a bit short to really show the best player.

Which is why they play long races or multiple long sets in TAR. At the end, there is no doubt who played best. You can get a roll or two and get up a few games, you won't be living by your luck over 25+ games and the better player will catch up.

I've seen crappy players want to gamble but all they want to do is play races to 2 or 3 so they can win by making a 9 on the break or get a lucky safe when they miss and that's the set.
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It has to be appealing for the viewers. Multiple races to 25+ isn't the way to go.
 
JCIN said:
How many Team USA players have you talked to face to face this week about whats going on?

I will bet its less than me. But you probably know more about whats going on.
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I don't need to talk to any of them they were underdogs going in ,,,


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