Willie Mosconi Cue Ball

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I got a present from a friend of mine who is into high end sports collectibles. Its a cue ball in a glass case with wooden framing signed by Willie Mosconi.
He knows me for years and that i love straight pool and was going to buy it off from him but i was in a tight situation and told him to hold it though. A few months later i found a bunch of old football cards that were some rookie cards and whatnot and i didnt have the time to mess with them, but i gave them to him and told him to make some gas money with them and he laughed and said that they arent worth much but thanks for the thought.

So anyway, he came in a few days ago and handed me a big bag and said Merry Christmas Tony. I looked at him and looked inside and i almost fell on the floor, it was the Willie cue ball.
He said he has the photo on him signing the ball but he will have to look for it, i told him dont bother, this thing aint going no where unless someone robs it off me, lol.

So i bring it home and my wife who has a decent sized curio cabinet with all her figurines and all crystal stuff and whatnot. Anyway, she took one look at it and said its going right into the cabinet, i said thats all your stuff in there and she said i know much this means to you and i know who Willie is from all the books and videos youre always watching about him, lol.

Anyway, when i have some time i will take a photo and put it up in this thread. it was probably one of the best material presents i have ever received.
 
Nice your lucky your wife understands how important that is to you and who willie was,most wives wouldn't and think it's just an old pool ball


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Lou Figueroa stole a CB from Willie Mosconi during an exhibition. I don't think he has any provenance, but might have a photo of Willie on all fours looking under the table at the ball return tracks cussing his brains out, wondering where it went.

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I got a present from a friend of mine who is into high end sports collectibles. Its a cue ball in a glass case with wooden framing signed by Willie Mosconi.
He knows me for years and that i love straight pool and was going to buy it off from him but i was in a tight situation and told him to hold it though. A few months later i found a bunch of old football cards that were some rookie cards and whatnot and i didnt have the time to mess with them, but i gave them to him and told him to make some gas money with them and he laughed and said that they arent worth much but thanks for the thought.

So anyway, he came in a few days ago and handed me a big bag and said Merry Christmas Tony. I looked at him and looked inside and i almost fell on the floor, it was the Willie cue ball.
He said he has the photo on him signing the ball but he will have to look for it, i told him dont bother, this thing aint going no where unless someone robs it off me, lol.

So i bring it home and my wife who has a decent sized curio cabinet with all her figurines and all crystal stuff and whatnot. Anyway, she took one look at it and said its going right into the cabinet, i said thats all your stuff in there and she said i know much this means to you and i know who Willie is from all the books and videos youre always watching about him, lol.

Anyway, when i have some time i will take a photo and put it up in this thread. it was probably one of the best material presents i have ever received.


I have a Willie Mosconi cue ball too.

(insert flashback music).

I think I got interested in pool right around 1968 or '69. A friend and I went to a bowling alley with his dad and mom one weekend and while they bowled, we discovered the pool room that was part of the bowling alley. My family lived in San Francisco, down by the Cow Palace, and bowling alleys with pool rooms in them were a pretty common setup back then, around there. In fact, just a short walk away from our house was Castle Lanes, where, very early on in life, I learned courtesy of a summer bowling league, that I had absolutely no talent for that game.

But occasionally I'd wander into the pool room there. It had perhaps nine or so old Brunswicks and I'd watch all these old guys bat the balls around. They seemed to favor some odd game where it only mattered if you made a ball in one particular pocket, or perhaps the other. I wouldn't decipher what they doing until much later on in life... Not long after my buddy and I became proud owners of our very own personal pool cues, I learned that Willie Mosconi would be making his annual appearance at Castle Lanes. This was huge. I had watched "The Hustler" several times by now and knew the lore.

So the day of the exhibition, I get out of school early and zoom down to Castle Lanes to get a front row seat. They had recovered the front table and all the old guys already had their favored perches secured. Nonetheless, I squeezed in. Then "he" walked into the pool room. Mosconi was nattily dressed in sports coat and tie. He'd come into the room with a box of balls and a luggage-style cue case. His hair was pure white and he always had this very elegant, tailored look about him. To warm up, he'd rack all fifteen balls, separate the head ball and set up a break shot off to the left of the rack. The break shots he seemed to favor were always a little steeper than I would have thought comfortable, but they certainly didn't slow him up.

He'd run off two racks and then be done, ready to play his opponent, 150 points of 14.1. Depending on whom he was playing, he'd often kick into the back of the stack and play the head ball two rails into the side, just to give his opponent the chance at a running start. He'd always run at least a 100 and I saw him go 150 and out twice. If he had missed somewhere along the way and got out running a 50, or something like that, he'd turn to the crowd and ask, "Would you like to see a 100 ball run?" And we'd all go, "Well, yes." And he'd keep shooting and always get the 100. Then he'd shoot some trick shots, including some pretty nifty masses, and then hang around and talk and sign autographs. (It's the only autograph I have ever asked for in my life.)

Perhaps the last time I saw him was towards the late 70s, like maybe 1976, at an appearance in downtown San Francisco at a walk-up bowling alley named, appropriately enough, Downtown Bowl. He did the usual exhibition that I had seen several times before and it was still fascinating. Particularly, as I've mentioned before, because of the way his cue ball behaved. It was extraordinary how it would muscle into the balls and keep diving into them again and again until it had plowed through them all and come out the other side of the cluster or stack, totally unscathed.

So after his exhibition he's standing around, leaning against the table and talking to all the old timers and they're asking all the usual, "Did you ever play...?" "What'd you think of so and so's game?" and I'm trying to get closer to listen in on all this and I'm right by the side pocket of the table he's just finished his exhibition on and I look down and there it is.

Right there, at the bottom of the side pocket, is Mosconi's Cue Ball.

The blue circle on it is staring right back up at me and somehow, it was challenging me. Everyone is focused on Mosconi. No one is looking at me. I stare back into the abyss and realize I have but one moment to make a critical, and yes, criminal, decision. I look down into the pocket and I swear, Mosconi's Cue Ball is virtually howling with laughter at me. I quickly seize the little sucker, muffling it as best I can, stuff it into the pocket of my coat, and dash down the stairs of the establishment scared to death that if Mosconi discovers His Cue Ball is missing, they'll lock down the whole bowling alley -- and perhaps even cordon off the entire downtown district -- until they find the missing orb.

Now, some 30 years later, I still feel bad about the larceny I committed in my callow youth. But it's done and I can't undo it and so Mosconi's Cue Ball now sits, somewhat more meekly and quietly, on my bookshelf of pool books. But I think it still knows it's Mosconi's Cue Ball and now, just every once in a while when I'm sitting at the computer writing about the trials and tribulations of my pool game, I occasionally hear a tiny little giggle coming from behind my back, from somewhere on my book case.

Lou Figueroa
 
I have a Willie Mosconi cue ball too.

(insert flashback music).

I think I got interested in pool right around 1968 or '69. A friend and I went to a bowling alley with his dad and mom one weekend and while they bowled, we discovered the pool room that was part of the bowling alley. My family lived in San Francisco, down by the Cow Palace, and bowling alleys with pool rooms in them were a pretty common setup back then, around there. In fact, just a short walk away from our house was Castle Lanes, where, very early on in life, I learned courtesy of a summer bowling league, that I had absolutely no talent for that game.

But occasionally I'd wander into the pool room there. It had perhaps nine or so old Brunswicks and I'd watch all these old guys bat the balls around. They seemed to favor some odd game where it only mattered if you made a ball in one particular pocket, or perhaps the other. I wouldn't decipher what they doing until much later on in life... Not long after my buddy and I became proud owners of our very own personal pool cues, I learned that Willie Mosconi would be making his annual appearance at Castle Lanes. This was huge. I had watched "The Hustler" several times by now and knew the lore.

So the day of the exhibition, I get out of school early and zoom down to Castle Lanes to get a front row seat. They had recovered the front table and all the old guys already had their favored perches secured. Nonetheless, I squeezed in. Then "he" walked into the pool room. Mosconi was nattily dressed in sports coat and tie. He'd come into the room with a box of balls and a luggage-style cue case. His hair was pure white and he always had this very elegant, tailored look about him. To warm up, he'd rack all fifteen balls, separate the head ball and set up a break shot off to the left of the rack. The break shots he seemed to favor were always a little steeper than I would have thought comfortable, but they certainly didn't slow him up.

He'd run off two racks and then be done, ready to play his opponent, 150 points of 14.1. Depending on whom he was playing, he'd often kick into the back of the stack and play the head ball two rails into the side, just to give his opponent the chance at a running start. He'd always run at least a 100 and I saw him go 150 and out twice. If he had missed somewhere along the way and got out running a 50, or something like that, he'd turn to the crowd and ask, "Would you like to see a 100 ball run?" And we'd all go, "Well, yes." And he'd keep shooting and always get the 100. Then he'd shoot some trick shots, including some pretty nifty masses, and then hang around and talk and sign autographs. (It's the only autograph I have ever asked for in my life.)

Perhaps the last time I saw him was towards the late 70s, like maybe 1976, at an appearance in downtown San Francisco at a walk-up bowling alley named, appropriately enough, Downtown Bowl. He did the usual exhibition that I had seen several times before and it was still fascinating. Particularly, as I've mentioned before, because of the way his cue ball behaved. It was extraordinary how it would muscle into the balls and keep diving into them again and again until it had plowed through them all and come out the other side of the cluster or stack, totally unscathed.

So after his exhibition he's standing around, leaning against the table and talking to all the old timers and they're asking all the usual, "Did you ever play...?" "What'd you think of so and so's game?" and I'm trying to get closer to listen in on all this and I'm right by the side pocket of the table he's just finished his exhibition on and I look down and there it is.

Right there, at the bottom of the side pocket, is Mosconi's Cue Ball.

The blue circle on it is staring right back up at me and somehow, it was challenging me. Everyone is focused on Mosconi. No one is looking at me. I stare back into the abyss and realize I have but one moment to make a critical, and yes, criminal, decision. I look down into the pocket and I swear, Mosconi's Cue Ball is virtually howling with laughter at me. I quickly seize the little sucker, muffling it as best I can, stuff it into the pocket of my coat, and dash down the stairs of the establishment scared to death that if Mosconi discovers His Cue Ball is missing, they'll lock down the whole bowling alley -- and perhaps even cordon off the entire downtown district -- until they find the missing orb.

Now, some 30 years later, I still feel bad about the larceny I committed in my callow youth. But it's done and I can't undo it and so Mosconi's Cue Ball now sits, somewhat more meekly and quietly, on my bookshelf of pool books. But I think it still knows it's Mosconi's Cue Ball and now, just every once in a while when I'm sitting at the computer writing about the trials and tribulations of my pool game, I occasionally hear a tiny little giggle coming from behind my back, from somewhere on my book case.

Lou Figueroa

You stole from the greatest pool player ever, thats low
 
I think it still knows it's Mosconi's Cue Ball and now, just every once in a while when I'm sitting at the computer writing about the trials and tribulations of my pool game, I occasionally hear a tiny little giggle coming from behind my back, from somewhere on my book case.

Lou Figueroa

I also hear giggling coming from inanimate objects around my house but my psychiatrist says the medication should stop that soon.
 
I also hear giggling coming from inanimate objects around my house but my psychiatrist says the medication should stop that soon.


Don't know about you, Paulie, but I've been talking to CBs for years, usually in an attempt to tell them precisely what to do, or not to... my doctor says it's OK until they start talking back and explaining why they're punishing me.

Lou Figueroa
 
I got a present from a friend of mine who is into high end sports collectibles. Its a cue ball in a glass case with wooden framing signed by Willie Mosconi.
He knows me for years and that i love straight pool and was going to buy it off from him but i was in a tight situation and told him to hold it though. A few months later i found a bunch of old football cards that were some rookie cards and whatnot and i didnt have the time to mess with them, but i gave them to him and told him to make some gas money with them and he laughed and said that they arent worth much but thanks for the thought.

So anyway, he came in a few days ago and handed me a big bag and said Merry Christmas Tony. I looked at him and looked inside and i almost fell on the floor, it was the Willie cue ball.
He said he has the photo on him signing the ball but he will have to look for it, i told him dont bother, this thing aint going no where unless someone robs it off me, lol.

So i bring it home and my wife who has a decent sized curio cabinet with all her figurines and all crystal stuff and whatnot. Anyway, she took one look at it and said its going right into the cabinet, i said thats all your stuff in there and she said i know much this means to you and i know who Willie is from all the books and videos youre always watching about him, lol.

Anyway, when i have some time i will take a photo and put it up in this thread. it was probably one of the best material presents i have ever received.

That's a great gift from a friend. Did one of those rookie cards pay off? Enjoy!
 
As time went by and his game and income diminished he would sign boxes of balls from his home. I have a 1 ball with a photo of the ball signing and an LOA. It is and always will be the center piece of my meager but charished collections. RIP Mr. Mosconi
 
I think you need to do something extra special for that little woman in your life.

JoeyA
 
Unlike you, I have asked several players for autographs.

JAM mentioned that it pi$$ed them off to see things that folks have signed for free for fans and then the "fan" immediately takes it and sells it. I can see her point, as it is a "gift" that is given to the fan from the player, and the fan didnt pay for it.

But I have asked several players for autographs and Cool Cat Martin asked me not to sell it, and I assured him I would not (and I have not). But I have to share this Buddy Hall story. I asked Buddy to sign a ball for me, and he said, "Sure", and as he is signing it I tell him not to worry I wouldnt sell it.

In his Southern drawl, he says, "If can make any money with it, sell it and I sign another one for ya!" I giggle whenever I think about it.

Ken
 
Unlike you, I have asked several players for autographs.

JAM mentioned that it pi$$ed them off to see things that folks have signed for free for fans and then the "fan" immediately takes it and sells it. I can see her point, as it is a "gift" that is given to the fan from the player, and the fan didnt pay for it.

But I have asked several players for autographs and Cool Cat Martin asked me not to sell it, and I assured him I would not (and I have not). But I have to share this Buddy Hall story. I asked Buddy to sign a ball for me, and he said, "Sure", and as he is signing it I tell him not to worry I wouldnt sell it.

In his Southern drawl, he says, "If can make any money with it, sell it and I sign another one for ya!" I giggle whenever I think about it.

Ken


I think I surprised Ray Martin when I pulled out my hardcover 1st edition of "The 99 Critical Shots in Pool" and asked him to sign it.

Lou Figueroa
not sellin'
that one
 
Mosconi.

Great stories ----
I am a bit old school and I wonder if the new Gen. Realize how great
W.M was.
Anyway thanks for the stories.
MCP.
 
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Don't know about you, Paulie, but I've been talking to CBs for years, usually in an attempt to tell them precisely what to do, or not to... my doctor says it's OK until they start talking back and explaining why they're punishing me.

Lou Figueroa

I remember you telling about that story with glomming the cue ball, i thought it was funny as hell.
McGoorty had a story in his book about a guy that used to talk to billiard balls when he thought no one was looking, when he missed the shot he would pick up the balls and talk to them and crack them together to get them to listen.
You didnt go to that extreme, did you ?? :eek::grin-square:
 
I remember you telling about that story with glomming the cue ball, i thought it was funny as hell.
McGoorty had a story in his book about a guy that used to talk to billiard balls when he thought no one was looking, when he missed the shot he would pick up the balls and talk to them and crack them together to get them to listen.
You didnt go to that extreme, did you ?? :eek::grin-square:


Oh yeah, I remember that story in "McGoorty" too. I don't go that far.

Which reminds me of something that happened when I was in SC visiting Grady several years ago at his room in Lexington. The second day I was there a fellow came in and apologized to Grady for something that had happened the night before. I'm not sure, but I think it involved the breakage of a custom cue.

Anywhos, all is forgiven and forgotten and the fellow starts telling the story of another "incident," relating that in this case, a player who was shooting poorly got to the point of holding his $1000 custom at arms length and said to it, "One more, and that's it for you, Big Daddy." Struck us all as pretty funny at the time and we all had a good laugh. So I think pool players talk to all kinds of inanimate things.

BTW, I want to apologize to the OP for the hijack. It is most cool you have Willie's signed CB -- it's a great story and it's pretty nice that your wife honors your love of the game.

Lou Figueroa
 
Great story! Great keepsake!

I hear that if you set up a rack of 9 ball and try to break with that cue ball it won't move. No matter how hard you hit it, it won't move.

Then, while you stand there scratching your head looking at it, it jumps off the table and smacks you in the head. :yeah:
 
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