You've done a very nice job of proving that all on your own. Now you're wanting odds? Looking for a graceful way to back out? LMAO. Why does that not come as a surprise? You just made it quite clear what you're all about.
Prove CTE does not work.
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You've done a very nice job of proving that all on your own. Now you're wanting odds? Looking for a graceful way to back out? LMAO. Why does that not come as a surprise? You just made it quite clear what you're all about.
Did I see John asking Lou to learn pro1 after being beat in the one pocket event. I think he did..to me that shows how infected with the system he is . Don't kid yourself ,he enjoys conflict. Lol.
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Have you ever been diagnosed with brain damage?
You're the one claiming to be a genius, while I'm a mere simpleton. Surely, you would be more than willing to offer odds on something as such a lock?
I've made it quite clear that mathematical claims require mathematical evidence. That's something the CTE clique has been dancing around for years. Now, here you come along, adding your voice to the chorus of followers. What have you contributed? Absolutely nothing more than insults. If you're such a brainiac, perhaps you could enlighten the crowd with your mathematical proofs of how CTE is "geometrically tied to the table". Unless you're full of hot air.
Should we also get another match going? After that, I could make posters out of both JB's infamous "flailing around" system and whatever it is that you'll be losing with. After all, I've been playing for less than 10 years, nearly all of that time on Valley tables and I only use a bar cue. You're superior ... prove it.
Just to play devils advocate. How many people have posted video proof that the system works? Don't have all details. I think Stan, Mohrt and Gerry that I know of. How many DVD's have been sold? There may be more threads started about CTE from players who bought the DVD but have no clue how to figure it out. I also think there is Steve and Brandon who are pro's. Until I see them using the system that connects you to multiple banks. Playing the banks instead of safeties. I think it does leave a level of mystery about the system. Someone showed a shot where you would have to play rail first to make the ball. How does the system deal with that? I watched a match with Steve Moore and I have to say. If he is at an advance level with CTE and that's how the system should be used in a match. I would certainly pass. I have never seen a player that looked no unnatural shooting pool. I personally would not want to shoot that way. I think the ZERO-X DVD makes more sense to becoming a better pool player.
You're the one that proposed a wager over an IQ test. I simply called you out on it. Now you're backing out. No surprise. You saved yourself some money although I seriously doubt you could afford to bet much anyway.
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No I asked Lou if he would consider getting with Stan to at least find common ground.
I put up a simple request. James Randi has plenty of video disproving claims.
Why can't any one disprove CTE on video?
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What's the matter, you don't have faith in that big brain of yours? I'm starting to think that you're nothing but fluff. I grew up around people that could piss your worth away without blinking. You really think I care? You're just being a Barton about. As soon as you find out how wrong you are, you'll have nothing but excuses.
Who cares what I have to bet on it anyhow? You'd lose either way. How would the test be administered? You think I'm going to trust somebody that doesn't care if what they say is factual and correct? Get lost. :wave: If you figure out a fool-proof(you'll be exempted) way to take a test, have somebody let me know. Next year's BCA event? You can even put your awesomeness on display there.
Still, the zealots would rather blabber on instead of providing proof to their claims. What a surprise.
Any time you want to take your enormous brain and put out an equation that shows what CTE users(and your "creator") claim, feel free.
Why do you think I didn't? Nothing stops a person from trying. My whole point here is that the war of words is endless. Try to put your words into action on video and let's go from there.
There is a basic presumption of truth in both demonstration and presentation. If someone with no malice and no motive to lie is presenting information along with a physical demonstration then normally we don't immediately accuse them of lying. We take it at face value and dive in to see if we can duplicate the results.
Duplication is what scientists use to verify discoveries. If something is valid then the results should be repeatable in other labs. That's what peer review is.
Here we have a method that has been peer reviewed by hundreds of players, amateurs to pros. There are now dozens of demonstration hours on video showing the steps, breaking them down into parts. Tracing the footwork. As well each challenge problem presented was taken to the table and demonstrated.
Either this is all one big conspiracy or it works as testified to.
My invitation stands. If you have proof that CTE does not work then show us that proof on video.
Were I to say that a running engine does not work then I would be expected to prove that. If the engine maker said it will run at 5000 rpms for 30 hours on one gallon of gas and put up a video of it doing that then I would have to do more than simply claim it doesn't work. I would need to show that I fully understand the mechanics involved and demonstrate why it does not work.
That is all I am asking for.
Because you are asking the same question. You can't prove it works by video.
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That's the whole point. Those who say it does not work should then demonstrate that. Go through the steps and point out where it fails.
People fail to understand why I personally have done so many videos on CTE. The reason is because I wanted to work it out in the table and try to understand why it works. I am not always satisfied with just "it works". I want to get it on the table and break it down.
I will accept instruction and follow directions and get the right results but I also like to experiment and stretch out. I like to know for myself the nuts and bolts whenever I can.
That's why I did the videos. That's why I challenged Stan at his house with every negative I could. That's why I tried as hard as I could to trip him up and find shots that CTE can't handle.
Is it too much to expect others to do the same? Take it to the table and disprove it if you are so sure it doesn't work.
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Sure you can. Assuming that you presume the person demonstrating is telling the truth with no malice.
In that context the presenter is accurately describing the method they are using.
When I watch a video where the Gracies teach a jiu jitsu move i don't automatically assume that they are lying to me or that they just think that their moves work when they really don't.
When you see a video where a chemist mixes two liquids to get a result you don't immediately assume he is not telling you the truth or is unaware of the truth. No you simply follow along and if you care to you can duplicate the demonstration and see the results for yourself. Or you can expose the flaw in the method.
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ok prove this
Prove to all of how a 1/2 tip manual tip pivot is equal to a sweep, for any two people. GO
Prove to all of how a 1/2 tip manual tip pivot is equal to a sweep, for any two people. GO
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There's no point in trying. Even if you explained that chemicals have a repeatable reaction, no matter who is adding the ingredients together, or that a grappling move is a general movement, you still can't win. Next up, being asked to disprove Bigfoot, ghosts, astrology and god. I left Elvis off for obvious reasons.. because people have already failed to prove he's dead, therefor he's alive. :speechless:
I *hypothesize* that's why Stan now calls his system "Real CTE". He did not before. I think that is to distinguish it from the other people who are perhaps using "Fake CTE"?
Prove that it isn't. I can prove that all people perceive the CTE line from within a few mm.
So regardless of their physical size, eye displacement, etc, they start the process from practically the same place. This means that the rest of the process brings them to the same result assuming that they were able to perceive the lines correctly.
I can prove that on video if so inclined. Will that mean anything to you?
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So, how many CTE's are there now ?
http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/aiming.html
I guess HH's system is a fractional system . Not CTE. If we go by Dr. Dave's writing there.