Hmmm...Maybe it will get delivered to Brian today.
Questionable/shady dealings here on az opinions wanted
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Hmmm...Maybe it will get delivered to Brian today.
if it does come back, I'll accept it this time and resend it via FedEx.
or Loomis Armored....
best,
brian kc
If I was Brian I would personally drive the package back to Ron and then they can both open it together. If there is something wrong with the cue an insurance claim can be filed.....but the cue should be ok if it was packaged well. I would like to put an end to this face to face and then bury the hatchet. Who knows, they could even go to the pool hall and play for a few hours and have a couple of drinks together.
This could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
OMG they freakind changed it this morning, now it says it is here in my town!!!!!! :yikes::shocked2:
what kind of numbskulls are they? seriously.
and wtf.
best,
brian kc
Cool Brian. But if any other packages arrive from Ron, call the bomb squad.
When I had this loop rerurn deal happen to me, the woman who had refused delivery went to her PO to try and get the package so she could pay some postage and deliver it normally and her PO told her they COULDN'T get it from their sort hub. Why?
because they had refused delivery.
All they could do is send it to the sort hub that had made the mistake and turned it around in the first place.
One of you guys has to open a case for investigation with the USPS. After I did it the package finally got returned to me, although maybe it was coincidence.
Kevin
because they had refused delivery.
All they could do is send it to the sort hub that had made the mistake and turned it around in the first place.
One of you guys has to open a case for investigation with the USPS. After I did it the package finally got returned to me, although maybe it was coincidence.
Kevin
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bad deal
brian i wasnt taking one last shot at you i was simply stating fact about what was going on. i posted the dates and locations exactly how i saw them on the usps site.
so i guess the lady at my post office was correct it really could take up to 30 days for me to get my merchandise back.
here is a question someone may know the answer to
if the package is being refused who re routes the package back to me? is there a special sticker or tag stating to send it back? post office employees arent exactly go getters.
brian i wasnt taking one last shot at you i was simply stating fact about what was going on. i posted the dates and locations exactly how i saw them on the usps site.
so i guess the lady at my post office was correct it really could take up to 30 days for me to get my merchandise back.
here is a question someone may know the answer to
if the package is being refused who re routes the package back to me? is there a special sticker or tag stating to send it back? post office employees arent exactly go getters.
What they are supposed to do I'm not sure.
Mine, they stuck a piece of tape over the delivery address so all that was showing was my return address and wrote "refused" across the tape. That left the old scan bar assessable, which is why it was getting scanned and turned around and looped. The person that opened my case theorized that perhaps the clerk had not covered or obliterated the scan code (which is maybe procedure) and that's why it was looping. When I got the package I could see that they were right, the scan was intact.
The tracking on Brian's end looks like his hub and his PO might be the same place. Perhaps he can walk in there and get his hands on it. Failing that, one of you really needs to open a case (maybe it has to be the sender I'm not sure) with the USPS in order to get it delivered. I guess we could open a debate for a few weeks about which one of you should open the case but if the real goal is to get the cue the case should get opened.
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Yep, if a deal goes haywire when something is in transit, it's a very bad idea to refuse delivery.
Did I read somewhere you say you two lived approx. 100 miles apart? The least you could do is deliver the cue yourself.
Kelly
Kelly
I would still send him a Wheat, a Sutton or a Dale Perry 1of 1 , USPS heavily and I mean HEAVILY insured. I don't know about a Jensen, however, I would have to think on that real hard.
brian i have never omitted any facts during this whole mess. i shipped the scruggs on may 5 as agreed upon. the fact that it got to your area on may 9 is no ones fault but the post office. i am not looking for sympathy i just want my cue back. the fact that you backed out of our deal is irrelevant to me. as i said before if you were able to contact me before i shipped my cue i would have said no problem no harm no foul. not accepting delivery of my cue as i predicted is turning into a bigger problem. situation was handled badly over and done with i just want my god damn cue back in its original state. when that happens you will never here another word from me about you or this mess. i here by declare this here in a public forum. there will be no negative itrader left because technically we never had a deal. you have my word on that.
your cue is scheduled to be delivered today and I know you saw that on usps tracking so you must have figured you'll take one more shot at me, right?
the fact that I made an honest mistake and apologized profusely to you for it wasn't enough for you.
And to add drama and gain sympathy I see in your dated flow chart above you omitted the fact that the cue took a crazy long time to make it from your PO to mine at the beginning of this saga, likely because of the CT hub having been shut down, that according to my postmaster and parcel clerk.
that's all my fault, right?
after all, I am the Postmaster General.
best,
brian kc
I know how it may look from your vantage point, Ron.
but circumstances can change.
and, for me, they sure did.
best,
brian kc
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Ron;
It's funny in an ironic way that you chose to start your post with that sentence.
Of course, what you're saying is that you feel like you have given an accurate account of how our transaction went. But wait, the irony. The key is going to be the word "omitted". More on that below.
I asked you by pm two or three times now to please ratchet-down with the raking me over the coals. I made a mistake, I apologized for my error plenty, and you just want to keep turning the screw.
I didn't accept your package because you got puffy-chested with me on the phone and I wasn't going to deal with that shit along with a potential paypal dispute.
Realize, I have no control over the USPS and their ineptitude. They told me that by my not accepting your package, it would be turned right around heading back to you the very same day it arrived and you should have it in a couple of days after that. I verified with Jenna, the parcel clerk, and it did go out that day (Fri), presumably heading to you. We now see how that went.
Since seeing it on tracking in freaking New Hampshire, I have been in almost-daily contact with them trying to get answers and to get things back on track. None of it mattered; their system is broken.
I will be there tomorrow morning for a face-to-face.
Now, back to "omitted".
Thankfully, it seems like I still have friends here on az and as it happens, 5 of them have actually owned this particular TS cue. Yes, five.
A couple saw that I was getting bbq'd over this deal and they thought I should know some things about your TS. Things that *you absolutely were aware of but omitted* in your sales thread description.
Maybe you'd like to shed some light, Ron?
To be clear, I only learned about this a couple of days ago, it had nothing to do with my refusal to accept the package. However, with this new info, I'm very happy I did refuse.
Sure makes me wonder, could any of this be why you shipped with the speed of greased lightning? and then became so insistent that "we have a deal"?
I know you want to keep trying to come across as the poor innocent victim who was wronged by the big mean chicken.
You have some big balls, Ron, to keep dragging me through the mud for my oversight, all the while you were the one actually trying to do some moves. Imagine that.
Now let's see how you enjoy having your rep in the mud. And for you, perhaps deservedly so.
best,
brian kc
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This has been a train-wreck almost from the start.
The OP entered into a deal, in good faith, and fulfilled his end of the deal honorably. On the other end, it was a mess, plain and simple. A cue was offered up, that had been previously promised to someone else. This party wants to now undo the deal, because he wants to do the honorable thing, by honoring his previous commitment. Personally, had it been me, since money had already been exchanged, and the cue already sent out, as promised, from the OP...I would have apologize profusely to the person I had previously promised the cue to, and would have seen if there was something I could do to make that right...since a solid deal had already been struck with the OP....it was a done deal, so to speak. Instead, adding insult to injury, delivery of the cue is refused, and to date, the OP's cue has yet to be received back. Having willingly queered the deal, the last thing I would have done is to refuse delivery on the package...actually, had it been me, I would have had the packaged shipped back Express Overnight, to make the bruising to the OP just a bit less severe.
BTW...FYI, as per the USPS, there is NO guarantee on timely delivery of Priority Mail packages, and no refunds are offered on delivery failure within the quoted timeframe. Already been through this with the USPS this year...and it took opening an investigation to get the envelope with $1200 worth of USPS MO's found and to the recipient. Also found out that the USPS will not refund lost MO's for 6 months...even if it's their fault. We are having some very serious issues with the Seattle hub here as well.
The OP entered into a deal, in good faith, and fulfilled his end of the deal honorably. On the other end, it was a mess, plain and simple. A cue was offered up, that had been previously promised to someone else. This party wants to now undo the deal, because he wants to do the honorable thing, by honoring his previous commitment. Personally, had it been me, since money had already been exchanged, and the cue already sent out, as promised, from the OP...I would have apologize profusely to the person I had previously promised the cue to, and would have seen if there was something I could do to make that right...since a solid deal had already been struck with the OP....it was a done deal, so to speak. Instead, adding insult to injury, delivery of the cue is refused, and to date, the OP's cue has yet to be received back. Having willingly queered the deal, the last thing I would have done is to refuse delivery on the package...actually, had it been me, I would have had the packaged shipped back Express Overnight, to make the bruising to the OP just a bit less severe.
BTW...FYI, as per the USPS, there is NO guarantee on timely delivery of Priority Mail packages, and no refunds are offered on delivery failure within the quoted timeframe. Already been through this with the USPS this year...and it took opening an investigation to get the envelope with $1200 worth of USPS MO's found and to the recipient. Also found out that the USPS will not refund lost MO's for 6 months...even if it's their fault. We are having some very serious issues with the Seattle hub here as well.
Ron;
It's funny in an ironic way that you chose to start your post with that sentence.
Of course, what you're saying is that you feel like you have given an accurate account of how our transaction went. But wait, the irony. The key is going to be the word "omitted". More on that below.
I asked you by pm two or three times now to please ratchet-down with the raking me over the coals. I made a mistake, I apologized for my error plenty, and you just want to keep turning the screw.
I didn't accept your package because you got puffy-chested with me on the phone and I wasn't going to deal with that shit along with a potential paypal dispute.
Realize, I have no control over the USPS and their ineptitude. They told me that by my not accepting your package, it would be turned right around heading back to you the very same day it arrived and you should have it in a couple of days after that. I verified with Jenna, the parcel clerk, and it did go out that day (Fri), presumably heading to you. We now see how that went.
Since seeing it on tracking in freaking New Hampshire, I have been in almost-daily contact with them trying to get answers and to get things back on track. None of it mattered; their system is broken.
I will be there tomorrow morning for a face-to-face.
Now, back to "omitted".
Thankfully, it seems like I still have friends here on az and as it happens, 5 of them have actually owned this particular TS cue. Yes, five.
A couple saw that I was getting bbq'd over this deal and they thought I should know some things about your TS. Things that *you absolutely were aware of but omitted* in your sales thread description.
Maybe you'd like to shed some light, Ron?
To be clear, I only learned about this a couple of days ago, it had nothing to do with my refusal to accept the package. However, with this new info, I'm very happy I didn't.
Sure makes me wonder, could any of this be why you shipped with the speed of greased lightning? and then became so insistent that "we have a deal"?
I know you want to keep trying to come across as the poor innocent victim who was wronged by the big mean chicken.
You have some big balls, Ron, to keep dragging me through the mud for my oversight, all the while you were the one actually trying to do some moves. Imagine that.
Now let's see how you enjoy having your rep in the mud. And for you, perhaps deservedly so.
best,
brian kc
While this may well be an interesting twist in the saga...it still does not negate the initial handling of this deal, as the 'issue' was still an unknown element.