The Red Circle ball belongs to no set. Not the Premier or any other. It is a specialty ball from Aramith.
I won't shoot with it. Too light. Reacts terribly.
I won't shoot with it. Too light. Reacts terribly.
Get Rid of that Measle Ball!
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A little correction here. The red dot and measles ball are not the same ball. The red dot is made with the Premier resin and comes with the Premier set. There are two balls with the same Super Aramith Pro resin as the Measles ball. One is the Red Logo ball that comes with the Aramith Super Pro set in traditional colors. The other is the Blue Circle ball that comes with the Brunswick Centennials. All three of these ball sets (Super Pro, Super Pro Cup TV balls, and Centennials), including the cue balls, are made with the same resin.
The red circle ball does not come with the Premier set (that is the red dot ball). The Red Circle ball is made with the Super Aramith resin (not Super Aramith PRO resin). The red circle ball does not come with any ball set made by Aramith.
I suggest buying all cue balls in common use. If you know a venue is using a certain cue ball, get that one out and play with it. If a bar box is in use that uses a steel core ball, by one and use it on your drop pocket.
Don't expect there will ever be a standardized cue ball. Not going to happen. Go with the flow. I would think that whatever area you are in, chances are you will only see 3 or 4 different kinds of cue balls in general use. Shouldnt break the bank too bad by getting one of each. If you are good enough to tell the differences, then you should be practicing with all of them.
Don't expect there will ever be a standardized cue ball. Not going to happen. Go with the flow. I would think that whatever area you are in, chances are you will only see 3 or 4 different kinds of cue balls in general use. Shouldnt break the bank too bad by getting one of each. If you are good enough to tell the differences, then you should be practicing with all of them.
pro touurneys have been using these for years now, I've not heard nor read about any pros complaining
they make a snooker version and i really wish the snooker tour started using em
they make a snooker version and i really wish the snooker tour started using em
Exactly. I just weighed the measle ball, and it is the same weight as the object balls (Brunswick Centenials).. imagine that... IDENTICAL
It's amazing, folks can't shoot because they brought the wrong cue, the cloth was too fast, it was too slow, the rails were dead, cue ball is too big, it's too small, it uses 5% less plastic, the lighting sucked, the waitress was too cute, I got fired from my job, my wife left me, I've never seen a sport with so many excuses why folks lose so much. Amazing actually.
What I rarely hear is " I don't practice enough, that's why I still suck"
I have both a red circle and a measles. I weighed all of the balls in my super aramith pro set and chose the cue ball that was closest to the average weight. It was the measles and is the one I always play with.
That being said I use masters chalk only. I will go weeks before I vacuum my table too. No higher percentage of skids in my opinion.
By the way if you hit the balls at the right speed skids can be mostly eliminated from happening.
That being said I use masters chalk only. I will go weeks before I vacuum my table too. No higher percentage of skids in my opinion.
By the way if you hit the balls at the right speed skids can be mostly eliminated from happening.
I've heard many of them complain at the super billiards expo.. especially of course Earl the pearl lol
Exactly. I just weighed the measle ball, and it is the same weight as the object balls (Brunswick Centenials).. imagine that... IDENTICAL
It's amazing, folks can't shoot because they brought the wrong cue, the cloth was too fast, it was too slow, the rails were dead, cue ball is too big, it's too small, it uses 5% less plastic, the lighting sucked, the waitress was too cute, I got fired from my job, my wife left me, I've never seen a sport with so many excuses why folks lose so much. Amazing actually.
What I rarely hear is " I don't practice enough, that's why I still suck"
We know they weigh the same and are the same size..something about them play different. I've been playing virtually every day for 25 years ..my senses don't lie. lol Can I play with it ? SURE... I don't mind playing with it. but it takes a rack or two to adjust to the change.
Out at the acs in Vegas you have to play with the valley cue ball.. It played different but it didn't stop me from running racks. A good player should be able to adjust and forget all about it with a few racks.
I guess I'm not good enough to tell the difference between a true aramith six dot, and a red logo aramith. And i suspect 80 percent of people here wont either. Just dont like the red spots? They are made with the same resin. The six dots I've played all played true. I dont understand it.
While we are on the subject, what does everyone think about the green logo tournament magnetic ball compaired to a steel core bar box ball? Huge improvement over the steel core I think.
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It is really simple, I know personally a handful of pros who hate it. This crap was a way to show spin to the viewers on ESPN for trick shots and whatever. We should be playing with a plain white cue ball that does not collect chalk plain and simple. If they can have a cue ball that weighs the same, no spots on it and does not collect chalk that would be ideal. In reality I do not have to play with it as I do not play in pro events, I gamble and play local bullshit so it is all good. I just know the pros did not think up this training ball that attracts chalk. Try it yourself and shoot some shots with red circle and measle, see which attracts more chalk.
The Red Circle is garbage. Use the red logo and choose not to use a measle ball.
I just happened to order a new ball the other day since one of my friends who isn't a regular pool player found the measles ball distracting (as I did for about the first 3 minutes that I played with it when I got it). Then I happened to see this thread and wondered if I should be concerned over differences in play...
So I started doing a test of taking the same shot over and over again, chalking and switching CB's each shot. After about 5 minutes of that, it became clear that chalk marks were getting erased in the process because neither ball was accumulating a lot of marks even though after the first few shots I could see that chalk was sticking...
So then I decided to simplify- take 5 shots on each ball, straight left English and straight into a rail. You can see the results for yourself. Don't ask me what chalk or what tip, if you do, you're crazier than I am for even testing this ridiculous proposition. The level at which I struck the CB's was comfortably below the level of the point of the rail and with straight left spin, there was no chance for the felt to erase any marks.
5 shots on each, 5 marks each- on average, the same amount of chalk on each but my gas spectrophotometer is broken so I couldn't vaporize the chalk for precise measurements for you, OP. Sorry. But seriously- there is your photographic evidence that the same ball- one with measles, one without, hold the same amount of chalk. If you have a non-measles ball that doesn't hold the chalk like that then it is probably an inferior level aramith like "ideologist" mentioned. And fell free to use that ball, nothing wrong with it. Just be sure to note that there are non-measles balls that are of the EXACT SAME composition as the measles ball, and that composition is used in tournaments the world over before you knock the composition of the measles ball. I don't care either way other than prolonging my felt life. Gimme a bar ball and I'll still be able to play...
As soon as I can find the wife's little food scale, I will weigh the balls and report. Clearly they are different colors. I assumed they would be of the same material and according to descriptions, they should be. The bottom line is that both balls seem to play the same. According to what I read about aramith pro series when I first bought balls, their formula "burns" the felt less than their lower level formulas. The red circle is $1 less and not described as "as used in tournaments all over the county....," as both the measles ball and the SAPCB are so I assume that the red dot it is of a lesser quality to some degree- at least for burning the felt, if we are to believe the Aramith description- and I see no reason not to. I see that "ideologist" above says that the circle ball is garbage and to use the red logo ball... it didn't make the pic but the ball on the left is the red logo ball.
http://www.ozonebilliards.com/suarprocueba.html- here you can see the Aramith Pro CB that I bought and comparison to the red dot and the measles ball. I bought mine at Nielsen's, though.
So, OP- should I now worry that I got a counterfeit Aramith ball since it is clearly more yellow than the other ball? lol.
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They whiten up over time. Put it in the sun to accelerate the effect.
I have seen measle balls that have a yellow ting and i have seen some that are white.
I think the measle ball is great and i have no problem with getting spin on the ball.
I does attract a fair amout of chalk, I think that is due to the carom finish.
But it does not really matter, as it is easy to clean the ball.
I like that most places uses the measle ball, it`s sort of become an industry standard.
I think the measle ball is great and i have no problem with getting spin on the ball.
I does attract a fair amout of chalk, I think that is due to the carom finish.
But it does not really matter, as it is easy to clean the ball.
I like that most places uses the measle ball, it`s sort of become an industry standard.
"measle" polka dotted themes went out with "hula hoops".
I believe "polka dots" went out in the 70s.....the "Measle Ball" is definitely not stylish by any stretch of the imagination.... polka dotted themes went out with "hula hoops".
I believe "polka dots" went out in the 70s.....the "Measle Ball" is definitely not stylish by any stretch of the imagination.... polka dotted themes went out with "hula hoops".
I believe "polka dots" went out in the 70s.....the "Measle Ball" is definitely not stylish by any stretch of the imagination.... polka dotted themes went out with "hula hoops".
driving a balls around with a wooden stick went out about 30-50 years ago; I mean, dude, there is nothing digital about it. It's archane. I can't believe how much you people argue about things so irrelevant to the game.
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3 cushion? You mean the game that is played with 3 balls that are *larger* than pool balls?
I agree the measle ball has its quirks. Also, the red circle ball has its quirks. It bounces off the object balls and plays too light. Generally, the ball that goes with a ball set plays the best with that set. Blue circle with centennials and super aramith pro with that set. The red circle doesn't go with any set...it is not the same composition as other ball sets. I don't dislike it, it just doesn't play 100% right.
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I've only heard it was the same as the red *logo* ball (the super aramith pro cue ball). I've never heard it was the same as the red cirlce ball. Nothing is the same as the red circle ball. And yes, the measle ball will feel quite different than the red circle ball, but very similar to the red logo ball.
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james chong
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measle ball suck, sloe, clumsy